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The Ones That Got Away

Valadius Oct 11 2007 01:04 PM

Throughout Mets history, there have been a number of draft choices that we've made that chose not to sign with us. I've gone through the data courtesy of Baseball-Reference.com and compiled a list of the best players that slipped through our fingers. Imagine what Mets history would have been like had we signed these players when we had the chance. Ron Cey Burt Hooton John Tudor Roger Clemens Rafael Palmeiro Matt Williams John Wetteland John Olerud Scott Erickson Todd Jones Mark Grudzielanek Darren Dreifort Rick Helling Darin Erstad Billy Koch Matt LeCroy Scott Proctor Aaron Rowand Garrett Atkins David DeJesus Mickey Rivers Bud Black Marty Barrett Kal Daniels

Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 01:07 PM

Its a two-way street, though. The best player we ever had was drafted --- and signed, and forfeited on a technicality --- initially by the Braves.

Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 01:58 PM Re: The Ones That Got Away Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2007 02:07 PM

I think we can break down that list a bit. [u:a0e16c35f3]HOF-level[/u:a0e16c35f3] Roger Clemens Rafael Palmeiro [u:a0e16c35f3]excellent[/u:a0e16c35f3] John Olerud Ron Cey Matt Williams (on edit) [u:a0e16c35f3]good[/u:a0e16c35f3] John Tudor Burt Hooton Mickey Rivers (on edit) John Wetteland [u:a0e16c35f3]fair[/u:a0e16c35f3] Todd Jones Mark Grudzielanek Darin Erstad Bud Black Marty Barrett [u:a0e16c35f3]feh:[/u:a0e16c35f3] Kal Daniels (on edit) Scott Erickson Darren Dreifort Rick Helling Billy Koch Matt LeCroy Scott Proctor [u:a0e16c35f3]too soon to tell[/u:a0e16c35f3] Aaron Rowand Garrett Atkins David DeJesus

HahnSolo Oct 11 2007 02:01 PM

Kal Daniels probably goes in the feh category. And I'd probably bump Matt Williams over Mickey Rivers.

Vic Sage Oct 11 2007 02:06 PM

you're right on all counts. With Kal Daniels, i was just thinking of somebody else. With Williams, i'd forgotten how long he'd played. I remembered him as a great player whose career was cut short, but he actually played till he was 37. Certainly his peak value was greater than the ole gozzle head.

Edgy DC Oct 11 2007 02:14 PM

Is feh an official category? Will MLB hold an annual feh Game over the feh Break? Will Topps release a special feh Collection of cards?

MFS62 Oct 12 2007 08:02 AM

Here's a different spin on this. I'm not sure whether it belongs in this thread, its own, or the Rico Brogna thread. At the end of each season, I used to come up with a roster of players who had been the property of the Mets and compare what they did with what the Mets did that year. Some years, the real team was better, some years it wasn't. I hadn't done it in a while. After this season, I got the USA Today and there were the season's stats. So I did it again. Caveats: I did my calculations by hand - I was sitting in a Macdonalds at the time. The stats may not have included the NL playoff game. I wrote don the stats of one player (79 AB)but forgot to write down the player's name. Fielding skill not included, just whether they played acertain position. I suck at posting charts Rules: 162 game decisions by the pitchers. Similar IP and AB I could cherry pick the players, not all were included. (Hey, its my game. I make the rules.) Here is the roster I found: SP AJ Burnett Kasmir Byrd Bannister Traschel MP DiNardo (he pitched out of the bullpen as wel as started) Bell Bradford Petit Oliver RP Dotel Owens Ring Isringhausen C Piazza Flores IF Jacobs Wigginton Mora Scuttaro Keppinger Kent Matsui OF Bay Cameron Nady Payton T.Perez Pagan Here is the comparison: Pitching: W Mets 88 ex-Mets 90 L Mets 74 ex-Mets 72 IP Mets 1452.1 ex-Mets 1446 sv Mets 39 ex-Mets 41 H Mets 1415 ex-Mets 1362 ER Mets 687 ex-Mets 594 BB Mets 570 ex-Mets 493 K Mets 1134 ex-Mets 953 ERA Mets 4.26 ex-Mets 3.69 Players: AB Mets 5605 ex-Mets 5403 R Mets 804 ex-Mets 737 H Mets 1543 ex-Mets 1455 2B Mets 294 ex-Mets 295 3B Mets 27 ex-Mets 26 HR Mets 177 ex-Mets 178 RBI Mets 761 ex-Mets 753 SB Mets 200 ex-Mets 46 AVG Mets .275 ex-Mets .269 Conclusion: Damn! It was close. Later

Gwreck Oct 12 2007 11:37 AM

I think Cameron and Nady are mutually exclusive.