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IGT 9/9/07 - Mets vs. Astros

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 10:33 AM

Houston Astros

H. Pence CF
C. Biggio 2B
L. Berkman 1B
C. Lee LF
M. Loretta SS
M. Lamb 3B
L. Scott RF
B. Ausmus C
R. Oswalt P

New York Mets

J. Reyes SS
L. Castillo 2B
C. Beltran CF
M. Alou LF
S. Green 1B
P. Lo Duca C
R. Gotay 3B
E. Chavez RF
P. Martinez P

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 10:42 AM

So today is David Wright's day off.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 11:04 AM

OH, put your proper pajamas on! Pedro's back.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 11:06 AM

I'm gonna try to get WFAN streaming on my computer. I hope it works.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 11:15 AM

What the hell?!?!?!?

My WFAN live stream all of a sudden just switched to coverage of the 2006 NFL Draft with Joe Benigno interviewing D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 11:19 AM

Welcome to Hell.

metirish
Sep 09 2007 11:22 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2007 11:22 AM

Val,Mets games do not go out on the stream....no idea why.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 11:22 AM

Nothing of much importance is free in hell.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 11:26 AM

Well, we quickly go up 1-0 as Castillo doubles and then Beltran singles to drive him home.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 11:28 AM

Who did the Bills take in round one?

Keith Hernandez: "Garvey never made any errors. He never got to any balls, either."

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 11:43 AM

Phew. We can all breathe now.

Pedro's gotta get his pitch count down. It would be a shame to have to pull him after 3 or 4 innings with that 75-pitch pitch count.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 11:47 AM

Apparently it's a DC-only thread, with all NYC-Poolers at the game.

Gary, Keith, and Ron in agreement that the umps blew it in giving Oswalt first, saying he did nothing to get out of the way, and in fact leaned into it.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 11:49 AM

I love DC. Go Skins.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 11:53 AM

Get's Bidge to start on the curve in the dirt, but Bidge takes first as it gets away. Then gets Berkman on the change. Then gets Lee on the change.

Pedro going for the record four-K inning.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 09 2007 12:01 PM

Pedro has it going through three innings. He's thrown 67 pitches though and he needs a quick inning in the 4th so he can at least get through 5 innings.

Meanwhile, the Mets need to keep chipping away at Oswalt for a few more runs, which is no easy task.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:03 PM

Pedro misses out on the 4-K inning, but still, 3 K's in the third. His pitch count is up to 67 now.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 09 2007 12:04 PM

Holy role reversal, Batman. Pedro doubles to lead off the bottom of the third, then Jose Reyes sac bunts him to third.

Now Castillo walks to put men on the corners for the Astros' favorite son, Carlos Beltran. Show me something Carlos.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:05 PM

Met's threatening first-and-third as Pedro one-hops a double off the wall.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 09 2007 12:06 PM

Sac fly deep to the left centerfield power ally plates Pedro and allows Castillo to advance to second with 2 outs.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:10 PM

Well, a sac fly is something.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 09 2007 12:11 PM

Alou doing his part to get Oswalts pitch count up by fouling off 6 pitches, but eventually he goes down swinging as he couldn't foul off a 7th strike.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 09 2007 12:14 PM

valadius - "Well, a sac fly is something."

Runs can be tough to come by against Oswalt, so I wasn't disappointed with the sac fly. He got Pedro home which was the most crucial thing.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:15 PM

Eight-pitch inning in the fourth, suckas.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:20 PM

Pedro's pitch count is now exactly 75.

What to do, what to do...

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:26 PM

Glad we got Castillo and not Loretta.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:29 PM

So Pedro's gonna go out there past his pitch count and try to get through 5. I have faith in him.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:32 PM

Mota and Schoeneweis up in the pen.

Usually, you see 59 and 60 up in the pen, and you know it's September. That's right, but for the wrong reason.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 12:37 PM

That's right folks, 5 shutout innings.

I'll take it.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:38 PM

"Back in the New York Groove" plays.

Has five innings ever before seemed so much like a complete game?

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:41 PM

5 shutout innings. Pedro's getting there. The optimism increases.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 12:45 PM

I like Alou.

KABOOM!

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:48 PM

Beautiful girl
Lovely dress
High school smiles
Oh yes!
Beautiful girl
Lovely dress
Where she is now I can only guess

'Cause its gone, Daddy, gone!
Love is gone
Gone, Daddy, gone!
Love is gone
Its gone, Daddy, gone!
Love is gone
Gone, Daddy, gone!
Love is gone away

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 12:51 PM

Alou goes KABOOM!!!

Mets lead 4-0 after 5.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2007 12:52 PM

Mota quickly gets the natives restless

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:52 PM

Hello, Mr. Mota.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 12:55 PM

Jiminy Christmas.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:56 PM

Mota thinking like the infielder he was and blows a play.

Problem is that he was a failed infielder.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 12:58 PM

Ron Darling on A-Rod: "The way he's swinging, he needs to be called up. I mean, there's got to be another league to call him up to, because he's making a mockery of this one."

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:04 PM

Mota had nothing on the line but his future Metliness there.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 01:06 PM

Why did Mota have to attend the Armando Benitez School for Gifted but Frustrating Relief Pitchers?

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 01:14 PM

Mmmm...roller derby.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:15 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2007 01:16 PM

Mota's and Benitez's success rates could hardly be more different.

Why can a third- or first-base ump overturn a ball call, but not overturn a swing call?

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:16 PM

Reyes looks like ptt these days.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 01:18 PM

I was just about to mention Reyes' struggles. He's hit a mini-slump and seen his BA fall to .288 from .301.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2007 01:21 PM

Today's trivia Q:

- Two other pitchers - aside from Pedro - w/3,000 Ks born outside the U.S.A.


I think I got 'em both (my guesses below before they provide the answer)





















Bert Blyleven
Fergie Jenkins

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:22 PM

Scott hits a ball foul by a few feet and doesn't run, and his interim manager pats him in the butt. He should be kicking it.

Aflac asks: Pedro is the third pitcher born outside the US with 3,000 Ks. Who are the other two.

Fergy Jenkins is one. I don't think that Dennis Martinez got close. They say it wasn't Marichal. Who?

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 01:22 PM

You are correct FK.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:23 PM

Blyleven. Damn.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2007 01:25 PM

Football talk during baseball games annoys me.
Particularly when it's solely to satisfy the gambling jones of an announcer.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:31 PM

Keith Hernandez = Pete Rosebut for the grace of God

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 01:36 PM

Gomez comes in to play left field.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 01:50 PM

We may have found a position for Gotay.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 01:52 PM

Two outs now in the ninth.

Nail it down, Wagner.

TransMonk
Sep 09 2007 01:53 PM

Sweep.

Lovin' it.

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 01:58 PM

Mets win!
Mets sweep!
Pedro wins again!
Mets clinch 3rd consecutive .500 or better season!

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 09 2007 02:11 PM

Valadius wrote:

Mets clinch 3rd consecutive .500 or better season!


You've got to be kidding.

We have to set our sights higher than that.

Edgy DC
Sep 09 2007 02:30 PM

Valadius wrote:
I was just about to mention Reyes' struggles. He's hit a mini-slump and seen his BA fall to .288 from .301.


He's hit far more than a min-slump. He was slumping when he was at .301.

Zvon
Sep 09 2007 03:00 PM

="Edgy DC"]
="Valadius"]I was just about to mention Reyes' struggles. He's hit a mini-slump and seen his BA fall to .288 from .301.


He's hit far more than a min-slump. He was slumping when he was at .301.


I think he's just being a great team mate and making it so writers wont be splittin the MVP votes between him and Wright.


wooohoo

Valadius
Sep 09 2007 03:43 PM

Picture of the day:



Pedro Martinez celebrates after hitting a double

metirish
Sep 10 2007 09:13 AM

Interesting bit here form Oswalt...

]

"The pitch to Mo (Alou) was a little bit up," Oswalt (14-7) said. "The ball had a scuff on it after it hit the warning track (on Beltran's double). I was going to try to use it to my advantage and make it move around. It didn't.

"It stayed straight. I should have thrown it out and stayed with the game plan I had at the beginning of the game. But that didn't lose the game, either. We had so many opportunities to get guys in. We have to do something to move guys around."




So the ump doesn't automatically take scuffed balls out and Oswalt chose to keep that ball,or did the ump not see it....

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 10 2007 09:19 AM

If the ump sees a scuff he removes the ball from the game.

But the umpire wouldn't have had a chance to see that ball if, after Beltran's double, it got tossed from the infielder to the pitcher.

Usually the ump will ask the catcher to let him see the ball after it's fouled into the dirt or something like that.

Johnny Dickshot
Sep 10 2007 09:21 AM

That's interesting though not surprising. You take what advantages you can.

Cecil Cooper gave a nice radio interview before the series began where he gave all the right answers to the questions about doing the right thing for the organization by getting young guys in there and hustling and making fewer mistakes and playing good D and so on.

Then his team went out and did virtually none of it. He also played veteran-heavy lineups including stiffs who can't catch the ball, etc etc.

Centerfield
Sep 10 2007 01:05 PM

I didn't watch the game and I've heard conflicting reports about Pedro's velocity. Some say he was 88-89, topping out in the low 90's sometimes.

In the News, the article says 84-85, topping out at 87.

Are my friends liars or is Madden?

metirish
Sep 10 2007 01:11 PM

84-85, topping out at 87 is about the speed of it,he may have had a few higher but 84 to 87 was where he was consistently on his fastball.

Nymr83
Sep 10 2007 01:14 PM

whoever said "low 90's" might have beenat thegame and been looking at the (generally absurd) stadium guns displayed for the fans.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 10 2007 01:14 PM

I remember the guys commenting on one pitch that clocked at 92, but that was out of line with the rest of his pitches, so it may have been an incorrect reading.

OlerudOwned
Sep 10 2007 01:28 PM

From the stadium, Pedro seemed to be in the 84-87 range, staying around 85 by the 5th inning.

For contrast, Oswalt was usually between 92-94.

Centerfield
Sep 10 2007 01:30 PM

I need better friends.

Edgy DC
Sep 10 2007 02:02 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
That's interesting though not surprising. You take what advantages you can.

Cecil Cooper gave a nice radio interview before the series began where he gave all the right answers to the questions about doing the right thing for the organization by getting young guys in there and hustling and making fewer mistakes and playing good D and so on.

Then his team went out and did virtually none of it. He also played veteran-heavy lineups including stiffs who can't catch the ball, etc etc.


I think I commented on it. Two stiffs stood at the plate and watched popups that were foul by a few feet. One of them got a CC pat on the ass for his non-effort.