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Woke up thinking about Jose

Kid Carsey Sep 16 2007 07:02 AM

No, not the Reyes in the infamous pictures here of him clad in leather ... the one who has a vacant look about him sometimes. The guy that doesn't run out foul pop-ups that might be fair. The guy that gets picked off. The guy who hits way too many pop flies to the outfield for outs instead of line drives in the gap for doubles. The guy who tries to steal third with two outs and a MVP can- didate at the plate. Enough of that already. Reyes just hasn't seemed the same to me since that run in with Willie. Willie was right, Jose was wrong, but the toothy smile often seems forced most times now. The much maligned dugout celebratory handshakes are a lot shorter and controlled. I miss the exuberance, I hope it wasn't killed off to the point of no return. Funny thing is, although he looks tired and worn out and unfocused a lot his play at shortstop hasn't been affected. He eats up everything and his arm is among the best in the league. It's tiring to hear stuff like, "as player X goes, so goes the team" but Jeebus H. Cocoapuffs we need him back. When he's on and scoring a run or two a game it would make all the difference. Maybe I'm wrong, but I find myself muttering Jose Jose Jose a lot lately instead of cheering JOSE JOSEJOSEJO- SE like the chant goes.

Frayed Knot Sep 16 2007 08:22 AM

Another game like these past two and I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and get myself a gun.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 16 2007 12:05 PM

His head is so far up his ass I can't see it coming out in time. We're screwed IOW.

MFS62 Sep 16 2007 12:30 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: His head is so far up his ass I can't see it coming out in time. We're screwed IOW. Maybe that explains it. His head is up his ass, so his eyes are blocked and he can't see anything. Later

Zvon Sep 16 2007 01:58 PM

You guys read about Wrights reaction to Reyes getting thrown out at 3rd when he was up? Bad stuff about the Mets... We certainly don't need any type of discord at this time.Not at any time between those two, but especially at this time.

Willets Point Sep 16 2007 02:01 PM Re: Woke up thinking about Jose

Kid Carsey wrote: Reyes just hasn't seemed the same to me since that run in with Willie. Willie was right, Jose was wrong, but the toothy smile often seems forced most times now. Missed this. What happened with Jose and Willie?

MFS62 Sep 16 2007 02:12 PM

Willie yanked him out of a game for not hustling. It was several weeks ago. I also think that was when Jose started his decline. Later

Zvon Sep 16 2007 03:38 PM

="MFS62"]Willie yanked him out of a game for not hustling. It was several weeks ago. I also think that was when Jose started his decline. Later I bet Willie saw that "The Bronx is Burning" episode the night before he did that.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 16 2007 09:29 PM

Jose started looking bad to me long before Willie benched him, actually. What's especially troubling now is that it's even extended to his hands in the field. You kinda always knew he wasn't going to be a smiling energy machine his whole life. I mean, Kirby Puckett maintained that illusion deep into his career before it came out he was a complete creep all along.

G-Fafif Sep 16 2007 11:57 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Kirby Puckett maintained that illusion deep into his career before it came out he was a complete creep all along. It's a slump -- not a potentially lethal character flaw.

Edgy DC Sep 17 2007 05:20 AM

I agree his troubles pre-date the "benching" (one inning).

Iubitul Sep 17 2007 09:36 AM

He went on that SB tear in August - I wonder how much that took out of him.

Zvon Sep 17 2007 03:56 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: What's especially troubling now is that it's even extended to his hands in the field. Those were his 1st errors in a long time, and to be fair he was blocked out visually. The seriously real error was on the rushed throw, imo, not the booted grounder. Man, this is a tough crowd. *Adjusts tie

Rockin' Doc Sep 17 2007 05:18 PM

Zvon - "Those were his 1st errors in a long time...." Reyes got lucky the other night when the grounder he botched bounced directly from him to Castillo covering second base. Castillo took the carom off of Reyes and turned a nice double play. Overall, I think Reyes' defense has been fine throughout the season, but he seems to be getting sloppy of late. His hitting has been very sporadic in the second half of the season. He seems to hit too many balls in the air for outs. He needs to be hitting line drives and ground balls so he can utilize his speed. His speed is of no use on pop ups and fly balls to the outfield.

Zvon Sep 17 2007 08:31 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Zvon - "Those were his 1st errors in a long time...." Reyes got lucky the other night when the grounder he botched bounced directly from him to Castillo covering second base. Castillo took the carom off of Reyes and turned a nice double play. Overall, I think Reyes' defense has been fine throughout the season, but he seems to be getting sloppy of late. His hitting has been very sporadic in the second half of the season. He seems to hit too many balls in the air for outs. He needs to be hitting line drives and ground balls so he can utilize his speed. His speed is of no use on pop ups and fly balls to the outfield. Well, his error tonight (though I didn't see it, don't know exactly how it went down) indicates that you are correct sir. Sloppy stuff. And you are on the mark about his air shots. He used to take that low pitch and drill it.