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Edgy DC
Oct 23 2007 12:11 PM

A lot of interesting stuff here, but a few things are glossed over.

(1) He writes of the Red Sox producing an inexpensive closer from their farm system as if its just a matter of choice. It's not, and the Sox sure have overspent in other places (and been willing to).
(2) He asks rhetorically if runs count for more in the ninth inning and leaves it open as if the answer is obvious, when its really worth exploring.
(3) He fails to drive toward the bottom line that you want a Forbes article to find. What is the value of a closer? How much should a team pay? What percentage of their overall budget? What percentage of thier bullpen budget?
(4) Does the usage that investment drives actually diminish the value of the investment?

I still don't think the 1988 A's are as much of a revolutionary moment as the consensus seems to suggest. As Miles Davis used to say, it's evolution, not revolution, baby.


Baseball
Myth Of The Closer
Tom Van Riper, 10.23.07, 11:15 AM ET


The 2007 World Series between the Boston Red Sox and Colorado Rockies should lay to rest one of the great myths of modern baseball: that a dominant "closer"--a high-priced pitching ace who enters a game in the final inning to nail down a victory--is a must-have for success.

Most major league clubs buy into the myth. The average team shells out $3.9 million a year for a closer, or 30% more than what a typical player makes. Eight closers made more than $6 million this season, led by the $10.5 million the New York teams pay for each of their ninth-inning specialists, Mariano Rivera of the Yankees and the Mets' Billy Wagner.

Most every major league team today designates one reliever as the ninth-inning specialist. The smart ones don't put a big premium on him. And the National League champion Rockies have something way more important--a deep bullpen that consistently keeps the opposition at bay over the final three or four innings. The team stands as Exhibit A for the wisdom of spreading money around the bullpen, rather than sinking most of it into one pitcher.

Rockies closer Brian Fuentes, who makes $3.5 million, sometimes shares ninth-inning duties with Manual Corpas. Fuentes takes just 29% of the team's total bullpen budget, leaving room for the club to invest in the quartet of Corpas, Jorge Julio, LaTroy Hawkins and Jeremy Affeldt. All five pitchers threw more than 50 innings of relief this season while combining for a 3.12 earned-run average. That's about a run per game better than the Yankees, a team that devotes 52% of its bullpen budget to Rivera.

In every one of Colorado's National League playoff games this year, the team built a lead after six innings and went on to win.

The American League champion Red Sox employ a more traditional closer in young fireball Jonathan Papelbon. But the operative word there is "young." By turning to their minor league system for talent rather than shelling out eight figures for an established veteran, Boston got themselves a top closer for $425,000 a year.

Like the Rockies, the money they saved went toward quantity. The four Sox relievers who pitched at least 50 innings this year--Papelbon, Mike Timlin, Hideki Okajima and Kyle Snyder--registered a major league best 2.75 bullpen earned-run average. They earned a combined $4.9 million, less than 13 of baseball's individual closers.

As good as Papelbon is (1.83 ERA, 84 strikeouts in '07), consider that he pitched 59 innings all season, out of nearly 1,500 innings the team played over 162 games. That means the Red Sox played 96% of their baseball while Papelbon snoozed out in the bullpen. He wasn't a bargain--Boston just got what they paid for. Look for the team to make him a starting pitcher down the road, once he accumulates the service time needed to command a big raise.

Of this year's eight playoff teams, the four that spent the most on closers--the Yankees, Angels, Cubs and Phillies--all lost in the first round. Combined, those teams coughed up $28 million, or 48% of their bullpen money, on the position. The four first-round winners--Rockies, Diamondbacks, Indians and Red Sox--spent $10 million, or 36%, on their closers. Those four also had the lowest overall relief ERAs, a result of building quantity along with quality in the pen.

Those veteran closers making millions can thank Tony LaRussa, who ushered in the era of hyper-specialization as manager of the Oakland A's in 1988. That year, LaRussa decided that his best reliever, Dennis Eckersley, would be used strictly to protect ninth-inning leads. Other clubs soon followed suit, and top relievers found themselves racking up more saves (the biggest stat driving their paychecks) while pitching fewer innings.

Yet in the 20 seasons since LaRussa's brainstorm, teams holding late leads have won at about the same rate they did in the 20 seasons before. Since 1988, teams leading after eight innings have won at a .951 clip, according to Baseball-Reference.com and STATS Inc., compared to .948 from 1968 to 1987. That adds up to less than one win per season per team.

How much added value can be expected from a guy who specializes in pitching the last inning, when there's so little room for improvement? Very little, though the perception of the ninth inning as overly important (do runs scored in that inning count more?) has made developing a track record as a last-inning specialist very lucrative.

And of course, that's just fine with the closers, for whom the current paradigm means less work for more money. That's a great gig; perhaps their agents are divvying up profits with LaRussa. Smart teams like the Red Sox and Rockies just don't take the bait.

metirish
Oct 23 2007 01:42 PM

It is interesting that 52% of the Yankee bullpen budget went to Rivera, that's a high number, Wagner is probably similar I would think. Still though if Rivera had got injured then Joba could have closed for the minimum and perhaps they then decide not to sign Rivera for huge money and stay with Joba as the closer.

Who was closing games for Boston when thew season started?, Papelbon was in the rotation I think.

smg58
Oct 23 2007 01:44 PM

After seeing what happened to the Mets in September, I'm quite definitely sold on the concept of bullpen depth. But the Mets did spend money on the pen outside of Wagner; they just didn't spend the money particularly well.

Edgy DC
Oct 23 2007 01:51 PM

Narrow data set of course.

Sometimes, the answer to bullpen depth is not to spend money, populating it with retreads and comers and making it easier to move guys in and out until the right combination emerges.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 23 2007 02:16 PM

Evolution takes a long time, but it's not necessarily gradual. One theory is that it happens in bursts; a species will stay the same for thousands of generations and then, over a much shorter period of time, experience a dramatic change.

I think LaRussa and Eckersley in 1988 was one of those leaps.

I'd say that, other than the DH, the ninth-inning specialist is the worst innovation I've seen in my years of watching baseball, which dates back to 1971.

Fman99
Oct 23 2007 02:23 PM

metirish wrote:
It is interesting that 52% of the Yankee bullpen budget went to Rivera, that's a high number, Wagner is probably similar I would think. Still though if Rivera had got injured then Joba could have closed for the minimum and perhaps they then decide not to sign Rivera for huge money and stay with Joba as the closer.

Who was closing games for Boston when thew season started?, Papelbon was in the rotation I think.


That'd be the Joel Piniero experiment. As a Sox closer he turned out to be a pretty good Cards #4 SP.

metirish
Oct 23 2007 02:26 PM

Right, making 4 million from the Sox to close games.

Frayed Knot
Oct 23 2007 02:45 PM

The Papelbon to the rotation experiment ended in Spring Training. Piniero was one of those cheap fall-back options that Edgy talks about that's easy to abandon if they don't work.


I also agree that the cheap closer "option" Boston is taking is more a case of circumstance than philosophy.
It's a bit like the makeup of the Yanqui roster. NYY fans are fond of calling for a return to the early '90s "decision" to build through the farm rather than through high-priced FAs - even to the point of blaming those expensive imports (Giambi, Mussina, ARod, etc) for the failure to win a championship for now 7 years. Except that that "change" was more a reactive one than a conscious decision sparked by the fact that not one NYY 1st-round draft pick between Jeter & Phil Hughes even made the majors much less became a player you could build a top club around. Nor is MLB littered with Yanqui farmhands that were foolishly traded away. They weren't getting FAs at the expense of young players, they simply didn't have youngsters who were any good.

Give me a young Papelbon and I'll pass on paying closers too. Prior to him, of course, they paid (big-ish) money for Keith Foulke and got one good year out of 4 from him and fortunately for them it was the right year otherwise we might still be talking about 1918.






* and I just became Ron Darling. Where's my Emmy award?

Edgy DC
Oct 23 2007 02:56 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
They weren't getting FAs at the expense of young players, they simply didn't have youngsters who were any good.


I'll agree with you mostly, though they also had some foreign talent growing there, such as Alfonso Soriano and D'Angelo Jiminez, as well as non-first-rounders like Nick Johnson.

Those don't quite add up to a base, but...

Frayed Knot
Oct 23 2007 04:59 PM

Really only Johnson qualifies as an example of dealing away youth in favor of expensive outside help. Signing Giambi was one of those "George" moves which took place entirely outside the realm of the GM and so Johnson was pretty much expendable after that point. And even there the hit they should have taken on him has been lessened somewhat by the incredibly bad luck streak of injuries he's run into which actually started before the Yanx dealt him.

- Soriano was certainly a good enough young player but was dealt for ARod and it would take an especially dense Yanqui fan to argue that what they would have been better off w/o making that deal. Plus the age difference there is just 6 months.

Edgy DC
Oct 23 2007 06:20 PM

Well, dense Yanqui fans are (1) not in short supply when it comes to A-Rod, and (2) what we're talking about here. Plus Soriano is nonetheless a product of the farm system that was far cheaper than Rodriguez (certainly not much of an issue now), while coming off of a Rodriguezian season, if lacking in walks and defense.

Nymr83
Oct 23 2007 09:24 PM

] not one NYY 1st-round draft pick between Jeter & Phil Hughes even made the majors much less became a player you could build a top club around.


Eric Milton

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2007 08:11 AM

Yeah, I missed Milton during my little search.

But my larger point remains; that I don't see the recent NYY surge of home-grown players as an altered philosophy as much as a change in opportunity. The Yanx weren't turning their backs on young talent from 2000-06, they simply weren't producing enough of it. And even those fabled championship teams were built as much by trade/FA outsiders like O'Neill, Brosius, Cone, Key, Wells, Clemens, Knoblauch, etc., as by Jeter, Pettitte, Posada, Rivera.

Likewise (getting back to the subject of the thread) I don't see the presence of Papelbon as a statement of purpose as much as simply taking advantage of talent when it shows up in the same way that installing Pedroia at 2nd base doesn't show a sudden aversion to high-priced infielders. If the Sox have shown anything in recent years it's that they are at least as willing as any team (and more able than most) to pay major bucks to fill perceived holes - and if they were to suddenly find themselves with a hole in the closer's spot I don't believe they'd pass up a top guy with a high price tag based on principle anymore than they did the last time going "closerless" failed miserably and they immediately ran out and signed Keith Foulke.

Edgy DC
Oct 24 2007 08:47 AM

Such a hijack!

vtmet
Oct 24 2007 02:11 PM

What I find most interesting...is that the Forbes article is stating that
]Rockies closer Brian Fuentes, who makes $3.5 million, sometimes shares ninth-inning duties with Manual Corpas.


You would think that the author of the article would at least get his facts straight...Fuentes is the SETUP MAN...Corpas is the Rockies CLOSER, not Fuentes (who last got a save in June)...

Edgy DC
Oct 24 2007 02:15 PM

He's looking at the total stats and it appears that they've shared duties concurrently, not one guy doing it the first half of the seaosn and the other guy after.

vtmet
Oct 24 2007 03:20 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
He's looking at the total stats and it appears that they've shared duties concurrently, not one guy doing it the first half of the seaosn and the other guy after.


That is not correct however...

Fuentes WAS the closer...and had 20 saves by June 21st...His last "save" was on June 21st vs the Yankees...he then had 4 consecutive "Blown saves" to close out June and then got hammered again in mopup duty in a 0-12 loss on July 1st...He then went on the disabled list after his July 3rd outing...when he returned on August 14th, he had lost his closer's role to
Manny Corpas...funny thing is, Fuentes has had great stats as a setup man and somewhat lousy numbers as a closer

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6735/splits;_ylt=At6T8hs6EGCNG.bqk7t1.HeFCLcF[/url]



Corpas had ZERO saves prior to July 7th...he then proceeded to have 7 saves in July...4 saves in August...8 saves in September...and 5 saves with a win in the playoffs...He is the Closer...Fuentes used to be the closer...

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