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So speaking of HRs ...

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2007 07:54 AM

ESPN is doing some deal where they attempt to pick-out each team's most important HRs throughout their history, similar to the "Web-Gem" thing they did a year or so ago.
They're choosing three per team and appear to be doing one team per day -- I have no idea when they'll get around to the Mets.

Anyway, I never really thought about this before, so let's get some nominations.

DocTee
Aug 09 2007 07:57 AM

Grand Slam Single

Todd Pratt

Carter's two on Opening Day

sharpie
Aug 09 2007 07:59 AM

Wonder what the three most important Devil Ray homers could be.

Edgy DC
Aug 09 2007 08:02 AM

Darryl hits the clock in 1985.

HoJo sinks the Cards in 1986.

Piazza in the first game after the attack.

Al Weis in 1969.

metirish
Aug 09 2007 08:03 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 09 2007 08:03 AM

I saw this...#3 was Piazza post 9/11

.................# 2 Pratt

..................#1 Knight's home run of Calvin Schiraldi leading off the seventh to give the Mets the lead in game seven.


They did the mets first,I think it was Sunday night.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 09 2007 08:03 AM

Todd Pratt
Benny Agbayani
Lenny Dykstra

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2007 08:06 AM

]They did the mets first,I think it was Sunday night



Oops.

Centerfield
Aug 09 2007 08:08 AM

Ray Knight
Lenny Dykstra
Mike Piazza post 9/11

Honorable Mentions:
Todd Pratt
Benny Agbayani

Edgy DC
Aug 09 2007 08:09 AM

sharpie wrote:
Wonder what the three most important Devil Ray homers could be.


Wade Boggs' 3000th hit, I guess, would be one.

Another would be a tie among all homers hit against the Yankees.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 09 2007 08:14 AM

The three for the Yankees should include Chris Chambliss and Bucky Dent.

The Red Sox have to have Carlton Fisk. (And maybe that grand slam by Johnny Damon in Game 7 against the Yankees in 2004?)

It's hard for me to think of three homers for any one team (other than the Mets)

There are some homers that obviously have to be included in their team's lists: Bill Mazeroski, Joe Carter, Kirk Gibson, Bobby Thomson...

metirish
Aug 09 2007 08:17 AM

Aaron F Boone.

Edgy DC
Aug 09 2007 08:17 AM

Would the San Francisco Giants include the New York Giants?

I got Gibson and Scoscia, both in 1988, for the Dodgers.

sharpie
Aug 09 2007 08:20 AM

Kirby Puckett's World Series home run to win a 1-0 game.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 09 2007 08:25 AM

Ugh. Scoscia. I was at that stinking game. I must have blocked it out.

Ugh. Aaron Boone. I wonder, though, if that would make the Yankees list. Boone, Dent, Chambliss would be a worthy three, but I'd bet that a list complied by ESPN would want to include Babe Ruth's "called shot."

soupcan
Aug 09 2007 08:28 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 09 2007 08:29 AM

I like Dykstra's at #1 but I guess Pratt's was more significant.

So I'll go with Pratt at #1, Dykstra at #2 and Knight at #3

Edgy DC
Aug 09 2007 08:28 AM

Probably should. Might include Maris' 1961 record-breaker and Reggie Jackson's three (somehow shoehorning them into one moment) in 1977.

I like to think of the biggest homer in Yankees history as being hit by guys like Mazerosiki, against them.

I'm pretty sure Joe Carter is on the Blue Jays list.

metirish
Aug 09 2007 08:29 AM

Fair to say that for the Blue Jays Joe Carter will be # 1

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2007 08:29 AM

I guess I would have gone with Knight - tie-breaking (and ultimately game-winning) HRs in the 7th inning of Game 7 WS are tough to argue against

Pratt - a walk-off post-season series winner

and finally I'll go with Alou's last night (he says as he mocks those whose memories extend back only to the latest Justin Timberlake release) ....
actually Lenny's Game 3 winner against Houston in '86



Hard to leave out the emotional lift of Piazza 9/21 8th inning game winner or Ventura's Grand-Slam single in the rain ending a 5-1/2 hour lose of go home marathon, but ultimately the '01 division chase fell short and the Mets were eliminated the day after the GS-single.

Honorable mention also to Clendenon's 2R HR in Game 5 of the '69 WS

Frayed Knot
Aug 09 2007 08:33 AM

They did the Braves last night, which of course had Aaron's 715 as #1

Also Justice's HR that was the only run in their 1-0 Game 6 WS winner in '95 (2 hit shutout by Glavine)
And an Eddie Mathews walk-off winner (game 4 I think) in the '57 WS

Willets Point
Aug 09 2007 08:48 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Ugh. Scoscia. I was at that stinking game. I must have blocked it out.

Ugh. Aaron Boone. I wonder, though, if that would make the Yankees list. Boone, Dent, Chambliss would be a worthy three, but I'd bet that a list complied by ESPN would want to include Babe Ruth's "called shot."


You're forgetting Jeterlove. They'll want to have Jeter hits a "home run" to Jeffery Maier, Jeter leads off a World Series game vs. the Mets with a home run, Jeter hits the first MLB home run ever hit in November...They'll probably through in some bonus Jeter home runs as well.

G-Fafif
Aug 09 2007 10:17 PM

Rationally for "importance" purposes (though I like them, too)...

Pratt Game 4 NLDS
Dykstra Game 3 NLCS
Piazza to cap off the 10-run inning

Personally (liking these every bit as much as those above even if no one outside of Mets land knows about them)...

Carl Everett's grand slam (0-6 to 6-6 in the ninth, 1997)
Steve Henderson against the Giants (2-6 to 7-6 in the ninth, 1980)
Marlon Anderson's inside-the-parker (pinch-hit, ninth inning, tied game, off K-Rod, 2005)

Nymr83
Aug 09 2007 11:27 PM

speaking of homeruns, anyone remember Rick Ankiel? the former phenom pitcher was leading AAA with 32 homers and 89 RBIs... he's been called up and homered tonight!

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 10 2007 05:51 AM

I'll stick with my three: Agbayani, Dykstra, and Pratt. All were walkoff homers in post-season games at a pivotal point in their respective series.

Gwreck
Aug 10 2007 05:54 AM

Not yet mentioned: I'd give an honorable mention to Piazza's HR off Wagner in '98.

Valadius
Aug 10 2007 02:59 PM

My favorite home run that didn't really mean too much: Benny Agbayani's grand slam in Japan. They gave him a freaking samurai helmet. How awesome is that?

Speaking of Benny Agbayani, Chiba Lotte Marines fans have created a chant for him while he's up at bat:



[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=zdkWuTNvpBA]Chiba Fans Chant for Benny[/url]

Edgy DC
Aug 10 2007 03:01 PM

We absolutely bow before the Japanese when it comes to fandom.

metsmarathon
Aug 10 2007 03:31 PM

they clearly need to switch to decaf. at least its got nothing apparent to do with hello kitty...

Nymr83
Aug 10 2007 04:05 PM

a benny agbayani chant? japanese fans rock.

Frayed Knot
Aug 26 2007 07:45 PM

BB2N concluded their per-team HR list with a Top-ten most important HRs of all time.

10 - Bucky Bleeping Dent; 1 game playoff 1978

9 - Aaron Bleeping Boone, Game 7 extra innings 2003 ALCS

8 - Kirby Puckett, Game 6 Walk-off 1991

7 - Joe Carter, World Series winner 1993

6 - Barry Bonds #756

5 - Bobby Thomson, NL playoff 1951

4 - Kirk Gibson, Game 1 WS winner 1988

3 - Hank Aaron # 715

2 - Roger Maris #61, 1961

1 - Bill Mazeroski, Game 7 9th inning World Series winner 1961



btw, there have been an estimated 240,000 HRs hit in MLB history. I assume that's a number that starts in 1901

Elster88
Aug 27 2007 04:29 AM

]1 - Bill Mazeroski, Game 7 9th inning World Series winner 1961


It's gonna be hard to top that one. Too bad Cornelius didn't hit one out last year. Or Beltran or Reyes.

Elster88
Aug 27 2007 04:31 AM

On the other hand, maybe not. As a youth I personally hit about a thousand game winners in Game 7 of the World Series down 3 with 2 out and the bases loaded in my backyard.

Edgy DC
Aug 27 2007 05:46 AM

As much as they want to eke importance from Bonds' homer, they're forcing it in there, aren't they?

Willets Point
Aug 27 2007 08:07 AM

Ditto for Maris #61 which is included but not Mcgwire #62 or even Ruth #60.

seawolf17
Aug 27 2007 08:13 AM

Ruth's 60th wasn't anything... do you know anything about it? I don't. Maris you remember, because he overtook a legendary figure and an unbreakable record.

The tough part about Bonds' HR is that there's no distance from it to really see where it fits. It's obviously enormously historic, but also wildly anticlimactic... so was it "important"? Only time is going to tell that. You could make a case that McGwire's 62nd was more important than Bonds' 756th.

Edgy DC
Aug 27 2007 08:15 AM

I think Maris's homer was special and dramatic. Ruth was a myth, and breaking his record in the 1961 --- while in part a product of circumstance and an extended season --- is Jack outfixing the giant, Perseus slaying the Gorgon, Alladin stealing the lamp, all that shit.

It's easy enough to look at the advantage of the extra eight games and compare that to McGwire's and Bonds's pharmaceutical advantage, but the reason folks were against Maris was that they didn't want a Myth to die. The reason they were against Bonds was that they didn't want a moral line further blurred. Both were childish wishes, but I think distinct from each other also.

Nymr83
Sep 06 2007 04:43 PM

Rick Ankiel with 2 more homers a double and 7 RBI tonight, what a story this guy has been!

Willets Point
Sep 07 2007 08:15 AM

Nymr83 wrote:
Rick Ankiel with 2 more homers a double and 7 RBI tonight, what a story this guy has been!


But if the Cardinals get in the playoffs he'll probably start swinging wildly at pitches way out of the strike zone.

DocTee
Sep 07 2007 09:08 AM

WP with the post of the week-- funny stuff.