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Born a Met/Died a Met

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2007 01:29 PM

Born a Met is those who's first MLB game was in the blue & orange Died a Met is the less obvious final game as a Met Then there is the rare group who did both. One might even say that they're in the Krane Pool. I just got to thinking about this realizing that Conine, Sele, and perhaps Glavine. Alomar & DiFelice will join the 'Died' list this (really next) year. Meanwhile Gomez, Ambres & Smith were newly hatched Mets in '07, If UMDB doesn't have lists like these for all-timers I bet it could come up with them fairly quickly. Might make for an interesting feature. Willie Randolph, for instance, is a D-a-M.

Edgy DC Oct 12 2007 01:32 PM

Yogi died a Met. Actually buried in Flushing, I believe.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2007 01:34 PM Re: Born a Met/Died a Met

Frayed Knot wrote: If UMDB doesn't have lists like these for all-timers I bet it could come up with them fairly quickly. Might make for an interesting feature. Willie Randolph, for instance, is a D-a-M. I could probably come close. I could get a list of players who played for the Mets in their final season. But it would include guys like Cleon Jones and George Foster who made a brief stop elsewhere (in both cases, the White Sox) before meeting their demise.

Edgy DC Oct 12 2007 01:38 PM

The White Sox: gateway to oblivion for Met leftfielders.

seawolf17 Oct 12 2007 01:44 PM

"Wait... what?"

Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2007 01:51 PM

Some big names on this list. It even starts with a Hall-of-Famer. (As I said above, this list has at least a few names that don't belong. I mentioned Cleon Jones and George Foster. Craig Swan is another who fits that category. So is Lee Mazzilli.) 1962 Richie Ashburn 1962 Ed Bouchee 1962 Elio Chacon 1962 Harry Chiti 1962 Ray Daviault 1962 John DeMerit 1962 Sammy Drake 1962 Larry Foss 1962 Joe Ginsberg 1962 Rick Herrscher 1962 Dave Hillman 1962 Sherman Jones 1962 Clem Labine 1962 Jim Marshall 1962 Bob Miller 1962 Vinegar Bend Mizell 1962 Herb Moford 1962 Joe Pignatano 1962 Gene Woodling 1963 Cliff Cook 1963 Chico Fernandez 1963 Pumpsie Green 1963 Joe Hicks 1963 Gil Hodges 1963 Charlie Neal 1963 Grover Powell 1963 Don Rowe 1963 Ted Schreiber 1963 Norm Sherry 1963 Sammy Taylor 1963 Marv Throneberry 1964 Craig Anderson 1964 Ed Bauta 1964 Larry Burright 1964 Steve Dillon 1964 Wayne Graham 1964 Tim Harkness 1964 Jay Hook 1964 Willard Hunter 1964 Rod Kanehl 1964 Ron Locke 1964 Al Moran 1964 Amado Samuel 1964 Tom Sturdivant 1964 Bill Wakefield 1965 Yogi Berra 1965 Jim Bethke 1965 Bobby Klaus 1965 Frank Lary 1965 Bob Moorhead 1965 Dennis Musgraves 1965 Tom Parsons 1965 Warren Spahn 1965 Carl Willey 1966 Choo Choo Coleman 1966 Larry Elliot 1966 Shaun Fitzmaurice 1966 Bob Friend 1966 Bill Hepler 1966 Roy McMillan 1966 Larry Miller 1966 Billy Murphy 1966 Danny Napoleon 1966 Gordie Richardson 1966 Dick Rusteck 1967 Chuck Estrada 1967 Bill Graham 1967 Bob Hendley 1967 Jerry Hinsley 1967 Johnny Lewis 1967 Al Luplow 1967 Joe Moock 1967 Hal Reniff 1967 Al Schmelz 1967 Bob Shaw 1967 Ralph Terry 1967 Nick Willhite 1968 Jerry Buchek 1968 Bill Connors 1968 Phil Linz 1969 Ed Charles 1969 Jessie Hudson 1969 Al Jackson 1969 Les Rohr 1970 Don Cardwell 1971 Bob Aspromonte 1971 Francisco Estrada 1971 Al Weis 1972 Bob Rauch 1973 Lute Barnes 1973 Jim Beauchamp 1973 Greg Harts 1973 Phil Hennigan 1973 Jerry May 1973 Willie Mays 1973 Brian Ostrosser 1974 Jack Aker 1974 Jim Gosger 1974 Bob Miller 1974 Rich Puig 1974 Dave Schneck 1974 Randy Sterling 1974 John Strohmayer 1974 George Theodore 1975 Bob Gallagher 1975 Brock Pemberton 1975 George Stone 1975 Randy Tate 1976 Billy Baldwin 1976 Leon Brown 1976 Jay Kleven 1976 Ken Sanders 1977 Luis Alvarado 1977 Bob Apodaca 1977 Rick Baldwin 1977 Leo Foster 1977 Pepe Mangual 1977 Felix Millan 1977 Ray Sadecki 1977 Joe Torre 1978 Mike Bruhert 1978 Mardie Cornejo 1978 Butch Metzger 1978 Bob Myrick 1978 Paul Siebert 1979 Bruce Boisclair 1979 Dock Ellis 1979 Sergio Ferrer 1979 Gil Flores 1979 Ed Kranepool 1979 Wayne Twitchell 1980 José Cardenal 1980 Kevin Kobel 1980 Elliott Maddox 1980 Luis Rosado 1981 Mike Cubbage 1981 Mike Marshall 1981 Dyar Miller 1981 Dave Roberts 1982 Tom Hausman 1982 Randy Jones 1982 Phil Mankowski 1983 Mike Bishop 1983 Mark Bradley 1983 Scott Holman 1983 Mike Howard 1984 Brent Gaff 1984 Ron Hodges 1984 Jerry Martin 1984 John Stearns 1984 Craig Swan 1984 Dick Tidrow 1984 Mike Torrez 1985 Larry Bowa 1985 Kelvin Chapman 1985 Ron Gardenhire 1985 Rusty Staub 1986 Bruce Berenyi 1986 Tim Corcoran 1986 George Foster 1986 John Gibbons 1987 Bob Gibson 1987 Clint Hurdle 1988 Gene Walter 1989 Manny Hernandez 1989 Phil Lombardi 1989 Lee Mazzilli 1990 Chris Jelic 1990 Dave Liddell 1990 Orlando Mercado 1990 Jeff Musselman 1990 Tom O'Malley 1990 Lou Thornton 1990 Alex Treviño 1991 Blaine Beatty 1991 Tom Herr 1991 Terry McDaniel 1991 Garry Templeton 1991 Kelvin Torve 1992 Tim Burke 1992 D. 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Dozier 1992 Tom Filer 1992 Pat Howell 1992 Rodney McCray 1992 Willie Randolph 1992 Steve Springer 1992 Joe Vitko 1993 Kevin Baez 1993 Mike Draper 1993 Wayne Housie 1993 Jeff Innis 1993 Jeff Kaiser 1993 Ced Landrum 1993 Tito Navarro 1993 Doug Saunders 1993 Frank Tanana 1993 Chico Walker 1993 Mickey Weston 1994 Juan Castillo 1994 Mauro Gozzo 1994 Eric Hillman 1994 Jonathan Hurst 1994 Jim Lindeman 1994 Roger Mason 1994 Jeff McKnight 1994 Kevin McReynolds 1994 Frank Seminara 1995 Mike Birkbeck 1995 Don Florence 1996 Rob MacDonald 1996 Kevin Roberson 1997 Joe Crawford 1997 Takashi Kashiwada 1997 Carlos Mendoza 1997 Kevin Morgan 1997 Gary Thurman 1997 Rick Trlicek 1998 Todd Haney 1998 Wayne Kirby 1998 Ralph Milliard 1998 Mel Rojas 1998 Jim Tatum 1999 Jermaine Allensworth 1999 Brian McRae 2000 Eric Cammack 2000 Jon Nunnally 2001 Darryl Hamilton 2001 Brett Hinchliffe 2001 Brian Rose 2001 Jorge Toca 2002 McKay Christensen 2002 Mark Johnson 2002 Satoru Komiyama 2002 Mark Little 2002 Tony Tarasco 2002 John Valentin 2003 Edwin Almonte 2003 Jay Bell 2003 David Cone 2003 Joe DePastino 2003 Mike Glavine 2003 Graeme Lloyd 2003 Jason Middlebrook 2003 Prentice Redman 2003 Jason Roach 2003 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 2003 Pat Strange 2003 Mo Vaughn 2003 Matt Watson 2004 Craig Brazell 2004 Brian Buchanan 2004 Wilson Delgado 2004 Jeff Duncan 2004 Danny Garcia 2004 Karim Garcia 2004 Ricky Gutierrez 2004 Joe Hietpas 2004 Orber Moreno 2004 José Parra 2004 Grant Roberts 2004 Esix Snead 2004 Shane Spencer 2004 Tom Wilson 2004 Todd Zeile 2005 Manny Aybar 2005 Brian Daubach 2005 Felix Heredia 2005 Kaz Ishii 2005 Dae-Sung Koo 2005 Mike Matthews 2005 José Offerman 2005 Juan Padilla 2005 José Santiago 2005 Shingo Takatsu 2005 Eric Valent 2005 Gerald Williams 2006 Bartolome Fortunato 2006 Jeremi Gonzalez 2006 José Lima 2006 Eli Marrero 2006 Duaner Sanchez 2006 Alay Soler 2006 Michael Tucker

Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2007 01:55 PM

And here are the births. Save caveats apply. A player who debuted with another team and then came to the Mets in the same season would be incorrectly included here. (Can't think of any offhand, but maybe I'll spot one or two once I read the list.) 1962 Ray Daviault 1962 Rick Herrscher 1962 Jim Hickman 1962 Willard Hunter 1962 Rod Kanehl 1962 Ed Kranepool 1962 Bob Moorhead 1963 Larry Bearnarth 1963 Steve Dillon 1963 Ron Hunt 1963 Cleon Jones 1963 Al Moran 1963 Grover Powell 1963 Don Rowe 1963 Ted Schreiber 1963 Dick Smith 1964 Jerry Hinsley 1964 Bobby Klaus 1964 Gary Kroll 1964 Ron Locke 1964 Dennis Ribant 1964 Johnny Stephenson 1964 Darrell Sutherland 1964 Bill Wakefield 1965 Jim Bethke 1965 Kevin Collins 1965 Rob Gardner 1965 Greg Goossen 1965 Bud Harrelson 1965 Tug McGraw 1965 Dennis Musgraves 1965 Danny Napoleon 1965 Dick Selma 1965 Ron Swoboda 1966 Shaun Fitzmaurice 1966 Bill Hepler 1966 Billy Murphy 1966 Dick Rusteck 1966 Nolan Ryan 1967 Ken Boswell 1967 Bill Denehy 1967 Danny Frisella 1967 Bob Heise 1967 Jerry Koosman 1967 Joe Moock 1967 Amos Otis 1967 Les Rohr 1967 Al Schmelz 1967 Tom Seaver 1967 Don Shaw 1967 Billy Wynne 1968 Duffy Dyer 1968 Mike Jorgensen 1968 Jim McAndrew 1969 Jack DiLauro 1969 Wayne Garrett 1969 Rod Gaspar 1969 Gary Gentry 1969 Jessie Hudson 1969 Bob Johnson 1969 Bobby Pfeil 1970 Tim Foli 1970 Rich Folkers 1970 Ted Martinez 1970 Ken Singleton 1970 Leroy Stanton 1971 Buzz Capra 1971 Francisco Estrada 1971 Jon Matlack 1971 John Milner 1971 Don Rose 1971 Charlie Williams 1972 Lute Barnes 1972 Tommy Moore 1972 Joe Nolan 1972 Bob Rauch 1972 Dave Schneck 1972 Brent Strom 1972 Hank Webb 1973 Bob Apodaca 1973 Greg Harts 1973 Ron Hodges 1973 Brian Ostrosser 1973 Craig Swan 1973 George Theodore 1974 Benny Ayala 1974 Bruce Boisclair 1974 Nino Espinosa 1974 Ike Hampton 1974 Brock Pemberton 1974 Rich Puig 1974 Randy Sterling 1975 Rick Baldwin 1975 Roy Staiger 1975 Randy Tate 1975 Mike Vail 1976 Leon Brown 1976 Jay Kleven 1976 Lee Mazzilli 1976 Bob Myrick 1977 Steve Henderson 1977 Roy Lee Jackson 1977 Dan Norman 1977 John Pacella 1977 Luis Rosado 1977 Jackson Todd 1978 Butch Benton 1978 Juan Berenguer 1978 Dwight Bernard 1978 Mike Bruhert 1978 Mardie Cornejo 1978 Alex Treviño 1979 Neil Allen 1979 Kelvin Chapman 1979 Jesse Orosco 1979 Jeff Reardon 1979 Mike Scott 1980 Wally Backman 1980 Hubie Brooks 1980 Scott Holman 1980 Ed Lynch 1980 José Moreno 1980 Mario Ramirez 1980 Mookie Wilson 1981 Ron Gardenhire 1981 Brian Giles 1981 Greg Harris 1981 Mike Howard 1981 Terry Leach 1981 Tim Leary 1981 Charlie Puleo 1981 Ray Searage 1982 Carlos Diaz 1982 Brent Gaff 1982 Rick Ownbey 1982 Gary Rajsich 1982 Ronn Reynolds 1982 Doug Sisk 1982 Walt Terrell 1982 Rusty Tillman 1983 Mike Bishop 1983 Ron Darling 1983 Mike Fitzgerald 1983 José Oquendo 1983 Darryl Strawberry 1984 Billy Beane 1984 John Christensen 1984 Wes Gardner 1984 John Gibbons 1984 Dwight Gooden 1984 Ross Jones 1984 Kevin Mitchell 1984 Calvin Schiraldi 1984 Herm Winningham 1985 Rick Aguilera 1985 Terry Blocker 1985 Lenny Dykstra 1985 Bill Latham 1985 Roger McDowell 1985 Randy Myers 1986 Rick Anderson 1986 Kevin Elster 1986 Ed Hearn 1986 Stan Jefferson 1986 Barry Lyons 1986 Dave Magadan 1986 John Mitchell 1987 Mark Carreon 1987 Tom Edens 1987 Jeff Innis 1987 Gregg Jefferies 1987 Keith Miller 1987 Randy Milligan 1987 Al Pedrique 1988 Dave West 1989 Blaine Beatty 1989 Julio Machado 1989 Jeff McKnight 1989 Kevin Tapani 1989 Wally Whitehurst 1990 Kevin Baez 1990 Kevin Brown 1990 Chuck Carr 1990 Todd Hundley 1990 Chris Jelic 1990 Dave Liddell 1990 Darren Reed 1990 Julio Valera 1991 Terry Bross 1991 Chris Donnels 1991 Jeff Gardner 1991 Terry McDaniel 1991 Pete Schourek 1991 Doug Simons 1991 Anthony Young 1992 D. 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Dozier 1992 Eric Hillman 1992 Pat Howell 1992 Jeff Kent 1992 Ryan Thompson 1992 Joe Vitko 1993 Tim Bogar 1993 Jeromy Burnitz 1993 Mike Draper 1993 Kenny Greer 1993 Butch Huskey 1993 Bobby Jones 1993 Tito Navarro 1993 Doug Saunders 1993 Dave Telgheder 1994 Juan Castillo 1994 Jason Jacome 1994 Kelly Stinnett 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 1995 Jeff Barry 1995 Paul Byrd 1995 Alberto Castillo 1995 Reid Cornelius 1995 Don Florence 1995 Brook Fordyce 1995 Jason Isringhausen 1995 Aaron Ledesma 1995 Kevin Lomon 1995 Alex Ochoa 1995 Ricky Otero 1995 Robert Person 1995 Bill Pulsipher 1995 Pete Walker 1996 Mike Fyhrie 1996 Charlie Greene 1996 Jason Hardtke 1996 Rey Ordóñez 1996 Derek Wallace 1996 Paul Wilson 1997 Steve Bieser 1997 Joe Crawford 1997 Shawn Gilbert 1997 Takashi Kashiwada 1997 Cory Lidle 1997 Carlos Mendoza 1997 Kevin Morgan 1998 Benny Agbayani 1998 Mike Kinkade 1998 Jay Payton 1998 Jeff Tam 1998 Preston Wilson 1998 Masato Yoshii 1999 Octavio Dotel 1999 Terrence Long 1999 Melvin Mora 1999 Dan Murray 1999 Jorge Toca 1999 Vance Wilson 2000 Eric Cammack 2000 Jim Mann 2000 Timo Perez 2000 Jerrod Riggan 2000 Grant Roberts 2000 Jason Tyner 2001 Mark Corey 2001 Alex Escobar 2001 Dicky Gonzalez 2001 Jason Phillips 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 2002 Jaime Cerda 2002 Pedro Feliciano 2002 Satoru Komiyama 2002 Marco Scutaro 2002 Jae Seo 2002 Esix Snead 2002 Pat Strange 2002 Tyler Walker 2002 Ty Wigginton 2003 Edwin Almonte 2003 Jason Anderson 2003 Joe DePastino 2003 Jeff Duncan 2003 Danny Garcia 2003 Mike Glavine 2003 Jeremy Griffiths 2003 Aaron Heilman 2003 Prentice Redman 2003 José Reyes 2003 Jason Roach 2003 Matt Watson 2004 Heath Bell 2004 Craig Brazell 2004 Victor Diaz 2004 Bartolome Fortunato 2004 Joe Hietpas 2004 Jeff Keppinger 2004 Kaz Matsui 2004 David Wright 2004 Tyler Yates 2005 Tim Hamulack 2005 Anderson Hernandez 2005 Mike Jacobs 2005 Dae-Sung Koo 2005 Royce Ring 2006 Brian Bannister 2006 Philip Humber 2006 Lastings Milledge 2006 Henry Owens 2006 Mike Pelfrey 2006 Alay Soler 2007 Willie Collazo 2007 Carlos Gomez 2007 Carlos Muniz 2007 Joe Smith

SI Metman Oct 13 2007 04:12 PM

Scanning Yancy's list's briefly Names that died elsewhere on the death list: Craig Brazell (cup of coffee this year with KC), Frank Tanana (3 starts with the MFY) Graeme Lloyd (KC), Karim Garcia (Baltimore), Brian McRae (Col), Mel Rojas (3 short stints with teams in '99). Names on the list that were born elsewhere: Jeff Kent (played a few games with Tor)

G-Fafif Oct 15 2007 02:25 AM

Was not born a Met: Carlos Diaz Reid Cornelius Did not die a Met: Jeremi Gonzalez Brian Rose Tim Burke Tom Herr Alex Trevino Orlando Mercado Mike Torrez Jose Cardenal Wayne Twitchell Luis Alvarado Ken Sanders Don Cardwell Al Jackson Frank Lary Warren Spahn

Edgy DC Oct 15 2007 07:19 AM

D.J. Dozier was born a Mnnesota Viking, I think.

Iubitul Oct 15 2007 07:56 AM

D.J. Dozier was a Williamsport Bill:

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2007 07:58 AM

Check out the fresh PONYs. Only a matter of time before that brand makes a hip rebirth I would guess.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2007 08:04 AM

I swear I only suspected this was the case. ]Pony Makes a Slam Dunk Signs New York Knicks’ First Round Draft Pick SAN DIEGO (October 4, 2007)—Pony International is getting back in the game—of basketball. Today, the company announced that it has signed an endorsement agreement with Wilson Chandler, the New York Knicks’ 2007 first-round draft pick, for the re-launch of its performance basketball line for the fall ’07 season. “Wilson will be an excellent complement to the legacy of athletes that have endorsed Pony over the years,” Kevin Wulff, Pony president and CEO said. “He is an incredible talent with a knack for exciting fans with his dynamic athletic ability.” Chandler seems eager to don his first pairs of Ponys. “I couldn’t be more excited to wear Ponys on and off the court in New York,” he said. “Pony is a classic brand and I am honored to be wearing the Chevron.” This isn’t the first time Pony has been involved in professional sports. The brand, founded in 1972, was worn by prominent athletes such as basketball stars Spud Webb and David Thompson, soccer player Pelé, boxers Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, quarterback Dan Marino, baseball player Reggie Jackson and tennis player Tracy Austin. Chandler was the New York Knicks' first-round draft pick this year. “Wilson will be featured in a national advertising campaign that launches in October,” said Benjamin Woo, Pony’s vice president of marketing. “The campaign will run in magazines such as Sports Illustrated, ESPN, SLAM, STACK, Complex and many others.” Today’s announcement is a major step forward for Pony. After numerous ownership changes within the past year, the brand’s re-launch is in full swing. In June, Wulff told WSAToday, “Pony has a tremendous brand heritage. Now, we’re taking it back to where it was on the performance side.” The re-launch of Pony’s basketball line will include three key styles—the City Wings ’08, the Starter Mid ’08 and the Quix—modern performance athletic shoes that maintain their old-school attitude. Pony hopes the considerable buzz surrounding Chandler will boost its visibility. “Many experts consider Chandler to be the steal of the 2007 draft,” Pony public relations and sports marketing director Colin Brickley said. “An extremely promising hybrid-forward standing at 6’8”, he is a powerhouse with rare athleticism.” Chandler’s agent, Chris Grier Luchey of GCL Sports, added, “He is definitely the perfect caliber of player to create excitement around a legendary brand like Pony.”

Benjamin Grimm Oct 15 2007 08:05 AM

His head looks enormous.

Edgy DC Oct 15 2007 09:08 AM

Check out Mr. Pro's Pro's logo-free footware:

seawolf17 Oct 15 2007 10:00 AM

Really logo-free, or just airbrushed or black Sharpied logo-free?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2007 10:09 AM

Here's Tom rockin the Converse for the Red Sox:

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2007 11:11 AM

]Really logo-free, or just airbrushed or black Sharpied logo-free? For years the Mets required all-black shoes so any logos that did exist in those early days of logo-heavy shoes were blacked-out.

Elster88 Oct 16 2007 06:06 PM

We played the died a Met game a while ago. We all took a year and found out who played their last game that year, no?

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2007 09:39 PM

So what we need now is the intersection of those two lists, showing those who, as MLers, were Mets and only Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2007 06:06 AM

There might be some "born and died" guys who went somewhere else in between. (Lee Mazzilli almost fit that category. And Tom Seaver SHOULD have. I can't think of any actual examples off the top of my head, though.) I can get the list of pure Mets directly: Edwin Almonte Bob Apodaca Kevin Baez Rick Baldwin Lute Barnes Blaine Beatty Jim Bethke Mike Bishop Bruce Boisclair Craig Brazell Leon Brown Mike Bruhert Eric Cammack Juan Castillo Kelvin Chapman Willie Collazo Mardie Cornejo Joe Crawford Ray Daviault Joe DePastino Steve Dillon D. J. Dozier Mike Draper Jeff Duncan Francisco Estrada Pedro Feliciano Shaun Fitzmaurice Don Florence Brent Gaff Danny Garcia Ron Gardenhire John Gibbons Mike Glavine Carlos Gomez Greg Harts Aaron Heilman Bill Hepler Anderson Hernandez Rick Herrscher Joe Hietpas Eric Hillman Jerry Hinsley Ron Hodges Scott Holman Mike Howard Pat Howell Jessie Hudson Philip Humber Jeff Innis Chris Jelic Rod Kanehl Takashi Kashiwada Jay Kleven Satoru Komiyama Dae-Sung Koo Ed Kranepool Dave Liddell Ron Locke Terry McDaniel Carlos Mendoza Lastings Milledge Joe Moock Bob Moorhead Al Moran Kevin Morgan Carlos Muniz Billy Murphy Dennis Musgraves Bob Myrick Danny Napoleon Tito Navarro Brian Ostrosser Mike Pelfrey Brock Pemberton Grover Powell Rich Puig Bob Rauch Prentice Redman José Reyes Jason Roach Grant Roberts Les Rohr Luis Rosado Don Rowe Dick Rusteck Doug Saunders Al Schmelz Dave Schneck Ted Schreiber Joe Smith Esix Snead Alay Soler Randy Sterling Pat Strange Randy Tate George Theodore Jorge Toca Joe Vitko Bill Wakefield Matt Watson David Wright

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2007 07:23 AM

Cool. There's 101 of them, by my count, or about 12% of the total who ever suited up -- probably a bit higher than I expected. What's NOT unexpected is that most of them were real short-timers to the point where I'm guessing that at least half never even made it to the back-end of the CPF Rankings list. Of the ones who did get a handful of points here or there, I believe only Kranepool, Wright, Reyes, and (probably after this season) Heilman reside in the top 100.

Edgy DC Oct 18 2007 07:24 AM

And three of those aren't dead yet.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2007 07:31 AM

Well there looks to be 9 who are active and in the organization in one form or another: Wright, Reyes, Heilman, Feliciano, Milledge, Smith, Gomez, Pelfrey, Humber & Anderson Hernandez Of the long-timers, Kranepool obviously, and the much-maligned Ron Hodges get the longevity awards.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2007 07:36 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: Of the ones who did get a handful of points here or there, I believe only Kranepool, Wright, Reyes, and (probably after this season) Heilman reside in the top 100. Plus Jeff Innis, currently residing at #77 while trying to hold back the oncoming Pedro, Carlos, Aaron & Billy

Edgy DC Oct 18 2007 08:34 AM

It'll take more than four guys to knock him out of the top 100.