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Edgy DC
Sep 07 2007 12:29 PM

So, who's the sponger from the Braves?



Mets careful when it comes to perks of the job
By JOHN DELCOS
THE JOURNAL NEWS


NEW YORK - David Wright and Jose Reyes live the life of dreams.

With youth, talent and money in New York, they are famous athletes in the country's most glamorous city.

There's little they can't buy, but that doesn't stop people from offering things to them. From dinners to theater tickets, from cars to electronics, from clothes to playing equipment, there are perks to being a Met in New York.

"There are a lot of players who go by the belief that 'If it's free, it's for me,' " Wright said. "I am sure, if you wanted to, you could take advantage of it."

Doing so, however, requires little shame.

"It's really embarrassing when you go out and people want to pick up dinner for you," Wright said. "For a lot of people, I think they want to be a part of things and that's the way. That's why they do it.

"When I go to dinner, I like to go under the radar. I don't expect anything for free. If I want something, I buy it myself.

"I don't want to feel obligated to anyone."

Reyes said he doesn't ask, but has been offered computers, electronics and clothes, and admits there are times when he accepts.

"It's part of playing in New York," Reyes said. "People give you things, but it's because they want things from you."

It's called the barter system.

"I got a suit because (the clothier) wanted people to see me in his suit," Reyes said, calling it a gift that benefited both parties.

Such arrangements are common, said Carlos Delgado.

"A car dealer wants you to be seen in his car, so he'll let you drive a car for the season. But you don't get to keep the car," Delgado said.

"If you go to a restaurant, they might buy you a meal because they want you to be seen eating there.

"If you want to promote something, what better way than to get somebody well known to use your product?"

Actually, it's called advertising.

Pedro Martinez said if he wants to do a commercial for somebody, he would get his agent to sign a contract with a company or corporation.

"I have the money," Martinez said. "If I want something, I buy it for myself. I don't accept anything from anybody. If somebody wants to give me something for free, it's like, 'What does he want?' "

That's why if broadcaster Ron Darling likes the place, he pays.

"I tell them if you pay for me I'm not coming back," Darling said. "If he wants to send over dessert or coffee, that's fine. But, I won't let him pick up the whole meal."

Darling then smiled and said, "Now, if I know I'm never coming back ... "

For most Mets, it's not the meal, but the chance to eat it that they'll take advantage of.

"There are a lot of perks to this business, and one of them is getting to the front of the line," said Tom Glavine, who, if he wants to go out on one of his few off nights during the season, prefers not to eat at 10 or 11.

"I'll do that. There are places in New York that you can't get into, but if you're with the Mets, they'll find a table for you."

Glavine once had a teammate with the Braves who made the rounds, from restaurants to department stores with expectations.

"He made no bones about it," Glavine said. "He was making the minimum and knew he wasn't going to be around long. He was looking for things.

"There are always going to be people like that. There are people who are always looking to get something. There are cheap baseball players, too."

Billy Wagner got access to tickets to see "The Lion King." He paid for his tickets, but got to go backstage.

"That's a nice perk the normal person wouldn't have gotten. I know that," Wagner said. "When you're in this position (as a well-known athlete), you get it both ways. You have people wanting to give you stuff, but you'll also have them overcharging you because they know you have money."

And if you're not on top anymore, you might not get anything.

Who didn't know Keith Hernandez when he played for the Mets and St. Louis?

"They know who you are in New York, and in St. Louis they love their baseball and will do anything for you," Hernandez said.

Not so, he said, at the end of his career in Cleveland.

Hernandez recalled one day when he tried to play the celebrity card when he was having trouble finding a parking spot on July 4 in the Flats, a popular restaurant and entertainment district.

"I told him, 'I'm Keith Hernandez. I play for the Cleveland Indians,' " Hernandez said. "He just turned and walked away."

metirish
Sep 07 2007 12:36 PM

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"I told him, 'I'm Keith Hernandez. I play for the Cleveland Indians,' " Hernandez said. "He just turned and walked away."



Phil Mushnick would just love that line.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2007 12:36 PM

If I was making $15 million a year, I wouldn't be doing TV commercials (except for public service type stuff). If I don't need the money, I don't need the hassle.

seawolf17
Sep 07 2007 01:28 PM

If I was making $15 million year, and someone actually wanted to pay me MORE just to do a television commercial, I would jump on that faster than a kangaroo on a pogo stick made of rabbits.

Unless it was for some crazy faith healer.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2007 01:34 PM

You'd waste a day making a television commercial if you were financially set for life?

Why?

Frayed Knot
Sep 07 2007 01:48 PM

I'm with Yancy on this one.

I hear Tiger Woods doing these cheesy-sounding ads on radio about where he got his laser-eye surgery done: Hi, I'm Tiger Woods, and when it was time for me to have laser eye surgery the only place for me was ...
and now we get to watch him shave on TV for some razor blade company and I'm thinking: does he really want the money THAT bad?

Edgy DC
Sep 07 2007 01:57 PM

Money makes the wrold go round. Maybe he's underwriting scholarships for an entire village of Chihuahuans.

Nymr83
Sep 07 2007 02:10 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
You'd waste a day making a television commercial if you were financially set for life?

Why?


you can't have too much money. sure you could have enough for yourself, but what about your family? your friends? your place of worship? other charities you may like? theres always somewhere to send the cash.

G-Fafif
Sep 07 2007 02:11 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
You'd waste a day making a television commercial if you were financially set for life?

Why?


Set for life can be a funny thing. Who knows how set one can be and how long one can live? (Megamegamega Tiger Woods types notwithstanding.) Besides, these are the guys who are always talking about "if I'm 4-for-4, I want that fifth hit". They're competitors. They'll take what they can get. They can get a lot more than the average schmo can.

A Mets-Tribe World Series would be the Keith Hernandez Series, even if most of Cleveland wouldn't realize it.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2007 02:30 PM

If I have a guaranteed contract that pays $15 million per over seven or eight years, I'd consider myself set for life.

That would provide me with plenty of money to give to friends and family and charity without my having to do commercials. And I don't have a place of worship, so that's not a factor.

There's no way I would do a shaving commercial for some extra dough.

Look at it this way: Would YOU sign up for a one-day work assignment if it paid you twenty dollars? Of course not, a full day of your time is worth more than twenty bucks. I figure the money an athlete gets for making a TV commercial is, to him, what twenty dollars is to me.

And I couldn't be bothered.

metirish
Sep 07 2007 02:34 PM

I think for some of these guys it's not so much about the money but about extending their "brand name",I'd guess that Woods approved Federer and Henry in the current TV commercial they are in.

Frayed Knot
Sep 07 2007 02:51 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I figure the money an athlete gets for making a TV commercial is, to him, what twenty dollars is to me.


It's a lot more than that in many cases to the point where athletes can make a lot more (in total) via their endormsements than they do on the regular salary.
It just seems to me that some of them don't know when to say NO. Tiger's big money comes from the equipment & clothing manufacturers he's associated with plus some companies that are closely linked to golf: Buick for instance; they sponsor several tournaments and Tiger never skips any of those. But his recent choices just seem like piling on and makes you wonder which ones he turns down. Jeter too is starting to be seen all over the place as a talking head in ads just as the real huge money on his deal has kicked in. And then, of course, there's the issue about those who do this stuff and then complain about their lost privacy.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2007 03:01 PM

I guess it's me.

I could, in my real actual life, work harder and earn more money than I am. But I don't because I enjoy lazy weekends and evenings with the family.

If, as a multi-thousandaire, I choose leisure over additional income, then I'm sure I'd make the same choice as a multi-millionaire.

Edgy DC
Sep 07 2007 03:01 PM

For golfers, the real money has always been in endorsements. Arnie and Jack remained among the highest paid athletes long after their total prize money had dwindled to nada.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2007 03:03 PM

Yes, it is different for golfers.

Derek Jeter gets all the money he needs (and much more) in his paycheck.

G-Fafif
Sep 07 2007 04:25 PM

I passed the Keith anecdote along to a friend in Chicago who roots for the Tribe and the Cubs. He sent along this:

]When Cubs players do the pre-game show with Santo they get a Walgreens gift card. I always thought that was kind of funny -- couldn't picture Soriano going into a store and pulling out his gift card. But the other day I heard that the players absolutely LOVE freebies like this. They give them away to members of their entourage, clubhouse boys, batboys, mistresses, etc.


The stakes are much higher now (except on the Cubs, apparently) but I remember Denny McLain saying Willie Horton was always so up for extra immediate bucks that he'd take the $50 check they gave him for appearing on the Tiger postgame show and sell it in the clubhouse for cash...less than its worth because he just wanted the money right now.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 07 2007 04:28 PM

Yancy - "I guess it's me.

I could, in my real actual life, work harder and earn more money than I am. But I don't because I enjoy lazy weekends and evenings with the family.

If, as a multi-thousandaire, I choose leisure over additional income, then I'm sure I'd make the same choice as a multi-millionaire."


Your not alone, Yancy. My partners and I decided that having time to relax with family and friends was more important than simply making money. We work very hard when we are in the office, but we decided that money was of little value to us if we were working so much that we had little time to enjoy havung it. Over the past 20 years we have shortened our office hours and reduced the number of days that each of us work. I don't regret having made the decision to value time with family and friends over seeing how much money I can make.

G-Fafif
Sep 07 2007 04:42 PM

I understand and respect the hypothetical and sometimes real decisions that are made to spend time with family (except when politicans say that) instead of grabbing for every dollar on the table. But look at it this way, too: Most athletes aren't going to be asked to endorse a thing in a few years, so I don't blame anybody who gets it while he can.

My father still talks about Mark Gastineau signing pumpkins on Jericho Turnpike one long ago football season. All right, so he was the exception to the rule.