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Frayed Knot Oct 23 2007 02:27 PM

Boston leaves Wakefield off the roster on account of lingering shoulder issues -- so there goes Mirabelli's playing time. Or at least that's the stated reason. Wakefield was left off the first round but was then added for the 2nd but pitched poorly. It's also possible that because the rest of the staff is healthy and pitching reasonably well they just figured they don't really need him. If Wakefield did pitch it would certainly be one of the middle games in the thin air of Colorado, a locale not considered good for breaking balls and in games where they'd already be short a bat as it is having to sit either Papi or Youkilis because of no DH. Starting Wakefield there would have meant Varitek's bat out of the lineup too.

metirish Oct 23 2007 02:30 PM

That's tough on Wakefield but he's not been pitching much lately, also Ellsbury will start for the Sox, no surprise there I guess.

sharpie Oct 23 2007 02:32 PM

So is Jon Lester the Game 4 starter or Clay Buchholz?

metirish Oct 23 2007 02:34 PM

Wouldn't Beckett start that game?

Edgy DC Oct 23 2007 02:39 PM

Wakefield pitching the last three innings of Game Five against the Yankees in 2004, as Jason Varitek chased three passed balls to the backstop, was about as good as non-Mets baseball gets. Terry Francona had Mirabelli on the bench, but left 'Tek out there with the go-ahead run on third, his balls removed from his pants and placed on the top steps, and Sox Nation ready to stomp all over them if one more pitch got away.

Frayed Knot Oct 23 2007 02:52 PM

Wakefield's ability to pitch whenever neccesary while the Sox starters were faltering went a long way towards saving their bacon back in the '04 ALCS. Even in the games they didn't win he saved the rest of the staff for games 4-7.

metirish Oct 24 2007 06:35 PM

Just saw a TV Ad for DISH HD and I swear they ripped AC/DC's "Whole Lotta Rosie" but it's not Angus and the boys version but some updated thing, horrible, watch for the Ad during the game.

Valadius Oct 24 2007 07:25 PM

Tim McCarver is an idiot. "When the runner gets to third base, the next stop is home." DUH!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 24 2007 08:11 PM

Sleeveless uni tops are retarded on a night like this and don't leave the real estate for World Serious patches. No wonder the Rocks are getting smoked.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 24 2007 08:20 PM

I swear, some of these Rockies' names look like random letters pulled from a Scrabble bag -- before you try to make a word out of them. Yorvit?

vtmet Oct 24 2007 08:47 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I swear, some of these Rockies' names look like random letters pulled from a Scrabble bag -- before you try to make a word out of them. Yorvit? I wouldn't be too surprised to see Yorvit as the Mets catcher next season...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 24 2007 08:49 PM

I underestimated the Red Sox. I really thought they were dead meat after Game 4 of the ALCS -- Not so, Boston

metirish Oct 24 2007 08:51 PM

Seems like the bases have been loaded all night, they could really blow the game open here, oh wait they already have, thanks Joe.

metirish Oct 24 2007 09:04 PM

I wonder what things happened all over the world in the time it took for the Rockies to get the Sox out jsut now, 34 minutes.

Edgy DC Oct 24 2007 09:46 PM

I'm concerned that the Rockies may not sweep all the way home.

Fman99 Oct 25 2007 06:49 AM

Valadius wrote: Tim McCarver is an idiot. "When the runner gets to third base, the next stop is home." DUH! I would personally love to see each team's regular season broadcasters get to do that team's postseason home games. They know the players and coaches and have perspective. Instead of the national network coverage's "appeal to the casual fan" philosophy that is so insulting to me.

Nymr83 Oct 25 2007 06:55 AM

how would you like to be Ryan Speier? he came in last night with the bases loaded, walked in 3 runs, and left the game.

metirish Oct 25 2007 07:03 AM

Fman99 wrote: ="Valadius"]Tim McCarver is an idiot. "When the runner gets to third base, the next stop is home." DUH! I would personally love to see each team's regular season broadcasters get to do that team's postseason home games. They know the players and coaches and have perspective. Instead of the national network coverage's "appeal to the casual fan" philosophy that is so insulting to me. What is so insulting about McCarver?, Buck often sounds like he'd rather be doing a football game but McCarver has passion for the game, yeah he says some odd things but who doesn't?

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 07:19 AM

McCarver readily acknowledges that he takes it back a few notches for the post-season, to explain nuances of the game to the casual fan that the rabid fan needs not. He says the network prefers he approach the broadcasts that way and I don't really care. I agree that a home team's announcers would be more interesting. I doubt I'm about to see it happen.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2007 07:38 AM

I've watched enough games on Extra Innings to know that some home team announcers are abysmal. If the Padres had made the playoffs, and their local announcers were on the national telecasts, you'd certainly be tempted to watch with the sound muted.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 07:47 AM

D-Backs also. It's like happy hour in the booth.

Valadius Oct 25 2007 08:44 AM

McCarver is like the John Madden of baseball broadcasting though when it comes to the things he says. I think even the most casual fan knows that home plate is the next stop after third base.

metirish Oct 25 2007 08:49 AM

I didn't hear that comment Val but did McCarver say it because he felt some fans didn't know it or was it said as a casual remark as part of something else? I don't think McCarver would treat his audience like morons that didn't know home plate comes after third base.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 08:50 AM

Of course they know that. I think the point was to philosophically underscore the value of that. Out of context, all of our statements would sound inane inane inane.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2007 08:52 AM

Announcer, schmannouncer. Baseball is baseball.

Centerfield Oct 25 2007 09:43 AM

After Chip Caray, I promised not to trash Buck/McCarver.

metirish Oct 25 2007 10:17 AM

Defense Rocks. http://www.slate.com/id/2176565

bmfc1 Oct 25 2007 10:33 AM

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=98 I was surprised to find a Mets sub-forum within the famous Red Sox board, Sons of Sam Horn.

metirish Oct 25 2007 10:46 AM

From the Onion. ] ctober 25, 2007 Terry Francona Announces Josh Beckett Will Start Games 1, 4, 7, 2, 6, 3, 5 BOSTON—Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona announced Tuesday that the Colorado Rockies would receive a healthy dose of pitcher Josh Becket during the 2007 World Series, saying that the ALCS MVP would start games one, four, seven, two, six, three, and five, in that order. "I don't think this should come as a real shock to anyone," Francona told reporters, adding that with this schedule, Beckett should get "more than enough rest" between games one and four, which would allow him to be at maximum strength for games seven, two, and, if necessary, six, three, and the crucial fifth game. "Looking at the pitchers I have at my disposal, this gives us the best chance to win." According to Francona, Beckett should also be ready to pitch in late-inning relief of himself in games four and six, close games seven and three, and pitch on three hours rest if needed. More News Briefs

Centerfield Oct 25 2007 10:48 AM

Orel Hershiser already did that.

Valadius Oct 25 2007 06:09 PM

So, if there's a stolen base in this series, we all get a free taco from Taco Bell.

metirish Oct 25 2007 07:01 PM

Valadius wrote: So, if there's a stolen base in this series, we all get a free taco from Taco Bell. Yes, on the 30th between 3 and 5PM, you can have mine. Watch for the rats.

Valadius Oct 25 2007 07:51 PM

Free tacos for America!!!

Nymr83 Oct 25 2007 08:02 PM

yuck. hey val you're up in that "stupid game" thread

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 09:17 PM

="metirish"]Defense Rocks. http://www.slate.com/id/2176565 The Times wrote almost the same article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/sports/baseball/26fenway.html

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2007 09:19 PM

Okajima has an awesome delivery.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2007 09:38 PM

This is ithe inning to do it for the Rocks. Matsui facing Okajima here, 8th inning 1 out, 0 on, 2-1 sawx

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2007 09:47 PM

Holliday: Not just a bad runner, a really bad one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 25 2007 10:11 PM

Didn't think the Red Sox would win a low-scoring game, especially on a night Beckett wasn't pitching. Wrong again.

Fman99 Oct 26 2007 06:51 AM

Is it too much to ask the Rox to win a game or two and make a series of this thing? So far Dice-K has been very hittable this postseason.

Centerfield Oct 26 2007 08:51 AM

How does a guy like Okajima even think to try that anyway. "I'm an average middle reliever. Maybe if I jerk my head violently to the right during my delivery to such a degree that I am throwing blindly, it will give me more life on my fastball, let me try that..."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 26 2007 09:22 AM

He reminds me of those olde-timey pitching machines with the arm that whips overhead in as perfect arc, but you know there's all these oily gears beneath making it happen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2007 09:28 PM

Only guy watching Game 3, looks like. I really thought the Rocks were going to get back into it last inning. Spillborgs killed that ball but instead of a 3rHR making it 6-5, it's 6-2 Bosox in the 7th.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2007 09:37 PM

Kaz rocks. Leadoff bingle. Steals second. Rocks determined to make a game and a series of this.

Valadius Oct 27 2007 09:42 PM

Tulowitski is going to be a star.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2007 09:44 PM

There it is! 3-run shot by Holliday off Okajima!

Valadius Oct 27 2007 09:44 PM

KABOOM!!! They're baaaaack...

Valadius Oct 27 2007 09:48 PM

Tying run aboard, nobody out.

Frayed Knot Oct 27 2007 10:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 28 2007 10:52 AM

Julio Lugo had a sub-.300 OBA this season and the Rox walked him twice tonight - both times either starting, or continuing to, major rallies.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2007 10:36 PM

Can't be doin that.

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 06:53 PM

Julio F. Lugo ruined everything last night. Offense and defense.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 08:50 PM

Oh, it's the 7th inning of Game 4 the Rockies trail 3-1 (Hawpe just homered). F it, I'll take another game if I can get it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:03 PM

Timlin says, F you, Johnny Lunchbucket. Baseball ends tonight.

metirish Oct 28 2007 09:06 PM

That was it wasn't it?

Frayed Knot Oct 28 2007 09:10 PM

Disappointing series over all. I didn't think Colorado was going to win but I thought they'd make a better showing of it. This Ellsbury kid looks good but he's also getting every conceivable break on the planet. Everytime he puts his bat on the ball it's falling just out of the reach of someone.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:15 PM

Rockies have themselves to blame but the 9-day layoff appears not have helped much.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:34 PM

Roxx will rally here, get 2 maybe, then give them back in the 9th.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:35 PM

I swear I wrote that ^ before Atkins' HR.

Valadius Oct 28 2007 09:35 PM

They ain't dead yet. Atkins brings Rox within 1.

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 09:38 PM

Does His Holiness have five outs in him?

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 09:44 PM

It took seven pitches to get Spilborgh. hawpe is it now. He's had his moments. I'm just hoping he extends the inning enough to turn the lineup over at the start of next inning.

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 09:47 PM

Nihil.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:55 PM

Last inning of baseball 2007 roll call. Here!

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 09:56 PM

Ninth inning. We have a Matsui at the Bat situation coming up. But Yorv preceded KazMat And so did Jamey C. The former made me vomit The latter made me pee

Frayed Knot Oct 28 2007 09:59 PM

I always get sad at the last day of baseball for the season. Whether it be the last day of Met baseball (although anger/frustration was more the emotion of the day this year) or of the overall season. Let's see if the Rox can extend it just one more day.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 09:59 PM

Carroll was playing second last inning. I think we missed a Matsui benching or soemthing

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 10:03 PM

wow Carroll almost got it. OK, its up to Seth Smith, or something.

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 10:04 PM

Ouch, Jamie. Just a little less conversation and a little more action.

Edgy DC Oct 28 2007 10:08 PM

Congratulations, Scarlet Hosery.

metirish Oct 28 2007 10:10 PM

Congrats to the Sox.. Oh would Chris fucking Myers stop asking Varitek stupid questions like whick team is better, 04 or this one.....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 10:10 PM

Not that I care but who's the MVP? They keep showing Manny

Valadius Oct 28 2007 10:11 PM

Bah. At least this will make Steinbrenner have a shit-fit.

Frayed Knot Oct 28 2007 10:11 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Not that I care but who's the MVP? They keep showing Manny No obvious choice. I could make a case for Ellsbury.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2007 10:14 PM

I'd have thought maybe Papelbon too but that wasn't part of the Meyers conversation.

SteveJRogers Oct 28 2007 10:14 PM

Yankees have to redo those "Got Rings?" shirts! HAHAHA!

SteveJRogers Oct 28 2007 10:24 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Not that I care but who's the MVP? They keep showing Manny No obvious choice. I could make a case for Ellsbury. Answer is... Mike Lowell.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 28 2007 10:37 PM

I hate the off-season.

metirish Oct 29 2007 08:42 AM

I would not have guessed Lowell for MVP but then again I would not have guessed he had these post-season numbers, quite guy Lowell. ] Lowell hit .333 in the division series, .333 in the American League Championship Series and .400 in the World Series, with a combined 15 runs batted in. Taken from the Times.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2007 08:49 AM

I think that makes 4 shitty, forgettable World Seriousnesses in a row. 07: Boston 4, Roxxx 0 06: St Loo 4, Detroit 1 05: Whitesox 4, Ass-tros 0 04: Redsox 4, Cardinals 0 03 was an OK series, with the Marlins beating the Yanks, but no 2001. It's been since 02 (Giants-Angels) where we had a game 7.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2007 08:58 AM

The whole post-season had a total of 28 games, barely more than the 24 game minimum and well below the 41 game possible max. Aside from the Bost-Cleve semis going the distance, the Injuns losing a game to the Yanx in round 1 was the only other non-sweep.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2007 08:59 AM

I blame Dane Cook.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2007 09:08 AM

An extended series would have gone into November for the first time since 2001.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2007 09:14 AM

I don't mind that MLB and the networks made less money for fewer games.

metirish Oct 29 2007 09:22 AM

Edgy DC wrote: An extended series would have gone into November for the first time since 2001. There is only one Mr. November.