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Most. Clutch. Hitter.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 09:04 AM

That's [url=http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071024&content_id=2280457&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb]Alex Rodriguez[/url], sports fans. Yankee fans can rationalize all they want, but the dreaded PEPSI (Points Earned Past Standard Index, or something) metric does not lie. They've been beating up on a guy who is not only the best hitter in the game, while forced to play out of position in deference to a player who can't hold his glove, but he's the PEPSI clutchiest hitter. Drink it.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2007 09:21 AM

I really hope he's played his last game as a Yankee.

bmfc1 Oct 25 2007 09:33 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I really hope he's played his last game as a Yankee. I agree... if it means he stays in the American League. If it means that he goes to the Cubs or elsewhere in the National League, he can have more of a negative impact on The Mets than if he stays with the MFYs.

metirish Oct 25 2007 09:55 AM

They could never replace his numbers so I hope he's gone, my guess is to the Giants, not exactly going out on a limb I know. bmfc1 , weather it's the AL or NL I don't see how he could have such a negative impact on the Mets, to win a WS you must go through the best teams and players, of course it he ended up in the NL East then that would be a bit of trouble.

DocTee Oct 25 2007 10:00 AM

There is no way the Giants, having just ridded themselves of the Bonds contract albatross, go anywhere A-Rod. Angels, Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox, methinks, are the only potential suitors

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 10:04 AM

metirish wrote: They could never replace his numbers... Miggy Cabrera would get them 75% of the way there, and provide some socceriffic defense. You heard it here first. Really, I've got to believe it's less than 50% that other teams even get to take a shot.

bmfc1 Oct 25 2007 10:07 AM

If he's in the NL, it makes an opponent better and The Mets will play that team more than the six times they play the MFYs. Of course, it hurts every other team, too. The big thing is that our guys could see that team earlier than the WS (which is the case with the MFYs)... if they manage to make the playoffs. Perhaps the joy we'll get from it hurting the MFYs evens things out.

Centerfield Oct 25 2007 10:11 AM

Check out the byline on that article.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 10:20 AM

A Hoch and a Smile.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2007 10:31 AM

="bmfc1"]If he's in the NL, it makes an opponent better and The Mets will play that team more than the six times they play the MFYs. If it's an NL Central or NL West team, the Mets would most likely play them the same six times. (Maybe seven. Maybe even nine, but probably six.)

bmfc1 Oct 25 2007 10:32 AM

OK, OK. I concede.

seawolf17 Oct 25 2007 12:46 PM

B-b-b-but what about Jeet?

Iubitul Oct 25 2007 02:30 PM

Keith Hernandez was the first name I thought of when I read the thread title

Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2007 08:20 PM

I believe that any team that eventually meets A-Rod's and Boras' financial demands will financially hamstring themselves from being able to acquire the supporting players needed to build a World Series contender. So I wouldn't mind seeing A-Rod resigning with the Yankees. I hope he hits George up for $28-30 mil./year for 4-5 years. This time, there would be no financial subsidy forthcoming from Hicks and the Rangers.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2007 08:50 PM

He's already getting $27 million per for the next three years if he doesn't take the opt out, so I think it'd be no problem for the Yankees sustaining him for another three years after that at $30 million while enjoying three more years of subsidized Alex. Only problem there is what Derek gets paid when his deal is up after 2010. Will agent Casey Close start whining?

Rockin' Doc Oct 26 2007 07:54 AM

He may be making $27 mil. now, but the Rangers are paying a substantial chunk of that for the Yankees at present. I may be mistaken, but I thought the Rangers funding of a large chunk of ARod's deal would stop should he opt out of his contract and sign a new one. If signing a new contract does not get the Rangers off the hook financially, then I would prefer to see Rodriguez move elsewhere. I don't want the Yankees to retain him for a small incremental increase.

metirish Oct 26 2007 07:56 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 26 2007 08:53 AM

Rodriguez can sign an extension with the MFY and that would not affect the current deal where Hicks is kicking in $9M a season, if he opts out then Hicks is off the hook.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2007 08:08 AM

Right. The Yanx simply say 'we'll sign you to a new (5 year?) deal starting with the 2011 season' ... which would leave years 2008-2010 as is. That way they can keep him locked up for the next 8 years (until he turns 40) and can most likely pay him more in the final 5 than most other teams as they'd still be getting the first 3 at a discount. Anyone - Yanx or otherwise - signing him to a new deal has to pay full freight starting now. My guess is that he re-ups with the Yanx without ever opting out of the current deal because I simply don't believe that there will be the interest in the bank-breaking numbers that are being thrown around by Boras and the press.

Edgy DC Oct 26 2007 08:30 AM

Using that opt-out to end the discount is seemingly worth more to him as a bluff card to force the Yanks into an extension, than as a card he'd actually play, so it's a real Mexican standoff that could happen. That's why I'm thinking he'll get just a three-year extension beyond the the three they've got him for now. If Boras and he have the brass to keep pressing the issue, there may be an option year or two thrown in.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2007 08:41 AM

The thinking is that Boras (as with JD Drew last year) doesn't go into these things without knowing the market - even to the point where there are surely off-the-record conversations w/other teams about what they'd be willing to pay in the hypothetical chance that ARod were to become a FA. The Dodgers all but formally accused the Red Sox of contact with Drew while he was still their player last year. So when the Yanx lay out their expected take-it-of-leave-it (or so they claim) proposal some time in the next two weeks, Boaras-Rod will surely have some kind of number in mind. And if they walk away it means they already know that there's some kind of monster offer out there.

Rockin' Doc Oct 30 2007 05:14 AM

ARod opts to walk away and become a free agent. No discounted deal in the Yankees future. I still would like to see him rip the Yankees out of an obscene amount of cash for a new deal, but I doubt that wil happen. Someone else will likely get that that distinction. I'm sure Boras has a few teams aready on the line.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2007 05:55 AM

I'm less concerned with how much money the Yankees spend than I am with how many games they win. (Or better, fail to win.) I can only see Rodriguez leaving the Yankees as a good thing.