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Edgy DC
Aug 15 2007 02:23 PM

Calling out Mets who don't bust it out of the box.

Recent infranctions

  • Carlos Delgado gets himself a 368-foot single when his deep drive hits off the top of the fence when he's jogging and watching.

  • Luis Castillo getting tagged out in the ninth by the catcher on a tip that he expected to go foul.

  • Reyes doing the same thing a month and a half back.
  • Julio Franco signing his own release papers by not busting it out on a misplayed grounder that ended the game when he still couldn't beat it out after the bobble.
Include all such indiscretions here, whether they cost the team or not. I'm reduced to using shame as a weapon. It's a virtual kangaroo court.

soupcan
Aug 15 2007 02:50 PM
Re: RUN!

Edgy DC wrote:

  • Luis Castillo getting tagged out in the ninth by the catcher on a tip that he expected to go foul.


  • Randolph to be on WFAN at 5:00. Francesa indicated he will ask him about this play.

    I will report back.

    Frayed Knot
    Aug 15 2007 02:53 PM

    With those ones in front of the plate, it's almost as if the hitter knows he's going to be out anyway so he decides that maybe if he pretends it's foul maybe the ump will call it that way.






    * And on this post I become the 'Dude' who would never not run out a ball

    soupcan
    Aug 15 2007 03:16 PM

    Willie says:

    Castillo didn't even see the ball. Not a matter of un-hustle. Willie had no problem with it.

    Edgy DC
    Aug 15 2007 05:23 PM

    Frayed Knot wrote:
    With those ones in front of the plate, it's almost as if the hitter knows he's going to be out anyway so he decides that maybe if he pretends it's foul maybe the ump will call it that way.


    There's certainly an argument for that sort of gamesmanship. By running, you're encouraging the ump to call it fair, instead of sticking in the box and making an implicit argument that it's foul.

    That's just not the sort of argument I expect the right-way-to-play run-hard-or-sit Wilie to accept, though he's apparently accepting its like from Castillo.

    Nymr83
    Aug 15 2007 06:21 PM

    i'm willing to accept that argument if theres an argument to be made that its foul and you are definitely out if you run.

    Johnny Dickshot
    Aug 15 2007 09:01 PM

    Beltran sat there admiring his shot into the gap tonight, which had zero chance of being a HR, and nearly got thrown out at 2nd.

    Edgy DC
    Aug 16 2007 05:44 AM

    I think they need a get-out-of-the-box-like-you-mean-it exercise, where a coach chases them to first shooting a gun in the air.

    Nymr83
    Aug 16 2007 11:10 AM

    Edgy DC wrote:
    I think they need a get-out-of-the-box-like-you-mean-it exercise, where a coach chases them to first shooting a gun in the air.


    or swinging a bat at them jose offerman style.

    Edgy DC
    Sep 04 2007 07:56 AM

    Twice this week, Luis Castillo has laid down a nice bunt down the first base line ,only to lose a step turning his head to see where the ball was.

    Luis, you're fast. If the ball is behind you, there'll be no tag play on you. If it goes foul, the ump will yell it loud enough. And if you waste a few steps streaking down the line on a ball that was going foul, so be it. Chalk it off as exercise.

    RUN!

    metirish
    Sep 04 2007 08:00 AM

    I think his knee is barking at him,he certainly seemed to be feeling it on a double yesterday.

    Edgy DC
    Sep 04 2007 08:04 AM

    Truely. Triple written all over that ball. He probably should have been yanked in the late innings.

    Gwreck
    Sep 04 2007 08:30 AM

    Problem is that they already burned Gotay as PH. I guess you could've put Anderson in at second.

    We could use some infield reserves called up. I would've liked to see Reyes or Wright pulled out of the game yesterday but there was nobody to play their positions...

    Edgy DC
    Sep 04 2007 08:35 AM

    Niner is our thirdbaseman if Wright goes down, and I think we need to get him some PT there.

    Gotay's glove and Andy Handy's bat leave us with no adequate shortstop backup. Reyes has played 99.01748% of the innings there this year.

    We look good for outfield depth right now, but, obviously, an injury to Reyes or Wright would be catastrophic.

    Nymr83
    Sep 04 2007 10:11 AM

    with extended rosters theres really no excuse for not having a backup at SS, where is Anderson Hernandez?

    Edgy DC
    Sep 04 2007 10:30 AM

    You, with the "no excuse."

    The Zephyrs' season ended yesterday, and tomorrow he's joining them for their best of five series for the Pacific Coast League's American Conference Championship against Nashville. If they prosper, it'll be on to the PCL Championship.

    Edgy DC
    Sep 11 2007 07:20 PM

    Willie, how about telling Reyes that not Timo Perez not running on a seeming homerun cost the Mets a playoff game to your team?

    Rickey, how about telling Reyes that not running on a seeming home run ended your Mets career that same season?

    Zvon
    Sep 11 2007 08:16 PM

    ="Edgy DC"]Willie, how about telling Reyes that not Timo Perez not running on a seeming homerun cost the Mets a playoff game to your team?

    Rickey, how about telling Reyes that not running on a seeming home run ended your Mets career that same season?


    Maybe somebody should show him a picture,

    ...it lasts longer.


    Edgy DC
    Sep 29 2007 08:04 PM

    The grabby Mets have been feeling me all day.



    Reyes Has Foes, and Mets, Feeling Edgy
    By JACK CURRY
    Published: September 30, 2007


    José Reyes is a pest and an annoyance for the Mets, and, occasionally, he is a pest and an annoyance to the Mets. He plays superbly, but then he does something silly. He helps the Mets win, but then he also makes them cringe. The Mets adore Reyes when he irks others and hate it when he irks them.

    As John Maine was overpowering the Florida Marlins yesterday and looking like a pitcher who could throw the first no-hitter in franchise history, Reyes managed to grab a few slivers of attention. Maine was the action hero when the Mets rumbled to a crucial 13-0 victory, but Reyes, for better or worse, swiped some scenes.

    He almost got into a fight with Florida’s Miguel Olivo, he coolly played a grounder that ricocheted off David Wright to preserve the no-hitter and, once again, he failed to run on a ball he hit. It was a strangely fulfilling day for the Mets, and, not surprisingly, the hyperactive Reyes did a cannonball into the middle of it. That included Reyes’s involvement in a near brawl.

    “We don’t want to fight with nobody because this is a baseball game, but if it happens, we have to take it like a man,” Reyes said.

    Those were tough words from Reyes, maybe too tough. The Mets needed Reyes yesterday and they definitely need him today as they try to stop the Marlins to snare a division title or at least force a playoff game against the Philadelphia Phillies tomorrow. The Marlins, who will be on vacation by tomorrow, can survive without Olivo.

    Still, as Reyes was standing on third base in the fifth, he was talking with Olivo, the Marlins’ catcher, who was on the mound for a pitching change. After Harvey Garcia threw behind Luis Castillo, Reyes said Olivo promised to hit Reyes with a ball if Reyes made it to third.

    “I think he’s kidding with me because he’s a good friend of mine,” Reyes said.

    At one point, Reyes waved his hand at Olivo. Olivo rushed toward Reyes, but Sandy Alomar, the Mets’ 63-year-old third-base coach, stood in front of Reyes and blocked the catcher. Olivo tried to punch Reyes but missed. Alomar said he thought the players were joking until he saw Olivo coming at him.

    “All the fun went off,” Alomar said.

    Reyes and Olivo were born in the Dominican Republic and have played winter ball there at the same time. But the players, who have hugged before games, told drastically different stories about their tussle as each called the other the instigator.

    “He told me, ‘You and me fight,’ and I said, ‘O.K., let’s go,’” Olivo said. “I don’t know why he said that.”

    Reyes said Olivo “is crazy sometimes” and challenged him.

    “I can’t say no,” Reyes said. “I’m not scared. We’re both men. I’m not scared at all.”

    Actually, Lastings Milledge might have triggered the skirmish by standing at the plate and admiring his second home run of the game. While the Marlins denied throwing at Castillo, Reyes said they might have reacted to Milledge’s actions to open the fifth. Milledge acknowledged that might have been true, but he felt the lifeless Mets needed to show some spunk.

    “Today, I came out with a chip on my shoulder and I really wanted to take it to these guys,” Milledge said. “These guys have been coming out here and they really took advantage of us yesterday. I didn’t like it at all.”

    On a day when the Mets’ season could have ended, both Reyes and Milledge failed base running 101, too. Reyes, who was benched this season after not running out a grounder, hit a chopper off the plate in the third. He took a few strides toward first and then stopped. He was easily thrown out.

    Three innings later, Milledge hit a ball that appeared to glance off his foot before squirting up the first-base line. Milledge did not immediately dash to first, but he reached second base on two Marlins errors. Reyes later popped up to end the inning while Milledge ventured only a few feet from the bag, apparently unaware there were two outs.

    Milledge said the ball he hit never struck his foot. He and Reyes both said they should have run hard.

    “It’s my fault,” Reyes said. “I have to run on that ball.”

    Robert Andino hammered a liner off Wright’s knee to open the seventh, a ball that was hit a lot harder than the infield single that spoiled Maine’s no-hit bid. But Andino’s ball caromed from Wright to Reyes, who glided to his right to snatch it and get the out at first.

    So, on one chaotic day, the Mets saw the slick Reyes, the immature Reyes and the fighting Reyes. With one game left in regular season, the Mets want to be able to see the talented Reyes playing in October. And the Mets are optimistic. The message on the bulletin board yesterday told players to have luggage packed for a one-day trip to Philadelphia.

    Elster88
    Sep 30 2007 08:28 PM

    Reyes Has Foes, and Mets Feeling Edgy

    Looks funnier when you remove one comma.

    seawolf17
    Oct 01 2007 08:26 AM

    Elster88 wrote:
    Reyes Has Foes, and Mets Feeling Edgy

    Looks funnier when you remove one comma.

    Or even funnier when you remove both commas, because then he has the whole team AND all their foes in on the action.

    Reyes Has Foes and Mets Feeling Edgy

    Edgy DC
    Oct 01 2007 09:24 AM

    Fucking Reyes has made my life a nightmare.