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2007 Collapse 7 votes
Kenny Rogers walking in the winning run, 1999 6 votes
Tom Seaver traded to Cincy 3 votes
Can't top the Dodgers, 1988 2 votes
The Bonilla Years, 1992-95 1 votes
Generation K goes bust 0 votes
1973, can't take out the A's up 3-2 0 votes

Farmer Ted
Oct 01 2007 09:51 AM

Your saddest moment or era as a Mets fan. Let it out. Talk it over. We need to heal.

HahnSolo
Oct 01 2007 09:53 AM

My saddest NYM moment was coming up short in 1985. Since that wasn't an option, I'll take 2007.

Iubitul
Oct 01 2007 09:54 AM

Losing Seaver was the most devastating to me, no question about it. I was 14 - 'nuff said.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 01 2007 09:56 AM

Seaver, then 85.

I'm not even sad about this year's collapse. Pissed, sure, disappointed plenty, but it's not like they broke my heart. They just didn't care about me.

HahnSolo
Oct 01 2007 09:59 AM

I should point out I was a little too young to fully appreciate the ramifications of the Seaver trade, or I'm sure it would be up there.

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2007 10:02 AM

This is something I don't want to rank.

I'm mostly sick, because something just doesn't make sense.

metirish
Oct 01 2007 10:04 AM

Everything on that list before 1999 was before my time as a fan, gotta go with 2007 although sad in not the word I would use(even though I think I did use it),pissed, hurt and cheated are words I would use.

soupcan
Oct 01 2007 10:08 AM

'88 for me.

That team should've been a dynasty.

metsmarathon
Oct 01 2007 10:44 AM

i'd've included yadier fucking molina and subsequently voted for him.

metsguyinmichigan
Oct 01 2007 11:03 AM

The Seaver trade was devestating for many reasons. In fact, it almost can't compare to the other things, which happened on the field.

Trading Seaver was a major "F--- you" to the fans, as management was more interested in showing a player who was boss than doing what was best for the team. After that, we knew the team would suck, suck hard and suck for a long time.

And worse, it came at a time when the bleeping Yankees were getting good again and I swear the city turned.

I was 13, Seaver was my hero and I took this very personally. I get angry just thinking about it today.

metsguyinmichigan
Oct 01 2007 11:07 AM

And since I'm venting...

Last year hurt worse. I think we all kind of knew from August on that this team wasn't going to win the World Series. They just didn't have the horses in the pen.

But last year was our year. That team was built to kill. There is no way -- none -- that it should have lost to the Cardinals. That series shouldn't have gone five game.

Props to the Cards for getting it done -- and taking the series, too. But we should have taken them out.

Valadius
Oct 01 2007 12:02 PM

Last year was our year. We definitely were better last year.

I'm 20. I was in the womb during the '86 World Series, so I have never seen a Mets World Championship. I first became a baseball fan, and a Mets fan, at the beginning of the Bobby V years - with Baerga and Olerud. 1997 was the first Mets season I followed.

1999 was a wild, wild ride. We tried to come back against the Braves, but of course, there was Kenny Fucking Rogers.

But then there was 2000. 2000 made up for 1999. If not for Armando Benitez, we might have won in 2000.

However, 2006-2007 was the reverse of 1999-2000. Instead of a promising team building on that promise, it was a promising team that fell at the finish line. So I'd say this year's collapse was the saddest moment in my Mets fan experience.

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2007 12:09 PM

I'm still disapointed at how 1999 is hung on Rogers.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 01 2007 01:16 PM

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. I've even heard (or read) some saying that Rogers was "cowardly" to issue that walk.

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2007 01:22 PM

I'm not keen on hanging 2000 on Benitez also.

We've got to move away from scapegoating, period.

Nymr83
Oct 01 2007 01:22 PM

kenny fucking rogers wins hands down for me.... throw the fucking ball over the fucking plate you fucking piece of shit... i don't care if he hits it 500 feet, it beats ending the season on ball 4.

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2007 01:24 PM

You do so care if he hits it 500 feet.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 01 2007 01:30 PM


BRAVES 11TH: ROGERS REPLACED DUNSTON (PITCHING); Williams
doubled to left; Boone out on a sacrifice bunt (first
unassisted) [Williams to third]; C. Jones was walked
intentionally; Jordan was walked intentionally [C. Jones to
second]; A. Jones walked [Williams scored, C. Jones to third,
Jordan to second]; 1 R, 1 H, 0 E, 3 LOB. Mets 9, Braves 10.


That was a miserable inning. I'm sure Rogers wasn't trying to not give up a grand slam. A grand slam is no more damaging than a walk in that situation. He had to be trying for a ground ball or a strikeout. He failed, but that doesn't make him a coward or a fool. He was put into a very tough situation when he was called on to issue two intentional walks. (Was Brian Jordan with two on that much scarier than Andruw Jones with the bases loaded? Can we petition to undo that second intentional walk somehow? If Larry Craig can try to withdraw his guilty plea, can we try to withdraw an intentional walk?)

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2007 01:32 PM

i also call bullshit on that second intentional walk.

Neyer did at the time also.

Zvon
Oct 01 2007 02:21 PM

You would think it would be Seaver, cause it was the only thing that made me turn my back on the team for awhile.
But that was the front office I was dissin. That was Michael Donald Grant I hated.
Not anything the guys on the field did.

Without a doubt I choose Rogers.
Not for what he did,...thats baseball.

For the way he walked off that mound before the pitch was even in the catchers glove (so it seemed), like he had a cab to catch.

Like he was a nine to fiver and the clock just hit five and he couldn't wait to get out of that office and jump on that train.

He should have stood there and howled at the moon, like I was doing at that moment.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 01 2007 02:26 PM

Zvon wrote:

He should have stood there and howled at the moon, like I was doing at that moment.


Well, now wouldn't THAT have been bizarre?

I was watching that game with Greg Goossen, and I was too scared to go outside and howl.

Zvon
Oct 01 2007 02:39 PM

="Yancy Street Gang"]
="Zvon"]
He should have stood there and howled at the moon, like I was doing at that moment.


Well, now wouldn't THAT have been bizarre?

I was watching that game with Greg Goossen, and I was too scared to go outside and howl.


Well, you have to take into consideration that
I'm a werewolf when I'm not fighting crime.

Kid Carsey
Oct 01 2007 04:58 PM

Out of the choices, I took 2007, just to vote and participate.

I also have to give a write-in mention of the Yankees humping each other
on our infield in 2000 was pretty freakin' miserable for me. I'll get over the
funk I'm in today quicker than that, I think.

cooby
Oct 01 2007 05:00 PM

My saddest Mets moment was the 2000 WS when Jay Payton's throw hit Jorge Posada and bounced away along with any remaining hope.

And the poor guy got charged with an error, to boot.

It took me days to get over that.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 01 2007 05:22 PM

Was that when Payton threw so hard he flipped over? That was a sad moment.

For me the 5 seconds of the Zeile-Timo debacle in Game 1 unfolded in gruesome slow motion and put me in the blackest mood.

cooby
Oct 01 2007 05:54 PM

Yep. The poor guy practically turned himself inside out making that throw and got charged with an error, thought I guess that's what the rules say.