Nov 05 2007 03:29 PM
Torre disappointing young Edgy by donning his Yankee six, instead of the nine he wore with the Mets, Braves, Cards, and, I assume, through most of his playing career.
Make a clean break, Joe.
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Jim Tracy Gone Again - Manager/GM changes
| Centerfield Oct 11 2007 09:13 AM |
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The bigger news is that Jon Schuerlholz looks to be stepping down.
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| metirish Oct 11 2007 09:40 AM |
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That's big news, there will be teams beating down his door to hire him.
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| Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 09:40 AM |
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That makes sense of why they broke so decisively with Andruw Jones, rather than have a protracted negotiation unlikely to go anywhere. This way Wren doesn't have to start his wreign as the guy who lost Jones.
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| TransMonk Oct 11 2007 09:49 AM |
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Frank Wren
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| Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 10:32 AM |
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Here's a nightmare: the MFYs fire Cashman and hire Schuerholz.
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| TransMonk Oct 11 2007 10:51 AM |
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I suppose if Schuerholz were to leave Atlanta it would make it even easier for Glavine to return to the Braves if he wanted to. No more dancing around that alledged rift between the two.
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| Valadius Oct 11 2007 11:10 AM |
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Holy crap! What's the deal here, with Schuerholz, Jocketty, and Terry Ryan all stepping down at once?
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| Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 11:14 AM |
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Sounds like normal turnover.
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| Valadius Oct 11 2007 11:20 AM |
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Except they're all very-long-tenured executives. I just think that's a little odd. GMs who've been with clubs 5 or 6 years is one thing. But three GMs with a decade-plus for their teams all going at the same time I find a bit strange.
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| Iubitul Oct 11 2007 11:21 AM |
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That was my first thought, too...
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| metsguyinmichigan Oct 11 2007 11:55 AM |
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Supposedly he's staying with the Braves, but in some other job. But, we'll see...
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| sharpie Oct 11 2007 01:22 PM |
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He's staying on as team President.
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| TransMonk Oct 17 2007 05:11 PM |
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Stoneman to act as a consultant for Angels after stepping down as GM:
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| sharpie Oct 19 2007 08:40 AM |
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Trey Hillman, currently manager of those crazy Ham Fighters of Nippon to be named manager of those crazy City Royals of Kansas.
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| Benjamin Grimm Oct 19 2007 08:48 AM |
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That leaves two possible managing destinations for Joe Torre: St. Louis and Pittsburgh.
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| Edgy DC Oct 19 2007 08:49 AM |
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My prediction: Vice President and Super Designated Personnel Development Guy for Baltimore.
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| TransMonk Oct 19 2007 09:35 AM |
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Trey Hillman's Fighters just knocked Bobby V's Marines out of the Japanese playoffs.
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| Valadius Oct 22 2007 02:02 PM |
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Tony La Russa is staying in St. Louis.
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| Fman99 Oct 22 2007 02:53 PM |
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You can't fight ham, you can only hope to contain it. Seriously, could we get a MLB team to change its name to the Ham Fighters? I'd buy that merchandise.
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| metsguyinmichigan Oct 22 2007 06:43 PM |
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Actually, the name of the team is Fighters, and it's owned by Nippon Ham. (Japanese teams are named after the owners instead of cities. Think Anehiser-Busch Cardinals, the Tribune Cubs or Senile Egomaniac Yankees.)
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| Rockin' Doc Oct 22 2007 08:29 PM |
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Metsguy - "...Anehiser-Busch Cardinals, the Tribune Cubs or Senile Egomaniac Yankees."
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| Valadius Oct 30 2007 08:33 AM |
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Torre's headed to the Dodgers.
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| Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2007 08:52 AM |
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Source?
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| metirish Oct 30 2007 08:57 AM |
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Val from D.C. or Joey from Ozone Park. LA Times reporting that the Dodgers are in negotiations with Torre, yet they have not fired Little......disgraceful treatment.
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| Edgy DC Oct 30 2007 10:51 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 30 2007 11:27 AM |
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I don't remember what kind of manager Tony Peņa was for the Royals, only that he had a great first season before crashing and burning.
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| Valadius Oct 30 2007 11:18 AM |
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Here's the source:
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| Edgy DC Oct 30 2007 11:29 AM |
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They cite the Journal-News, who also say Mattingly is jumping with Torre, as the root source.
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| Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2007 11:34 AM |
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What is he, crazy? Isn't he concerned about his Yankee legacy? Why is he agreeing to manage the Toledo Mud Hens?
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| Edgy DC Oct 30 2007 11:40 AM |
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That really puts the lie behind Hank's bluff, doesn't it? Is he going to play that card with Pettitte, Posada, etc. --- implying that they have a lesser claim to a plaque insignia, and maybe won't be welcome back for Oldtimey Day or some shit.
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| Valadius Oct 30 2007 12:50 PM |
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What shocks me more than anything is that Mattingly would leave the Yankees. The only reason I can see for him joining the Dodgers is that his son is currently in their farm system.
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| Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2007 12:52 PM |
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Raging wild fires aside, Southern California can be a pleasant place to live.
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| seawolf17 Oct 30 2007 01:21 PM |
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Why is that shocking? They basically told him to go eff himself.
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| Frayed Knot Oct 30 2007 02:23 PM |
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Or that he truly wants to manage some day and the best way to achieve that is to keep your hand in the game. Having a star status with one team was enough to get him his first dugout job after following his playing career with a decade or more out on his farm in Indiana. But now that they've taken the job he wanted and given a 3-year contract to someone a baseball generation younger than him it's not like anyone else is going to chase after him unless he's a working baseball guy.
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| metirish Oct 30 2007 08:08 PM |
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Grady Little resigns and Torre and Dodgers agree on terms and are finalizing the coaching staff which will include Mattingly.
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| Edgy DC Oct 30 2007 08:14 PM |
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Fucking wow.
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| metirish Oct 30 2007 08:26 PM |
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Am i missing something here , when did it become OK to negotiate a contract when the current manager was still in place? Seems like Little got treated very poorly here, insulting even.
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| Edgy DC Oct 30 2007 08:58 PM |
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It's always been OK. It's just never been cool. So people don't openly do it.
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| Rockin' Doc Oct 30 2007 09:00 PM |
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Grady Little tells the Dodgers, "You can't fire me, I quit." Good for him.
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| Valadius Nov 01 2007 03:42 PM |
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It's finally official:
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2007 12:08 PM |
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Here's something interesting I saw. Dodger managers W-L pct at the time they were fired/retired:
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| smg58 Nov 02 2007 12:41 PM |
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I'm amazed by Alston and LaSorda. Two managers in 42 years? Wow.
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| sharpie Nov 05 2007 09:05 AM |
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John Russell (who?) hired as Pirates' new manager.
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| metirish Nov 05 2007 09:20 AM |
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Never heard of him either, served as the Pirates third base coach under McClendon ( was fired along with him )and was the Phillies AAA team manager the past two seasons.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 05 2007 09:53 AM |
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I remember him as a backup catcher for the Phillies.
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| Valadius Nov 05 2007 11:32 AM |
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Torre in Dodgers uniform LIVE right now.
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| Fman99 Nov 05 2007 11:35 AM |
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Talk about a no-win situation. The worst front-office in MLB and not one pitcher you'd want on your team. Hey at least the ballpark is nice there.
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| Valadius Nov 05 2007 11:41 AM |
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Tom Gorzelanny and Ian Snell are pretty good.
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| Edgy DC Nov 05 2007 12:11 PM |
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Yeah, those two guys rocked the Casbah last year. They shocked the monkey and passed the duchy at the same time.
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| Fman99 Nov 05 2007 02:26 PM |
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I forgot about them. Matt Capps also comes to mind. I guess I'm more inclined to think of them as the type of team that trades for Matt Morris or signs Derek Bell to a fat FA contract.
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| Edgy DC Nov 05 2007 03:29 PM |
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| MFS62 Nov 05 2007 03:47 PM |
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The press conference was held in center field at Chavez Ravine.
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