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IGT Game 162. Mets/Fish. This is it.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 09:48 AM

Glad we get a half hour headstart on Philly. Let's get up early and make 'em sweat. Marlins Hanley SS Uggla 2B Hermida RF Cabrera 3B Ross LF Jacobs 1B Treanor C De Aza CF Dontrelle P =blue]Mets Reyes SS Castillo 2B Wright 3B Beltran CF Alou LF Delgado 1B Castro C Milledge RF Glavine P Lets. Go. Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 09:53 AM

I think it's time for a pre-game singalong. Meet the Mets Meet the Mets Step right up and greet the Mets... Come on everybody! Join in!

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 09:54 AM

Hanley Ramirez lives up to his post-game comment and is in the lineup.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 09:55 AM

Bring your kiddies Bring your wife Guaranteed to have the time of your life!

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 10:03 AM

Because the Mets are really socking the ball Knocking the homeruns, over the wall.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 10:04 AM

Olivo gets suspended for 5 games but appeals so it doesn't take effect until next year.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:00 AM

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:02 AM

So, which is it?

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:04 AM

Looks to be an electric atmosphere at the game today, Gary says it's playoff like plus. Lets go Mets, I'd like nothing more than several more IGT's with you lot.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:08 AM

Likewise, brudda. I've got radio only. Howie just said the Mets put a picture of the skirmish from yesterday on the wall with and wrote "Don't wake the sleeping Mutts. Someone must pay" underneath it. I feel like there's going to be a rumble after school today behind the football field.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:11 AM

And we are underway.

TransMonk Sep 30 2007 11:11 AM

Keith said he doesn't really miss the game, but this is a game he'd like to play in. Let's Go Mets!!!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:14 AM

Great! Ump already is a factor. Get out there Willie! Say something!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:17 AM

Lets get two and get outta this.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:18 AM

Radio boys say West is stingy early with the corners. First and third one out. First big hurdle. C'mon, Tommy.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:20 AM

Fucking fuck.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:20 AM

OOOOHHHHH NOOOOOOO!

Nymr83 Sep 30 2007 11:21 AM

4-0 Florida. I'll be watching the Jets.

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:21 AM

What a let down already.

seawolf17 Sep 30 2007 11:21 AM

And the TV is off. See you in '08, Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 11:22 AM

I guess this isn't meant to be easy. GO NATIONALS!

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:22 AM

Nymr83 wrote: 4-0 Florida. I'll be watching the Jets. Have a nice time. Strikes and outs. And lots of runs. Lets Go Mets.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:23 AM

These have not been bad pitches.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:25 AM

I guess we get to see who the REAL Met fans are folks. Hey, we knew we had to score some runs today.

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:26 AM

Gotta pull Glavine now, Keith keeps talking about good pitches, I'm not buying that.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:28 AM

Glavine's pitching his way out of a Met uni. Strikes and outs. NOW!!!

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:29 AM

Have to go vomit. BRB.

TransMonk Sep 30 2007 11:29 AM

It's like a goddamn nightmare.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:31 AM

Anyone who isn't watching. Leading off the game, Ramirez was hit by a pitch, but the home plate ump did not see it. Now that ball had to hit something, because it never got to Castro, so everyone in the world figured it hit the knob of the bat and was a strike. So when Ramirez walked, we all had him at ball 3. But home plate ump Joe West had him at ball four, because he must have called that pitch a ball. And even though the Mets were not clear on what happened there at the time, Willie did not even step out to question it. And thats all for Glavine, who I don't think was pitching as horrible as this inning indicates, and his day is wasted. Damn.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 11:31 AM

I knew it wouldn't be easy, but I figured Glavine would give us at least 1 inning. Bu-bye, Glavine. Good luck in Atlanta next year.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:31 AM

9 batters. 5 hits. 2 walks. 1 hit batter. 1 out. Jesus H. Christ.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 11:31 AM

They sure didn't waste any time bursting my bubble. Well, it ain't over 'till it's over. Let's hang in there kiddies.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:33 AM

I hope the Mets have heated up their hitting sticks. Nice K by Sosa. Big.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 11:36 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 11:37 AM

Hey Z, post some more in the forum right now so I don't have to look at Tom Glavine in your avatar. I'd just rather not think of him at this point the rest of today. Thanks

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:36 AM

Yeah, so that's not good.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:36 AM

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:36 AM

Five runs I could have lived with but this just seems impossible now.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:38 AM

Meet the Nats Meet the Nats Step right up and greet the Nats...

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 11:38 AM

Sonofa... 7 runs back before we even bat!

apmorris Sep 30 2007 11:39 AM

Lets go Jets? (listening to the fan from cali)

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:41 AM

Back to Hanley and his first AB and the controversy surrounding the count, I noticed something wrong before Gary said it but yet no one went out to protest, what happened there?

DocTee Sep 30 2007 11:41 AM

Thanks for ruining my birthday, tom. you suck

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:42 AM

Willis will challenge us. We will score more than 7 runs.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:42 AM

metirish wrote: Back to Hanley and his first AB and the controversy surrounding the count, I noticed something wrong before Gary said it but yet no one went out to protest, what happened there? Zvon, page 2: ]Anyone who isn't watching. Leading off the game, Ramirez was hit by a pitch, but the home plate ump did not see it. Now that ball had to hit something, because it never got to Castro, so everyone in the world figured it hit the knob of the bat and was a strike. So when Ramirez walked, we all had him at ball 3. But home plate ump Joe West had him at ball four, because he must have called that pitch a ball. And even though the Mets were not clear on what happened there at the time, Willie did not even step out to question it. And thats all for Glavine, who I don't think was pitching as horrible as this inning indicates, and his day is wasted. Damn.

cooby Sep 30 2007 11:44 AM

On the bright side, the Mets have nine innings to come back

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:45 AM

Thanks Seo and Zvon.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:45 AM

cooby wrote: On the bright side, the Mets have nine innings to come back I like your style, coob.

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:46 AM

Only third time in Mets history that they have given up seven runs in the first inning

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 11:47 AM

You've. Got. To. Be. Fucking. Kidding. Me.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 11:48 AM

We can score seven runs off these stanky fishsticks with a little will no problem. Can we keep them from scoring?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:48 AM

OMG, Reyes flies out on a full count and they boooo him. I typed somewhat of an explaination a page back Meterish. Ramirez was hit by that pitch, no doubt. How it was not called a strike.....I have no idea. The ball never got to Castros glove! It had to hit something.And it was RIGHT in the strikezone, and Ramirez was leaning over the plate. It hit him on his wristband, leaving no mark. I expected Willie to pop out and ask what the hells goin on? Glavine wanted to know. Castro wanted to know. If I was the manager, I would have wanted a detailed description as to what the umpire was doing there, pitch by pitch through that at bat. We get one back. 7-1

metirish Sep 30 2007 11:49 AM

The come back starts..........come on ...

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:52 AM

Delgado hit by pitch, and it looks bad. Right in the wrist as he tried to check his swing. Bat broke. Wrist? Hope not.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:53 AM

Kid Carsey wrote: Can we keep them from scoring? We shall see Kid. I don't know, but I can dream.

Nymr83 Sep 30 2007 11:55 AM

Castro hits a deeeep fly to left with the bases loaded, but it wasn't deep enough. no score in philly. Jets-D and Thomas Jones looking good early but the offense has yet to put a scoring drive together

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:56 AM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*Z pulls out a clump of hair. Castro misses a granny by >< that much. In Philly: Rollins singles, steals second, steals third, and Utley drives him in with a sac fly.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 11:56 AM

God damn it, I thought it was gone and we were back. Motherfucker. Let's go, Sosa, put up a zero.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 11:56 AM

Wow. When that ball jumped off Castro's bat I had visions of 7-5. Oh well. 7-1 is better than 7-0. Phillies have scored in the first. 1-0

Zvon Sep 30 2007 11:57 AM

Delgado leaves the game. Carp. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. CARP. !

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 11:57 AM

How many posts does Z need before I don't have to look at Glavine?

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:00 PM

Down goes Delgado. Can we go a year before going after Teixeira in the 2008 offseason? I think we can live without Delgado next year.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:00 PM

There's a game on now.

Nymr83 Sep 30 2007 12:02 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: There's a game on now. yeah, on channel 2. (and theres a philly game if you have the extra innings package which i sadly do not)

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:03 PM

Sosa Ks the side in the 2nd! Nice. I hear a buzz in my ear....what is that pestering buzz? Oh, hi Steve, how r ya?

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:04 PM

Sosa brings it. Good. Let's try for two this inning, guys.

metirish Sep 30 2007 12:04 PM

Willis is all over the gaff, lets hit the crap outta him.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:04 PM

Nymr83 wrote: ="A Boy Named Seo"]There's a game on now. yeah, on channel 2. (and theres a philly game if you have the extra innings package which i sadly do not) I get it, man. Watch your game. Nice inning, Jorge. Lets get some more.

DocTee Sep 30 2007 12:05 PM

LET'S

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:08 PM

Fuck bunting right here. I'm okay with a pinch hitter. Let's try to get a big inning.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:09 PM

GO

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:11 PM

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:13 PM

I would really like to see Jose Reyes' flyball/groundball/line drive splits for the month. C'mon, David. Poke one here.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 12:13 PM

Just getting here. Can't freaking believe it. Way to suck out all the momentum, Tommy. And seeing that on the out-of-town scoreboard can only motivate the Phils. But we know we can pile up some runs on these guys. C'mon, Mets!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:14 PM

Reyes flies out and again is boood. Amazin'. How does a fan booo anyone on his team during a game like this? Even when your guy is floundering, especially then, you have to get behind him and help him up. Eyyyeeecurumba. Darling says they are booing cuz Reyes hit it in the air. Its true that we should see Reyes trying to hit the ball on the ground, but I think he gives this crowd way to much credit as to their thought processes.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:16 PM

Bad spot to K there Mr. Wright. Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:16 PM

. . . and we miss yet another chance. Let's go, Orlando!

metirish Sep 30 2007 12:16 PM

Not taking those two out chances .

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:20 PM

Delgado. Fractured left hand. Ugh.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 12:21 PM

What happened to Delgado?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:22 PM

WHAT FUCKIN GAME ARE YOU PLAYIN MILLEDGE!????? He played that like a golfer walking down the fairway! Willis gets a triple. Unbelievable. 0'Hern gets out of it with a pop up.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:23 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: What happened to Delgado? Hit by a pitch.

TransMonk Sep 30 2007 12:23 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: What happened to Delgado? Hit by pitch in the left hand.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:23 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: What happened to Delgado? Hit on the hand with a pitch by Willis in the first inning. Stayed in to run, but lifted for Conine for defense. He was clearly in serious pain.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 12:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 12:28 PM

They're calling it broken already on CW11, don't know if it's been xray'd.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 12:28 PM

They just said on the radio a broken hand!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:29 PM

Yep, it's officially broke. The way Willis is pitching we should have at least 3 back. Time to do something guys.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:29 PM

What happened to Delgado?

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:30 PM

Zvon wrote: How does a fan booo anyone on his team during a game like this? Even when your guy is floundering, especially then, you have to get behind him and help him up. This isn't scholastic sports here Z. If a player or players don't appear to be trying, then yes, they do deserve the reaction the fans are giving them.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:32 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 12:35 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Zvon"] How does a fan booo anyone on his team during a game like this? Even when your guy is floundering, especially then, you have to get behind him and help him up. This isn't scholastic sports here Z. If a player or players don't appear to be trying, then yes, they do deserve the reaction the fans are giving them. Hey Steve, I hear there's a good football game on.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 12:33 PM

Way to get Castro, up and in.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:34 PM

Howard singles with bases loaded in Philly. 3-0 there

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:35 PM

Bases juiced for Dookie. Time to walk the walk Paulie, if your gonna talk that talk. And Willis is being pulled.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 12:35 PM

I booed Reyes sorry ass for not running yesterday. Inexcusable not to hustle. Milledge lolligagged in right to let Dontrelle go to third instead of a double. I'd boo that too. (too lazy to go back and see what you two are talking about though) (taping Jets game, I'd appreciate an IGT blackout of any discussion as I plan on watching later without the commercials)

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 12:35 PM

Do you pull Lo Duca for Anderson or Green here?

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:37 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: I booed Reyes sorry ass for not running yesterday. Inexcusable not to Absolutely. I did too, and I don't regret it.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 12:37 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Do you pull Lo Duca for Anderson or Green here? I think I would. Either guy.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:38 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Do you pull Lo Duca for Anderson or Green here? It's only the third. We need to get something out of everything for the rest of this game. Dookie bats.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 12:39 PM

Paulie...

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM

8 LOB's in three innings. YAY TEAM!!!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Paulie... ...badly fooled. :(

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM

...looked uncomfortable up there.

metirish Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 12:43 PM

We have had plenty of chances to get back in this.

TransMonk Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM

8 LOB. This sucks.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:40 PM

I can't imagine we're going to get many more of those. Unreal. We really, really, really, don't deserve to make the playoffs. Of course, neither did St. Louis last year . . .

Nymr83 Sep 30 2007 12:41 PM

EIGHT left on in 3 innings so far. Philly up 3-0 now not mentioning football for KC's sake

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 12:42 PM

Paulie's last at-bat as a Met?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:42 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: 8 LOB's in three innings. YAY TEAM!!! yea, that hurts. And losin Dads,....worse. Gah. Don't think things can get much worse though. There's that.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:43 PM

Nymr83 wrote: EIGHT left on in 3 innings so far. Philly up 3-0 now not mentioning football for KC's sake Ditto with the Padres.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:45 PM

Nats score a run. 3-1 there.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 12:46 PM

Z: >>>yea, that hurts. And losin Dads,....worse.<<< I have no idea what you're talking about.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:47 PM

Attaboy, Schoenweis! The bullpen wants to win today, offense. Do you?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:47 PM

="Kid Carsey"]Z: >>>yea, that hurts. And losin Dads,....worse.<<< I have no idea what you're talking about. Delgado. Even if we somehow turn this around, he's done for the season.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:50 PM

="Zvon"] ="Kid Carsey"]Z: >>>yea, that hurts. And losin Dads,....worse.<<< I have no idea what you're talking about. Delgado. Even if we somehow turn this around, he's done for the season. We've been playing sans Delgado all year anyway pretty much. Even when he was healthy!

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 12:51 PM

I wasn't aware that Delgado was Dads.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 12:51 PM

Not quite. Reyes swinging at two balls in a row up by his neck.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 12:52 PM

As far as the booing thing goes, yesterday I would have ripped into reyes BIGTIME for not running. Today when Milledge strolled after Willis's hit, I would have booded till i spit out a lung. But early in a big game like this, I would not boo my guy for getting his bat on the ball. And reyes pops up foul out. Ok, maybe there I would have yelled at him. Something like:

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2007 12:53 PM

The annoying thing about this game so far is that a small change in about 3 or 4 ABs and this score could just about be reversed. But, y'know ... it isn't.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:55 PM

Heh on another board posters are suggesting using Reyes as trade bait next season for a Halladay/Santana type pitcher Okay, I suggested Santana only because Doc seems to be injury prone.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 12:56 PM

This also had better be Tom Glavine's final game as a Met!

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 12:56 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: The annoying thing about this game so far is that a small change in about 3 or 4 ABs and this score could just about be reversed. But, y'know ... it isn't. Good point. We're still in this, but just barely.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2007 01:03 PM

. . . and now, we're not, so much. What an embarassing end to the season this is turning out to be.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:05 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 01:05 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Heh on another board posters are suggesting using Reyes as trade bait next season for a Halladay/Santana type pitcher Okay, I suggested Santana only because Doc seems to be injury prone. You're welcome to keep that conversation over there. Last thing I care about is what the other boards are cranking about.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:05 PM

Giving up more runs doesn't really fit into my comeback plans.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:08 PM

Glavine's been knocked around his last three starts. Think he's hurt?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:08 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Heh on another board posters are suggesting using Reyes as trade bait next season for a Halladay/Santana type pitcher Okay, I suggested Santana only because Doc seems to be injury prone. You mean there's another board you could be hanging at? You don't have to feel the need to multi-task just for us. That board sounds more like your crowd Steve. The only other player who could even possibly fill Reye's shoes, and well I'm loath to say, is playing short right now for those damn fish. And Reyes should grow to be as good as him, if not better. Rollins has shown he's a top 3 NL shortstop too. But Reyes is STILL a top 3 NL shortstop, even with the emergence of Hardy and Tulowitzki. You don't deal a top 3 NL shortstop Steve. Reyes will grow. Go pass that on to that other board.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:09 PM

Old, tired, and washed up, more likely. OE: answering mgim.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:11 PM

Rally around Joe Smith.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:11 PM

Crane Pool Forum > all others Crane Pool Forum even on a bad day > mowing the lawn! (I'll do it later)

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:13 PM

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:13 PM

Darling said Glavine was keeping his ball down and off the strikezone, and doing that well, but his pitches didn't have enough bite on em to keep the opposing bats off em. That may have been spot on. Glavine did not groove any pitches, but they were so easy to reach I think I could have hit him today if I just kept my eyes on the ball.

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2007 01:14 PM

Now there's a slogan for you; 'Visit the Carne Pool Forum, it beats mowing the lawn'

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:15 PM

Alou swinging at sewage.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:16 PM

I'd knock Green in there for Conine now.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:18 PM

Might be Conine's last at-bat. Nice career.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 01:24 PM

Zimmerman just got called out on strikes on a pitch off the plate. Moyer's getting the calls.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 01:30 PM

F'in Austin Kearns, who hit those 3 run homers against the Mets, just hit into a DP with 2 on.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:32 PM

Mets game in dis thread. Grat job by Smith. They're bringing in Feliciano for one batter. Why not double-switch in Green?

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:32 PM

We need A Lil' Bit o' Soul if we ever did.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 01:32 PM

Sorry Edgy.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:35 PM

Radio guys implying that the umps are not quite being fair to the Mets.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:36 PM

And lets get going NOW!

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:38 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Radio guys implying that the umps are not quite being fair to the Mets. I think West's confusing call set the whole tone for Glavine's outing, but I'm sure many will say that Glavine was not going to have it today in any case. I think if that 1st at bat went differently, this game goes differently. And ya know what? Dat'sAbaseball.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:40 PM

Milledge lacking the soul there. New pitcher. Let's jump all over him.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:44 PM

Gary, who are these "Jets" you speak of?

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:46 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 01:54 PM

Dickhead friend just called me, sparing me I suppose an hour or two of more agony later. Still a dickhead. OE: about the Jets

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:46 PM

Some Florida nobody giving a hustle lesson.

Rockin' Doc Sep 30 2007 01:48 PM

Reyes pop up for the third out of the sixth inning. Wow, there's a surprise. Marlins 8 Zombies 1 through six innings at Shea.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:48 PM

Rollins drives in a run with his 20th triple of the year.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:49 PM

Seems like the offense is already in clean-out-the-locker mode.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 01:49 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Reyes pop up for the third out of the sixth inning. Wow, there's a surprise. Marlins 8 Zombies 1 through six innings at Shea. Wonder if the Astros would want him for Oswalt?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:51 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: Dickhead friend just called me, sparing me I suppose an hour or two of more agony later. Still a dickhead. Any one who's a real friend of mine knows not to call me now. The real good ones will give me a day or two, unless I call them 1st. Most friends I have down here are Phils fans too.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:51 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 01:53 PM

Mets have three more innings to take cuts and Gary Cohen is sticking a fork in them? C'mon Gary, I know ya lurk from time to time ... Lil' Bit o' Soul.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 01:52 PM

There is no way you give up on Reyes this young. No way. He and Wright are the franchise foundation. You build around them, not give up on them.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 01:52 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Rockin' Doc"]Reyes pop up for the third out of the sixth inning. Wow, there's a surprise. Marlins 8 Zombies 1 through six innings at Shea. Wonder if the Astros would want him for Oswalt? You would trade Reyes for an arm? Ha! What a fool.

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 01:54 PM

Just give me a sip.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 01:56 PM

Zvon wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] ="Rockin' Doc"]Reyes pop up for the third out of the sixth inning. Wow, there's a surprise. Marlins 8 Zombies 1 through six innings at Shea. Wonder if the Astros would want him for Oswalt? You would trade Reyes for an arm? Ha! What a fool. Not AN ARM, one of the top 5 in the game.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 01:56 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: There is no way you give up on Reyes this young. No way. He and Wright are the franchise foundation. You build around them, not give up on them. Reyes has lost a lot of that luster the last couple of months.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 01:57 PM

Stop sniping at each other, we'll have months and months to argue that kind of stuff.

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2007 01:59 PM

If you want to trade Reyes go start a trade Reyes thread, tell us what you'd do, and we can hash it over for the next 5 months.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 02:01 PM

="SteveJRogers"] ="Zvon"] ="SteveJRogers"] ="Rockin' Doc"]Reyes pop up for the third out of the sixth inning. Wow, there's a surprise. Marlins 8 Zombies 1 through six innings at Shea. Wonder if the Astros would want him for Oswalt? You would trade Reyes for an arm? Ha! What a fool. Not AN ARM, one of the top 5 in the game. Arms, no matter how top, can go down in a snap of your fingers fool. BROWSER SAYS: minimize me please. go to alternate board ;)

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:00 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: Stop sniping at each other, we'll have months and months to argue that kind of stuff. Apologies. I should not have taken the bait.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 02:04 PM

Billy's pissed. Go to page two, second to last paragraph, second half of the paragraph. http://nymag.com/news/sports/38353/

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 02:06 PM

No need to apologize, I was making a general comment more to Zvon and Rogers and wasn't even thinking of you. Everyone's disappointed, bickering happens.

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:08 PM

I wanna bitch at the bitching, mere words can't express how I feel about this.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:09 PM

As horrible as Glavine was, we're not going to win many games with 1 run. I'm sure that first inning sucked the wind right out them, but hell, you gotta have a gut check an go at 'em.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 02:10 PM

If you know anything about me, you know I don't type for the sake of typing and I'm not one for bickering. Something had to be said, I said it. And your right Kid. Steve, go start another thread for your carp. Howard just hit one out in Philly. Upper deck.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 02:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 02:12 PM

meti: >>>mere words can't express how I feel<<< I have some words for ya. Historical. Unprecedented. Sucks.

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:11 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: I have some words for ya. Historical. Unprecedented. Sucks. Diabolical

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:14 PM

Just announced 3.8 million fans this year, a franchise record.

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:15 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just announced 3.8 million fans this year, a franchise record. It's the fans and money they won't be getting that they will be counting.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 30 2007 02:15 PM

7.6 million pieces of broken heart.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:20 PM

="A Boy Named Seo"]7.6 million pieces of broken heart.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:23 PM

Zvon wrote: ="A Boy Named Seo"]7.6 million pieces of broken heart. g> And that just about sums up how I feel. To be so high yesterday and so low today...

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:29 PM

I have to confess, I never even remotely believed it would come to this. We always seemed to keep out heads above water, and the Braves sweep made me think we would get it done when it was crunch time. And even yesterday, I thought "And here we come. No way we actually piss this season away." I just can't believe it.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:29 PM

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:31 PM

I reserve the right to change that ^ if somehow the Phils lose.

Kid Carsey Sep 30 2007 02:31 PM

Fork inserted. Catch ya'll when I get out of rehab.

DocTee Sep 30 2007 02:31 PM

ugly

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:32 PM

Distraught.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:32 PM

I have a toned down version of this graphic if you prefer, Edge.

Rockin' Doc Sep 30 2007 02:34 PM

Turn out the lights, the party's over.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:34 PM

One more out in Philly. Damn.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:35 PM

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:35 PM

Radio won't even name a player of the game. They gave it to the fans who showed up.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:36 PM

Kind of amazing that our pen allowed one run in 8.2 innings.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 02:36 PM

MGIM--I'm like you--this is unimaginable. Was...

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 02:36 PM

Officially over.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 02:37 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 30 2007 02:38 PM

Zvon--You get my Schaefer votes for MVP--Most Valuable Poster. You even made me laugh today.

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:37 PM

Heartbreaking, seeing fans at Shea young and old crying is tough.Sport can be cruel.

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:38 PM

Ron - In a season that Glavine won his 300th game this is the game that Mets fans will remember.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 02:39 PM

="bmfc1"]Zvon--You get my Schaefer votes for MVP--Most Valuable Poster. You even made me laugh today. Someone make me laugh. Please. Ill take your wife,.........whatever. May as well fire off my last sign.

Rockin' Doc Sep 30 2007 02:40 PM

I resigned myself to this fate after the loss to Washington on Tuesday night at Shea. I was quite honestly more surprised by the team actually winning a game yesterday, than I am by today's loss.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 02:42 PM

I guess I was prepared for this. I saw it coming since two weeks ago today. There have been a few times in the past two weeks when I've allowed myself to become a little optimistic, but, well, I smelled a stink on this team and I guess my nose knows. I wish I was wrong!

OlerudOwned Sep 30 2007 02:43 PM

Hockey season. Hot damn!

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 02:43 PM

I hate to say this, but I have a feeling the Mets will not be anywhere close to contention next year. Teams rarely, if ever, come back from a regular season meltdown like this (I'm not counting postseason meltdowns like the 2004 Yankees) and in some cases it can take over a decade just to return to contention.

TransMonk Sep 30 2007 02:44 PM

This team just kept the inevitable from happening tomorrow or Tuesday or a week from Tuesday. This ballclub was just not good enough, and it's been evident for weeks if not months.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 02:44 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I guess I was prepared for this. I saw it coming since two weeks ago today. There have been a few times in the past two weeks when I've allowed myself to become a little optimistic, but, well, I smelled a stink on this team and I guess my nose knows. I wish I was wrong! SJR and YSG simillarity scores go up.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 02:46 PM

Urrrgggh! THAT, of all things, has ruined my day!

metirish Sep 30 2007 02:47 PM

I don't see the simillarity but it's a laugh.

Rockin' Doc Sep 30 2007 02:51 PM

I see virtually no similarity between Yancy having lost faith in this teams ability to make the post season two weeks ago and SJR stating that he lost faith in them for the season and further more doubts they can contend in the future, possibly for the next decade. Yancy was just acknowledging and accepting the harsh reality of the Mets collapse. SJR has completely overreacted to the effects of this late season collapse. No similarity at all in my view.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 02:54 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: I see virtually no similarity between Yancy having lost faith in this teams ability to make the post season two weeks ago and SJR stating that he lost faith in them for the season and further more doubts they can contend in the future, possibly for the next decade. Yancy was just acknowledging and accepting the harsh reality of the Mets collapse. SJR has completely overreacted to the effects of this late season collapse. No similarity at all in my view. Phillies wouldn't be back into contention untill 1976, it would take the Red Sox untill 1986 to climb back to the top of the AL East. Maybe the 51 and 62 Dodgers are your best examples (back-to-back NL champs followed The Miracle of Coogan's Bluff and the 63 Dodgers won the World Championship) of teams that did bounce back. Do you see this sorry bunch doing that in 2008?

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 02:55 PM

Somebody at FAN has a perverse sense of humor. Before the highlights, they usually have a player that did well in the game say "This is X and you're listening to Mets Extra....." Today, they used Glavine.

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2007 02:56 PM

So in other words, it matters ... except when it doesn't.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 02:57 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: So in other words, it matters ... except when it doesn't. Well when its two examples out of how many? Yeah it does. What did the Cubs do after 1969? What did the Giants do after 1993?

Zvon Sep 30 2007 03:01 PM

Yancys a Met fan with a good sense of smell. I dunno what to make of you Stevesky, with your horrible attitude and evolving similar personality. You used to be a poster Id be eager to read. No more my friend. Okay, enuff of this personal attack shit. Sorry, had to say that. I'm all vented. I'm trying to think of an up side, and all I can come up with is last time the Phils were in the post season I went to my only world series game. I know people who know people around here. But sad truth is, the ticket could come to me free of charge and I wouldn't wanna go. I'd probly tear it up.

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2007 03:04 PM

How did the 2007 Red Sox do? You're going through your usual tactic, SJR, of deciding on a conclusion first then cherry-picking only that evidence which supports the pre-determined answer and ignoring or discounting anything that doesn't. Again, if you want to discuss a topic you've got the entire board and 5 months to make your case. But at least be prepared to bring something to the table aside from some knee-jerk reaction with little forethought and questionable evidence.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 03:13 PM

http://www.springtrainingonline.com/teams/ny_mets_3.htm

Zvon Sep 30 2007 03:16 PM

bmfc1 wrote: http://www.springtrainingonline.com/teams/ny_mets_3.htm Im gonna go to that March 6th game against the TBA's at TBA Field.

bmfc1 Sep 30 2007 03:17 PM

TBA has a better bullpen.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 03:19 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: How did the 2007 Red Sox do? You're going through your usual tactic, SJR, of deciding on a conclusion first then cherry-picking only that evidence which supports the pre-determined answer and ignoring or discounting anything that doesn't. Again, if you want to discuss a topic you've got the entire board and 5 months to make your case. But at least be prepared to bring something to the table aside from some knee-jerk reaction with little forethought and questionable evidence. Its not cherry picking when its few and far between And yes the Sox last year gave up after the sweep by the Yankees in Fenway, but that isn't one of the most historic collapses in baseball history. No one puts them on the same pedestal as the 64 Phillies, 78 Red Sox, 07 Mets.

Gwreck Sep 30 2007 05:14 PM

Crowd was terrible today. Lots of shameful behavior, early exists, inappropriate booing (ie. booing Mota after 2 scoreless innings). Mets declined to take the opportunity anywhere during or after the game to thank the fans for the 3,850,000 tickets sold (and consequently millions of dollars made by the Mets) this year. Putting up the "get home safe" graphic only and not even bothering to thank the fans was a major oversight. Some token thanks was necessary.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2007 05:17 PM

An apology would have been even better.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 05:17 PM

Gwreck wrote: Crowd was terrible today. Lots of shameful behavior, early exists, inappropriate booing (ie. booing Mota after 2 scoreless innings). Mets declined to take the opportunity anywhere during or after the game to thank the fans for the 3,850,000 tickets sold (and consequently millions of dollars made by the Mets) this year. Putting up the "get home safe" graphic only and not even bothering to thank the fans was a major oversight. Some token thanks was necessary. I agree, but this was not 1985 or 1987. This probably will go down as the most hated season in Met history. It would seem silly for them to do any of the usual Fan Appreciation Day festivities at Shea. They do have Thanks on Mets.com though.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2007 05:18 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: An apology would have been even better. HA!

Edgy DC Sep 30 2007 08:25 PM

Leave history to history. Collapsing sucked in any context.

DocTee Sep 30 2007 08:35 PM

No way this is worse than 1993. No way.

metsmarathon Sep 30 2007 08:37 PM

steve, waah. carry on.

Elster88 Sep 30 2007 08:40 PM

DocTee wrote: No way this is worse than 1993. No way. agreed And I wasn't around then, but how were the late seventies and early eighties? I can't imagine it was fun when the managerial genius Joe Torre was around.

metsmarathon Sep 30 2007 08:43 PM

the art howe years sucked worse than this one. the pre-vee years sucked worse than this one. and 88 left a more bitter taste of what could've been. and maybe i'm alone here, but yesterday redeemed this season for me. that was a hell of a thrill, and to even enter into this day with a chance, from where they were two days ago, was thrilling. this team has a lot of restructuring and mirror-looking and maturing and manning up, but i don't hate it one bit, tho it frustrates the hell out of me. so maybe that's your word. frustrating. but not hated.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 30 2007 09:08 PM

metsmarathon wrote: the art howe years sucked worse than this one. the pre-vee years sucked worse than this one. and 88 left a more bitter taste of what could've been. and maybe i'm alone here, but yesterday redeemed this season for me. that was a hell of a thrill, and to even enter into this day with a chance, from where they were two days ago, was thrilling. this team has a lot of restructuring and mirror-looking and maturing and manning up, but i don't hate it one bit, tho it frustrates the hell out of me. so maybe that's your word. frustrating. but not hated. Perfect. That sums it up.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 10:24 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="DocTee"]No way this is worse than 1993. No way. agreed And I wasn't around then, but how were the late seventies and early eighties? I can't imagine it was fun when the managerial genius Joe Torre was around. Ha. He didn't quite have the team he has had during his Yankee run. I was around during the late 70's (even tho I cold shoulder'd em for a few years when they traded Seaver) and the early 80's. Thats one reason I can temper this from a personal perspective. When you become a diehard fan of a mediocre (or suckass) team, and you decide you are theirs and they are yours, all else that will happen throughout your experience with that team will be acceptable. It becomes like life, with its ups and downs. You deal with it. Im not saying you won't hate or boo or be unhappy with this team at times. But you will be loyal.

Zvon Sep 30 2007 10:34 PM

So did any of ya's look hard at my opening 'BELIEVE" piece a work? I challenge you to find your avatar in the crowd Elster. Please don't tell me to remove it.;)