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David Wright- MVP?
Nymr83 Sep 03 2007 07:22 PM |
League Leaders 2007 (from Espn.com)
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 03 2007 07:27 PM |
Just stay the hell away from Luis F. Vizcaino.
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Iubitul Sep 03 2007 07:35 PM |
If he gives us 4 more weeks of this - hell yeah.
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metsguyinmichigan Sep 03 2007 07:39 PM |
Absolutely!
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seawolf17 Sep 03 2007 07:45 PM |
Fielder's a good bet, I'd think.
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TransMonk Sep 03 2007 07:51 PM |
Look at NL win shares and runs created. Those numbers look good for David as well.
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Valadius Sep 03 2007 07:55 PM |
If we go on a big win streak and he puts up big numbers through the month, he has a shot. Right now, he's in the mix, certainly, but I don't think he's established himself as #1.
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DocTee Sep 03 2007 07:59 PM |
I imagine lots of voters would split the Mets between Wright and Reyes, with Beltran getting some consideration, too.
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Nymr83 Sep 03 2007 08:04 PM |
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Brandon Webb is 16-5 with 2 ERA and that 40 inning scoreless streak... but considering how Pedro was robbed once its hard to see a pitcher winning it
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Edgy DC Sep 03 2007 08:25 PM |
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I'm sure the voters will care more about his steals. I think we should keep this quiet and let Wright worry about the business at hand.
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Zvon Sep 03 2007 08:53 PM |
Fielder is def in this drivers seat.
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Frayed Knot Sep 03 2007 09:16 PM |
He's def put himself into the mix.
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 03 2007 09:18 PM |
Quietest rise to being the most complete hitter in the league I can remember.
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Frayed Knot Sep 03 2007 09:27 PM |
I may have to change my vote from the 'Reyes or Wright - one or the other' thread that we had a while back.
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metirish Sep 03 2007 09:43 PM |
I'm on record as saying he will not win,hope I am proved wrong of course.
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attgig Sep 04 2007 03:31 AM |
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Question is, how important is it that the MVP's team makes the playoffs? Ryan Howard obviously doesn't care... but some sportswriters might. bunch of those guys are question marks. utley's injury can hurt. milwakee's 1/2 half bust might leave people down on fielder. rollins for some reason has been quietly productive since saying they're the team to beat. perhaps too quiet for sportswriters. pujols is pujols, and might win it... i think a met has a good as a chance as any other guy in that list. and wright has been the best met.
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Valadius Sep 04 2007 08:26 AM |
If, heaven forbid, the Cardinals make the playoffs, Pujols could end up getting it. However, if David hits 4 more homers, keeps his batting average above .315, winds up with over 100 RBI and 100 runs scored, it looks like it's between him, Prince Fielder, and Matt Holliday. It all depends on which player and which team has the best September. If the Brewers don't make the playoffs, it seriously weighs against Fielder. Some voters might be put off by Holliday's Coors Field-inflated numbers. That leaves it up to Wright to separate himself from his teammates. If that happens, he has a fantastic shot at it.
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DocTee Sep 04 2007 08:32 AM |
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Andre Dawson won MVP for the last place Cubs. As Branch Rickey would say, "we can finish last without you, too".
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Willets Point Sep 04 2007 09:20 AM |
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To perfectly honest, if the voters are having a really tough time picking between Wright, Reyes, and Beltran, I think I like that even better than if any one of them gets the MVP.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2007 09:26 AM |
It's nice that Beltran has played himself into the conversation.
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sharpie Sep 04 2007 09:38 AM |
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Yabbut that year there weren't other candidates having the year Dawson had. Second division players have a chance only if there are no standouts among the top clubs, not the case this year.
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attgig Sep 04 2007 11:08 AM |
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3002888
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Valadius Sep 04 2007 12:15 PM |
Here's to hoping we cruise through September with Wright keying the offense, the Phillies go into a tailspin, Utley goes into a month-long slump, and Utley, Rollins, and Howard split the Phillies vote. Then I think David Wright wins the MVP. But September is usually the most important month for the MVP and other end-of-year awards (see Piazza, Mike) and players usually win or lose the award during the final month.
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HahnSolo Sep 04 2007 12:32 PM |
Much like Reyes seemed overlooked in last year's MVP vote, I think Rollins will be overlooked this year. He should be right up there in the discussion, stupid offseason comments or not.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2007 12:38 PM |
An MVP for David Wright would be great, but I'd prefer to see any one of 25 guys on the Mets win the World Series MVP award this year.
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Vic Sage Sep 11 2007 10:36 AM |
as of 9/11/07 --
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attgig Sep 11 2007 11:18 AM |
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[url=http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=winshares&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=total&direction=DESC&season_filter%5B%5D=2007&league_filter%5B%5D=NL&pos_filter%5B%5D=All&Submit=Submit] hard ball times[/url]
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Valadius Sep 11 2007 11:32 AM |
Win Shares through 9/8/07:
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Vic Sage Sep 11 2007 12:54 PM |
and Wright is 2nd to H.Ramirez in VORP
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Elster88 Sep 11 2007 05:02 PM |
Keef says 40 times reaching base in his past 80 plate appearances.
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Elster88 Sep 11 2007 05:03 PM |
I fear that the majority of the old fogeys (fogies?) who vote for MVP don't appreciate win shares and VORP.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2007 05:12 PM |
Agreed. On the other hand, those same fogies probably put credentials in other things David Wright has going for him. Number-three hitter on a playoff team-type stuff.
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Elster88 Sep 11 2007 05:17 PM |
Philosophically, do you have a problem with the right guy winning for the wrong reasons?
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2007 06:14 PM |
I guess I prefer that to the wrong guy winning for the wrong reasons --- all coming out in the philosophical wash, as it were.
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Nymr83 Sep 11 2007 06:46 PM |
I'm happy if the (W)right guy wins.
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Valadius Sep 13 2007 01:18 PM |
Believe it or not, Steve Phillips is actually picking David Wright to win the NL MVP.
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seawolf17 Sep 13 2007 01:20 PM |
But he's probably still saying the Mets will miss the playoffs.
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Edgy DC Sep 13 2007 01:29 PM |
Why be surprised? Phillips drafted the guy.
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Iubitul Sep 13 2007 01:35 PM |
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Edgy DC Sep 13 2007 01:56 PM |
I'm not trying to knock his tenure or priase it. I just don't want Met fannies to get caught up too much in the notion that Steve Phillips was fired by the Mets and therefore our team won't get the credit it deserves on Baseball Tonight.
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Iubitul Sep 13 2007 02:00 PM |
Point taken, but he still doesn't think the Mets will make the playoffs ;-)
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Edgy DC Sep 13 2007 02:08 PM |
I hope BB2N fires him (and each other) the minute the Mets clinch.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 24 2007 12:53 PM |
I'd love to see Wright win this thing, but, and I hate to say it, I think a better case can be made for Jimmy Rollins.
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TransMonk Sep 24 2007 12:57 PM |
Make it.
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Valadius Sep 24 2007 01:11 PM |
A case can be made for Rollins, but I think Utley gets more of the Phillies vote.
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metsmarathon Sep 24 2007 01:52 PM |
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i still go wright, as most measures i can find do agree, save vorp, which has him 2nd:
rank among mvp "candidates"
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Edgy DC Sep 24 2007 01:56 PM |
Any room in that table for Jake PV?
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Frayed Knot Sep 24 2007 02:08 PM |
What Wright has going for him above most of the other likely suspects is OBP - a whopping .414 at the moment - which is why many of those metrics above rate him so high. Only Helton, Chipper & Pujols are higher in the NL (w/enough ABs).
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 24 2007 02:10 PM |
I think Rollins will be helped by his being a shortstop.
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Edgy DC Sep 24 2007 02:13 PM |
It sure will be interesting to see how deeply Hanley Ramirez's season gets buried.
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A Boy Named Seo Sep 24 2007 02:15 PM |
Coors Field's Park Factor is 107 this year, not so crazy a hitter's park as it used to, but still second most favorable in the league (GAP in Cincy is 108). Shea, by comparison, is a 95, and Wright kills there.
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metsmarathon Sep 24 2007 03:07 PM |
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peavy's lines inserted into the table... sorta...
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Valadius Sep 25 2007 11:22 AM |
I think it'll come down to the wire now, but if Wright continues doing what he's been doing, I think he has a fantastic shot at it. He's hitting .417 (20 for 48) with 6 doubles, 2 homers and 7 RBIs during his current 11-game hit streak. We just gotta win some ballgames.
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TransMonk Sep 25 2007 11:43 AM |
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I'd put more stock in those predictions if a) Gwynn had ever won an MVP and b) his kid didn't play for the Brewers.
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metirish Sep 25 2007 11:54 AM |
What about Keith and Ron saying last night that there should be a " Player of the Year" to go with the MVP like there used to be back in the day,it was "The Sporting News PoTY"....that came up because Gary wondered weather a player can be MVP on a crap team(thinks they can)....Keith said it was very prestiges to win The Sporting News award the year he shared the MVP......he also wondered why they don't sponsor it anymore.Gary told him The Sporting News is so marginalized these days people don't even know about it.....
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soupcan Sep 25 2007 12:18 PM |
A kid came to my door almost two years ago selling magazine subscriptions. He was a nice kid so I bought a few from him even though he represented no magazines that I read at the time.
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Vic Sage Sep 25 2007 12:19 PM |
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i've long clamored for something like this.There is a pitcher of the year award, there is an award for defense at each position, but how can their not be a hitter of the year in each league? well, of course, there was such an award.... that was what the mvp was created for. But sportswriters have long since construed "valuable" more narrowly than it was intended, and as a result great seasons have been ignored because they happened on teams that did not "win" sufficiently (wherever that line in the sand may be) Once you have a player of the year award, the MVP becomes an award for the best player or pitcher on the winningest team in each league. Then, the sportswriters can go "intangible" crazy and give it to anybody meeting those criteria, and ignore statistical analysis entirely, if they want. But lets get that award back and honor the singular distinction of being the best hitter in your league. It can be based on a point system (like the Rolaids award), using some version of what marathon has done.
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Frayed Knot Sep 25 2007 12:31 PM |
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The thing about the 'Player of the Year' award that Keith was talking about is that although it was award given from outside MLB itself, TSN was so highly regarded within baseball circles in those days that it was as good as MLB's own awards like the MVP.
I've told this story before; but I followed an on-line link to a free 1-year subscription for 'The Sporting News'. I discovered I was being overcharged.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 25 2007 12:40 PM |
I too LOVED the Sporting News and I thought (in my youthful folly) that I'd be a lifetime subscriber.
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Edgy DC Sep 25 2007 12:46 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 27 2007 09:37 PM |
And I've long questioned how you can decry that sportswriters are construing the award more narrowly than its intent, when you insist on construing it more narrowly than its intent.
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Nymr83 Sep 25 2007 12:47 PM |
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what the heck does that have to do with it?
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metsguyinmichigan Sep 25 2007 01:49 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2007 03:32 PM |
My knock on Gwynn's comments is that he has three spaces -- and lists four players.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 25 2007 02:01 PM |
Carter in 1986?
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DocTee Sep 25 2007 02:46 PM |
isn't there a recently-minted Hank Arraon Award for the best hitter in each league?
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Edgy DC Sep 25 2007 02:48 PM |
it's pretty established, highly broken, hilghly disregarded, and needs to be fixed. Hank Aaron should be pissed.
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Nymr83 Sep 25 2007 02:51 PM |
he shouldn't be there when they give out the award
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Valadius Sep 25 2007 03:47 PM |
Baseball-Reference hasn't updated its stats to show yesterday's games, but as of yesterday, in the National League, David Wright was:
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cooby Sep 25 2007 06:15 PM |
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Was he selling The New Yorker? Those kids never seem to be selling The New Yorker. Absolute ditto on TSN by the way. Do they still have Caught on the Fly? That was the beginning of the end for me.
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Vic Sage Sep 26 2007 08:27 AM |
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i don't include pitchers in my personal consideration for the MVP because 1) when the MVP was created in 1911, there was no cy young award, so it was appropriate to consider both players and pitchers; 2) but pitchers have had a prestigious award that recognizes their accomplishment since 1956, and hitters don't, and 3) therefore, i exclude them from consideration as a protest against the fact of #2. Once hitting is separately acknowledged in the same way as pitching (and as you acknowlege, the Aaron award hardly accomplishes that), then I'd be happy to see the MVP go to anybody the writers felt deserving.
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metirish Sep 26 2007 08:37 AM |
Yeah the Hank Aaron award doesn't rate at all,when the booth was talking about this the other night it didn't even rate a mention.Keith said winning the PoTY that time (79) was a "huge honor and surprise",PoTH they felt could be the best all round player in the league separate from MVP....last night Gary asked if the fans should vote for the MVP and Keith shouted "hell no they make a mess of the All-Star team..............."
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 08:49 AM |
I understand your position, but I don't think that's the appropriate way to protest. Use your lobbying to fix the appropriate award, which is growing in prestige even if it's absolutely being decided in an improper manner. There is a pitcher of the year award, there is an award for defense at each position, but how can their not be a hitter of the year in each league?...that's just untrue.
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duan Sep 26 2007 09:12 AM meanwhile |
in VORP terms David Wright has had the best season by a met ever (and a late season tear would increase his lead too).
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Rockin' Doc Sep 26 2007 11:26 AM |
Wouldn't the Silver Slugger Awards be the hitters equivalent of the Gold Glove Award for defense? Still, I think a PoTY Award would be good idea. It would provide a chance to reward excellence in individual performance without concern for the quality of the team for which the individual plays.
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 11:32 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 26 2007 11:38 AM |
Correctly rewarding the outstanding batsman, or outstanding offensive player is what is needed.
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bmfc1 Sep 26 2007 11:33 AM |
I agree that a distinct award is needed to separate "the best season" from "the most valuable player." Keep the "MVP" award for "value"--if your team finishes last, perhaps you weren't that valuable since your team would have finished last without you. Have "The Babe Ruth Award" for the AL and "The Hank Aaron Award" for the NL to honor the batter who has the best season. For those, it doesn't matter if your team stinks.
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Frayed Knot Sep 26 2007 11:36 AM |
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And it's not like the decision is going to be made any easier by the top candidates limping towards the finish line.
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 11:40 AM |
I disagree that a player on a last-place team lacks the value of a player offering the same performance on a first-place team.
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HahnSolo Sep 26 2007 11:52 AM |
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I just checked Holliday: 1st in Hits, Total Bases, Doubles, RBI, Runs Created, Extra Base Hits 2nd in Batting Average, Slugging pct. 4th in Runs Scored, Home Runs, OPS, Times on Base 9th in OBP, Plate Appearances It's Game and Set, and Holliday is serving for the Match.
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Nymr83 Sep 26 2007 12:08 PM |
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i think theres some, though not much, merit to the argument that the guy who helped his team reach the playoffs did it under tougher pressure than the guy who was in last place... though that works equally well against the guy who ran away with his division. i'm willing to say that "playoff team" should be something of a tiebreaker, but a clearly better season shouldnt be disregarded because the team didn't finish well.
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Valadius Sep 26 2007 12:10 PM |
I think the stat to keep an eye on is going to be runs created. Currently it's:
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 12:17 PM |
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Some.
Good point. These guys aren't oft penalized.
Is there merit to crediting a guy who is grinding it out, maintiaining a standard of excellence on a flailing team, with going-nowhere teammates and sparse and apathetic crowds, with little to motivate him to continually push beyond the apparent limits of his excellence, save his deep sense of professionalism, determination, and refusal to accept last place when even fourth is attainable --- who gives those paying customers his all with no ring on the line, but respect for the game and the sacrifice they made to come see him play? I think some. How about respect for the guy who goes out there with the pressure of knowing that --- unlike players on first-place teams --- if he has a bad day, it's far less likely that a teammate will pick him up? I think some. Value is value. A guy adds ten games to his team's win total, I don't care if they were wins 41-50 or 111-120. His team is too oft a matter of circumstance. The professional credit he gets shouldn't be.
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TransMonk Sep 26 2007 12:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 26 2007 12:50 PM |
I really don't have a clear cut favorite to tell you the truth. I am really enjoying the fact that the NL is producing a bunch of new young superstars instead of the same boring Bonds/Pujols race it seems we've had for the past decade.
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 12:45 PM |
Nearsighted, but every time Utley swings a bat against the Mets, I'm convinced he's the best player in the league.
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Vic Sage Sep 26 2007 01:48 PM |
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but i propose the opposite of your strawman proposal. I propose an appropriate award for best hitter, so MVP can go back to awarding best player (hitter or pitcher, winning team or not), as it was originally intended. When the MVP was created in 1911, Cobb and Shulte both won it while playing for 2nd place teams. So there was no limitation on the award, from its inception, to giving it only to players from playoff teams. And, until 1956, the award was appropriately given to both hitters and pitchers But since the creation of the cy young award in 1956, pitchers have been eligible for 2 awards for the same season of production, while hitters have been limited to one. That is inherently inequitable. the silver slugger doesn't address the issue because it gives 18 awards, arbitarily given by position, that might be ignoring many of the best hitters in each league, simply because there may be a hitter at their particular position that was better. To award a catcher over superior hitters at other positions, for example, doesn't really address the current underlying inequity. if Aaron and Ruth awards were promoted to the level of the cy young, that would be the answer, but so far that has not happened. And until it does, i continue my pointless little protest which takes the form only of being argumentative on the subject.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 26 2007 01:54 PM |
I was wondering how you raise the stature of an award? How do you make people care?
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Vic Sage Sep 26 2007 02:15 PM |
why would the press care about the best pitcher more than best hitter?
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Valadius Sep 26 2007 02:24 PM |
The way the Aaron award has been managed is ludicrous. Arbitrarily come up with finalists? Let the idiot masses vote on it and screw it up like they do All-Star selections? Please. I'd turn it into something the players and/or managers vote on, making sure that they can't vote for a teammate.
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Vic Sage Sep 26 2007 02:55 PM |
i wouldn't have it be decided by a vote at all! let a committtee hash out a SABRmetric formula for both, so they're both objectively decided.
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Nymr83 Sep 26 2007 03:12 PM |
i'd have no problem with that, as longas the formula was a good one and not "highest SLG% wins" or something
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Edgy DC Sep 26 2007 07:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 27 2007 09:35 PM |
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I was responding to the post before mine.
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metsmarathon Sep 27 2007 09:26 AM |
i plan on eventually running the top MVP contenders in the NL through my schaeffer spreadsheet (the absolute points generator, not the relativistic vote generator that requires input from the entire team) to see how they compare.
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Rockin' Doc Sep 27 2007 08:52 PM |
Vic Sage - "the silver slugger doesn't address the issue because it gives 18 awards, arbitarily given by position, that might be ignoring many of the best hitters in each league, simply because there may be a hitter at their particular position that was better. To award a catcher over superior hitters at other positions, for example, doesn't really address the current underlying inequity."
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Edgy DC Sep 27 2007 09:44 PM |
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There's more important things, like my team crashing and burning, but these moving targets are difficult.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2007 01:21 PM |
I don't think we'll be on the edges of our seats when it's time to announce the MVP winners next month.
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Nymr83 Oct 01 2007 01:24 PM |
without a doubt it has.
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Valadius Oct 01 2007 01:35 PM |
David won't get it.
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soupcan Oct 01 2007 01:42 PM |
My vote goes to Rollins.
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Frayed Knot Oct 01 2007 01:49 PM |
I predict: Rollins, Fielder, Holiday, Wright
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metirish Oct 01 2007 01:55 PM |
Were the votes cast, if not then when?
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2007 01:59 PM |
They get cast some time between the end of the regular season and before the playoffs start.
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Zvon Oct 01 2007 02:31 PM |
Rollins.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2007 02:37 PM |
How many hours per day do you spend Photoshopping Mets images?
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G-Fafif Oct 01 2007 02:39 PM |
The Wright for MVP boomlet was symptomatic of what was wrong with the presumptuousness that surrounded this team all year. Wright is becoming a very good player. He is very valuable. To have lumped him in with Rollins or Holliday or Fielder for 2007 as most valuable was laughable when it was going on and it is sad today.
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Frayed Knot Oct 01 2007 02:57 PM |
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I don't agree. I think he was, and still is, a legit choice, just one that's going to fall a bit short due to various factors; among them his team not winning (blah, blah), his lack of any one great stat, the tendancy of writers to rely on "signature moments" such as Rollins on Sunday for their votes, etc. But he had a better OBA than all and a better BA than all but Holliday, terrific 'across-the-board' stats, a great September (better than Rollins) even if his team didn't, all in a tougher hitters' park to contend with than the rest. Plus it's not like Holliday & Fielder are winning gold gloves at corner positions either.
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metsmarathon Oct 01 2007 03:18 PM |
i'd have dwright as a better candidate, in my mind, than rollins fer sure.
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Zvon Oct 01 2007 03:28 PM |
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Is that a problem? Jack: "Chloe, I need all the info we've got on a "Yancy" street gang. Start with the New York data base. Work backwards from 'Z'."
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Grote15 Oct 01 2007 06:10 PM |
I don't think Wright was an MVP candidate in the best of times..too many airmailed throws and then that force at third where he waited to tag the guy..ouch
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2007 07:44 PM |
I thik Wright's reflexes are fine. I trust his reflexes better than I trust his nerves. He's seemingly sharper with less time to think.
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metsmarathon Oct 01 2007 09:51 PM |
honestly, i don't think that tag at third was anything more than landing off balance from trying to snag the errant throw from loduca...
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2007 10:20 PM |
Holliday gets my vote as soon as he touches home plate.
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holychicken Oct 01 2007 10:22 PM |
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So does he get your vote or not? I am not sure. . . What a game.
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Frayed Knot Oct 01 2007 10:25 PM |
Helluva hitter but neither his fielding nor baserunning skills were on display tonight.
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G-Fafif Oct 01 2007 10:28 PM |
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Totally agree with that and totally agree that colors my impression of Wright. All I know from the other contenders are the heroics I hear about and then I get impatient waiting for the same performance from David. I still never felt it from Wright, though.
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2007 07:27 AM |
i think it'll go to holliday. he leads the league in average, rbi, and is up there in homers. and i don't think there's too much of an impression that he's a product of coors, regardless of the home/road splits.
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Frayed Knot Oct 02 2007 07:41 AM |
Not really sure what kind of "performance" you feel is missing. Everything since
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Edgy DC Oct 02 2007 07:56 AM |
I don't like the notion that he's going to be hurt by not having a super stat.
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2007 08:14 AM |
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there are so many damned runs created sites out there... and none of them agree.
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but i don't think the voters look at this stuff...
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Vic Sage Oct 02 2007 10:17 AM |
what about win shares and VORP rankings?
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2007 12:45 PM |
last i checked, win shares on the hardball times hadn't been updated since 18 sept, when wright had a sizeable lead over pujols and the rest of the field.
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Grote15 Oct 02 2007 06:43 PM |
All the stats here are valid and accurate but the voters vote on the buzz dujour....Unfortunately for David there ain't no buzz..this year....
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2007 06:49 PM |
if the voters look at mvp numbers, then there's no way holliday doesn't get it.
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Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 09:21 AM |
This guy says Wright, too.
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TransMonk Oct 11 2007 09:32 AM |
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Only if they give GGs to everyone in the league.
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Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 09:43 AM |
I don't think he was a Gold Glover either, but he had some moments. But the gloving is what we see everyday from him and don't see everyday from others. But neither do the voters see the erratickness that we sometimes saw.
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Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 09:47 AM |
defensively, he's frustrating because he can make great plays and miss simple ones. He's got great quickness, good hands and a strong arm, but when he has too much time, his throws are erratic. That's his main weakness on defense, and i have the sense that its fixable. I think he actually COULD be a GGer eventually, with his tools and work ethic, but certainly not until it becomes safer to sit in the field boxes behind 1b.
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Frayed Knot Oct 11 2007 10:12 AM |
[url=http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/my-2007-mvps/]This statistics-based approach[/url] not only gives Wright the MVP but also gives him high marks for defense.
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TransMonk Oct 11 2007 10:22 AM |
If nothing else that article reiterates how remarkably consistent Wright's offense has been during his career to this point.
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Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 10:27 AM |
I love the paucity of outs, particularly in the second half. Relatedly, I love the fact that he doesn't have to hit 50 homers to be this productive.
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Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 10:30 AM |
Wright is the Mets' "Mr. Right" and they should marry him.
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Rockin' Doc Oct 11 2007 11:15 AM |
TransMonk - "Only if they give GGs to everyone in the league."
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2007 11:34 AM |
But that would mean that Mike Francesa was wrong!
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