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SCHAEFER METS PLAYER OF THE MONTH: AUGUST 2007

Benjamin Grimm Sep 06 2007 06:47 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 06 2007 06:58 AM

SCHAEFER METS PLAYER AND PITCHER OF THE MONTH, AUGUST 2007 The Schaefer Mets Player of the Month for August 2007 is DAVID WRIGHT. This is David's third win this season and fifth overall. He is the first Met to be named Player of the Month five times. Wright led the Mets in August with 28 runs, 39 hits, 26 walks, a .394 batting average and and on base percentage of .516. Wright's 6 home runs were second to Moises Alou's 7. He also had 21 runs batted in, trailing only Carlos Beltran, who had 23. The Schaefer Mets Pitcher of the Month for August 2007 is ORLANDO HERNANDEZ. Hernandez edged Tom Glavine for the honor, beating him by a mere 0.13 points. This is Hernandez's second win. (He previously won this honor in September 2006.) In six starts in August, Hernandez was 2-0 with an ERA of 4.17. He led the Mets in innings pitched with 36.2 and finished second to Oliver Perez (39) in strikeouts, with 37. Month-to-date totals for August 2007 Through game of August 31, 2007 Rank Name Points 1 David Wright 28.34 2 Carlos Beltran 22.45 3 José Reyes 18.26 4 Moises Alou 16.92 5 Carlos Delgado 15.45 6 Orlando Hernandez 14.47 7 Tom Glavine 14.34 8 Luis Castillo 12.74 9 Marlon Anderson 12.15 10 Oliver Perez 9.27 11 Jorge Sosa 8.57 12 Lastings Milledge 8.56 13 Shawn Green 7.02 14 John Maine 5.87 15 Aaron Heilman 5.28 16 Pedro Feliciano 5.13 17 Damion Easley 4.88 18 Mike DiFelice 4.38 19 Guillermo Mota 4.28 20 Brian Lawrence 4.18 21 Billy Wagner 3.78 22 Ramon Castro 3.69 23 Scott Schoeneweis 2.78 24 Aaron Sele 2.61 25 Paul Lo Duca 2.40 26 Endy Chavez 2.02 27 Ruben Gotay 1.90 28 David Newhan 1.87 29 Jeff Conine 1.72 30 Sandy Alomar 0.45 Previous Winners Year April May June July August September 2005 Cliff Floyd Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month Mike Cameron Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month Cliff Floyd Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month José Reyes Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month David Wright Player of the Month Tom Glavine Pitcher of the Month Tom Glavine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month 2006 Tom Glavine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month Carlos Beltran Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month David Wright Player of the Month Alay Soler Pitcher of the Month Carlos Beltran Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month José Reyes Player of the Month Steve Trachsel Pitcher of the Month Carlos Delgado Player of the Month Orlando Hernandez Pitcher of the Month 2007 José Reyes Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month David Wright Player of the Month Oliver Perez Pitcher of the Month John Maine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month David Wright Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month David Wright Player of the Month Orlando Hernandez Pitcher of the Month

metirish Sep 06 2007 06:55 AM

] This is Maine's second win. (He previously won this honor in Typo there Yancy.....congrats to both David and El Duque,was that the tightest race ever for first place?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 06 2007 07:00 AM

Thanks. Typo was fixed. You mean first place among the pitchers, I assume. The answer is: I don't know. If you're curious, go to http://potg.ultimatemets.com and you can see for yourself.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 06 2007 07:06 AM

Fantastic. Can we do an all-time monthly point-total list? I'd like to know whose had the Schaferiest months ever.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 06 2007 07:07 AM

You can find that out by poking around at http://potg.ultimatemets.com. Keep in mind that Schaefer totals were higher in 2005 when we had the "must vote 10 points" rule in effect.

Edgy DC Sep 06 2007 07:16 AM

We have a dogfight brewing for Pitcher of the Year. Tom Glavine could win it while never winning any particularly month. Meanwhile, Billy Wagner sits behind Damion Easley. DAMION EASLEY!

metirish Sep 06 2007 07:18 AM

Edgy DC wrote: We have a dogfight brewing for Pitcher of the Year. Tom Glavine could win it while never winning any particularly month. Meanwhile, Billy Wagner sits behind Damion Easley. DAMION EASLEY! And Mike DiFelice....hell he sits behind Mota and Lawrence.

Edgy DC Sep 06 2007 07:23 AM

DiFelice's target should be David Newhan for the coveted 30th slot. In our rankings (not that this isn't a different beast), only the first 30 guys get paid.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 06 2007 07:26 AM

Well, that's just for August, irish. In the season voting, Wagner (14th place) is well ahead of DiFelice (34th), Lawrence (35th) and Mota (23rd). But he is behind Easley (13th). Wagner's 14th makes sense to me. (I don't really think the role of a closer is as important as others do.) Easley's 13th is more surprising.

Centerfield Sep 06 2007 07:37 AM

Not much surprise there in either category. I think the forum got it right.

Frayed Knot Sep 06 2007 07:54 AM

I think PotG has been under-rewarding Wagner. Not in August, just in general. I've seen an awful lot of small or even non-existant scores even on days when he's put up a perfect inning while protecting a 1-run lead. Even last season - when he wasn't as good as this year and was, at least theoretically, going up against a tougher crew - he still managed to finish 12th. On the other hand, our year-end rankings project partially made up for it - there he finished 7th overall last season and none of the participants kept him out of their personal top 10. Maybe this means that closers tend to be appreciated on the whole, just not on a day-to-day basis.

Gwreck Sep 06 2007 08:10 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: I think PotG has been under-rewarding Wagner. Not in August, just in general. I've seen an awful lot of small or even non-existant scores even on days when he's put up a perfect inning while protecting a 1-run lead. I tend to believe to most voters undervalue our relief. I felt that way last year too. Generally speaking, I try to vote one point per scoreless inning in a save situation for all relievers (reduced proportionally in exceptional circumstances). I get the impression that such a vote is on the high end for relievers.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 06 2007 08:20 AM

How Billy Wagner has earned his Schaefer points (Sorted in order of points awarded) He seems to do better, on the whole, when he saves a one-run game with a scoreless inning. (In those cases, I always give him at least 1 point.) When he gives up runs, or is protecting a larger lead, he gets fewer points. If he were to come in with a three-run lead, and give up two and get the save, I wouldn't give him any points for that. It doesn't look like that's happened this year. I can see a few games where he seems to have been cheated. The 0.72 points on August 8, for example. Date Opponent Result Points ip h r er so bb decision 06/25/2007 Cardinals W, 2-1 1.68 2 0 0 0 3 0 05/11/2007 Brewers W, 5-4 1.09 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 07/14/2007 Reds W, 2-1 1.09 1 0 0 0 1 0 Sv 05/18/2007 Yankees W, 3-2 1.08 1 1 0 0 2 0 Sv 06/29/2007 Phillies W, 6-5 1.08 1 0 0 0 3 0 Sv 07/28/2007 Nationals W, 3-1 1.06 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 04/13/2007 Nationals W, 3-2 1.04 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 06/23/2007 Athletics W, 1-0 0.95 1 1 0 0 1 0 W 05/23/2007 Braves W, 3-0 0.9 1 1 0 0 2 0 Sv 06/26/2007 Cardinals L, 3-5 0.88 1 0 0 0 1 0 04/29/2007 Nationals W, 1-0 0.87 1 1 0 0 1 0 Sv 05/09/2007 Giants W, 5-3 0.87 1 0 0 0 2 0 Sv 07/22/2007 Dodgers W, 5-4 0.87 1 0 0 0 3 2 Sv 05/31/2007 Giants W, 4-2 0.86 1 0 0 0 2 0 Sv 08/14/2007 Pirates W, 5-4 0.85 1 0 0 0 1 0 Sv 06/05/2007 Phillies L, 2-4 0.8 1 1 0 0 1 0 07/20/2007 Dodgers W, 4-1 0.76 1 0 0 0 1 0 Sv 05/04/2007 Diamondbacks W, 5-3 0.75 1 0 0 0 1 1 Sv 07/12/2007 Reds W, 3-2 0.75 1 1 0 0 0 0 Sv 06/15/2007 Yankees W, 2-0 0.74 1 0 0 0 2 0 Sv 08/01/2007 Brewers W, 8-5 0.73 1 2 0 0 1 0 Sv 08/08/2007 Braves W, 4-3 0.72 1 2 0 0 0 1 Sv 08/18/2007 Nationals W, 7-4 0.7 1 0 0 0 1 1 Sv 04/12/2007 Phillies W, 5-3 0.68 1 1 0 0 0 0 Sv 06/08/2007 Tigers W, 3-0 0.68 1 0 0 0 2 0 Sv 07/15/2007 Reds W, 5-2 0.67 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 07/25/2007 Pirates W, 6-3 0.65 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 05/08/2007 Giants W, 4-1 0.63 1 0 0 0 2 0 Sv 04/03/2007 Cardinals W, 4-1 0.6 1 0 0 0 0 0 Sv 05/29/2007 Giants W, 5-4 0.58 1 0 0 0 2 1 05/02/2007 Marlins W, 6-3 0.55 1 1 0 0 0 0 Sv 09/02/2007 Braves W, 3-2 0.45 1 2 1 1 0 0 Sv 08/15/2007 Pirates W, 10-8 0.37 0.2 1 0 0 1 0 Sv 06/20/2007 Twins L, 2-6 0.33 1 0 0 0 1 0 07/07/2007 Astros W, 5-3 0.27 1 1 0 0 0 0 Sv 07/05/2007 Astros W, 6-2 0.22 1 0 0 0 2 1 05/25/2007 Marlins W, 6-2 0.18 1 2 1 1 2 1 04/28/2007 Nationals W, 6-2 0.16 1 2 0 0 2 0 08/03/2007 Cubs W, 6-2 0.11 1 2 0 0 0 0 08/05/2007 Cubs W, 8-3 0.11 1 1 0 0 1 0 08/12/2007 Marlins W, 10-4 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 0 05/19/2007 Yankees W, 10-7 0.09 1 2 1 1 2 0 05/27/2007 Marlins W, 6-4 0.08 1 1 1 1 2 0 Sv 08/21/2007 Padres W, 7-6 0.07 1 1 1 1 2 1 W 04/09/2007 Phillies W, 11-5 0.06 1 0 0 0 2 0 06/29/2007 Phillies W, 5-2 0.06 1 1 0 0 2 1 04/01/2007 Cardinals W, 6-1 0.04 1 2 0 0 0 0 05/16/2007 Cubs W, 8-1 0.04 1 0 0 0 0 0 04/21/2007 Braves W, 7-2 0.03 1 0 0 0 0 1 08/24/2007 Dodgers W, 5-2 0.02 1 3 1 1 1 0

sharpie Sep 06 2007 08:23 AM

Willie Collazo in yesterday's crappy game probably entered the list way above the bottom few.

Gwreck Sep 06 2007 11:33 AM

Other strange ones: The 1-0 victories on 4/29/07 (at WAS) and 6/23/07 (vs. OAK). Most puzzling perhaps because one would think that a. Not a whole lot of points earned by the offense; and b. Even if the starting pitcher got 6, there wasn't a whole point available for pitching a scoreless inning to end the game?

metsmarathon Sep 06 2007 01:17 PM

i've actually gone in and reevaluated how i award schaeffer points, particularly to relievers. i've significantly upped the proprietary marathon points for saves, and given a little nudge to inherited runners stranded, among other more subtle differences... as i looked at my voting for the year i began to realize that marathon points in a save get suppressed by the higher total points seen in a win. more positive contributors mean each individual contribution is lessened when the whole is normalized to a maximum of 10 points. so a contribution such as a save should be inflated, almost artificially, to correct for this. using my old system, billy was the 12th best met, just ahead of moises alou. using my new system, he's up to 9th best, just ahead of shawn green. see: Player old rank new rank difference old points new points difference Wright 1 1 - 123.1 124.7 1.6 Reyes 2 2 - 96.3 90.7 (5.6) Beltran 3 3 - 93.0 89.9 (3.1) Glavine 4 4 - 83.6 83.9 0.3 Delgado 5 6 (1) 80.0 74.9 (5.1) OHernandez 6 5 1 76.4 76 (0.4) Maine 7 7 - 67.7 71.8 4.1 Perez 8 8 - 60.4 62.2 1.8 LoDuca 9 11 (2) 48 47.7 (0.3) Green 10 10 - 46.7 49.6 2.9 Sosa 11 13 (2) 46 43.8 (2.2) Wagner 12 9 3 43.1 57.5 14.4 Alou 13 15 (2) 40.7 37.7 (3.0) Heilman 14 14 - 37.3 38.3 1.0 Feliciano 15 12 3 36.7 46.8 10.1 Schoeneweis 16 16 - 34.3 37 2.7 Easley 17 19 (2) 29.2 26.5 (2.7) Mota 18 18 - 27.5 27.2 (0.3) Smith 19 17 2 27.1 28.1 1.0 Sele 20 21 (1) 23.5 24.5 1.0 Gotay 21 20 1 23.5 25.4 1.9 Castro 22 22 (1) 22.8 21.7 (1.1) Milledge 23 23 - 20.6 18.9 (1.7) Chavez 24 25 (1) 20.4 18.2 (2.2) Valentin 25 24 1 19.4 18.4 (1.0) Castillo 26 27 (1) 16.5 14.6 (1.9) Anderson 27 28 (1) 13.5 12.4 (1.1) Gomez 28 29 (1) 13.4 12.4 (1.0) Burgos 29 26 3 12.6 14.8 2.2 Newhan 30 30 - 9.8 10.4 0.6 Pelfrey 31 31 - 8.8 10.3 1.5 Ledee 32 32 - 5.8 5.9 0.1 Lawrence 33 33 - 5.6 5.9 0.3 Franco 34 34 - 5.2 5.7 0.5 Conine 35 35 - 2.1 2.2 0.1 Ambres 36 37 (1) 1.6 1.7 0.1 DiFelice 36 36 - 1.6 2 0.4 Martinez 38 38 - 1.4 1.2 (0.2) Vargas 38 40 (2) 1.4 0.8 (0.6) Adkins 40 39 1 1 1 - Alomar 41 41 - 0.8 0.7 (0.1) Johnson 42 42 - 0.3 0 (0.3) Ahernandez 43 42 1 0 0 - Padilla 43 42 1 0 0 - Park 43 42 1 0 0 - Sanchez 43 42 1 0 0 - Urdaneta 43 42 1 0 0 - Williams 43 42 1 0 0 - (thru 4 sept 07)

Johnny Dickshot Sep 06 2007 01:38 PM

]...points in a save get suppressed by the higher total points seen in a win... I think that's the whole thing. And because Wagner's most often showing up in close, winning games, I would guess he's also "punished" by heavy rewards to the offensive player who makes the difference. Lower than Easley seems low, but I don't think a different closer does much better or much worse. Maybe 12 is where he belongs.

Edgy DC Sep 06 2007 01:42 PM

Lower than Easley seems butt low. He's a legitimate All-Star!

metsmarathon Sep 06 2007 02:14 PM

win shares has him tied for 8th place with perez & green at 9 win shares apeice. damian easley sits right behind the trio with 8 win shares. he's the 5th best met pitcher and 9th overall met with a VORP of 20, and his WARP3 is the 6th best overall. somewhere between 8th & 10th best met sounds the most appropriate to me for billy. i mean, are loduca, green, sosa, alou really better than him this year? i'm not so sure... sounds like a fun discussion for the end of the year!

Edgy DC Sep 06 2007 02:26 PM

I wanna hear from M.E.T.B.O.T.

metsmarathon Sep 06 2007 05:41 PM

m.e.t.b.o.t. needs a little help with his html.