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Chad Cordero for Gomez and Pelfrey?

metsguyinmichigan Nov 08 2007 07:48 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 08 2007 08:00 AM

This on MLB.com: "After their historic crash earlier this fall, it became apparent the New York Mets need bullpen help, someone like Chad Cordero of the Washington Nationals. The Washington Nationals, meanwhile, are interested in Mets' outfielder Carlos Gomez and right-hander Mike Pelfrey, according to a baseball source. Pelfrey, 23, is a pitcher the Nationals have been coveting since before the July 31 trade deadline. " I think that would be crazy for us to do. The Nats GM, Jim Bowden, always overvalues his players, which is why they can't get anything done.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2007 07:52 AM

No Chad. No Chard. No nobody. If we must have a Chad who throws grounders, I prefer we bring the last one back. Really, it's going to be tough for Minaya not to cash in his chips this offseason, but I hope he doesn't.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 08 2007 07:59 AM

I wouldn't include Pelfrey. I think we're going to need him as a starter next season.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2007 08:03 AM

I think the Mets would do well to show some emotional detachment this offeseason, and work from the perspective of "disappointing step backwards" rather than "historic collapse."

metirish Nov 08 2007 08:05 AM

Minaya of course knows all about Cordero, too high a price for him I think.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 08 2007 08:10 AM

I declare no flat-brimmed ballplayers shall ever play for the Mets.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2007 08:12 AM

You're tossing out about 1/3 of the Miami --- the city where rich teams go shopping.

bmfc1 Nov 08 2007 08:33 AM

This is allegedly the package that OM turned down at the trade deadline. If he did it then, it might have saved the season. If he didn't do it then, he had a good reason (giving up too much) so why should he do it now?

holychicken Nov 08 2007 08:34 AM

A starting pitcher and a A-list prospect ("Unnamed Sources" claim that there is a lot of interest in Gomez and "Unnamed Sources" also claim that Minaya holds him highly) for what would amount to a late inning reliever for us *maybe* eventually a closer? Horrible idea, IMO.

metirish Nov 08 2007 08:36 AM

Get Sanchez healthy for that role.

attgig Nov 08 2007 08:48 AM

metirish wrote: Get Sanchez healthy for that role. that's what i'm thinking, but ... can we really count on him?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 08 2007 08:51 AM

No we can't. But if we're really hot for relief pitching, then let's get Eric Gagne as a FA.

metirish Nov 08 2007 08:54 AM

] "I've always felt that it's easier to get a free agent done than a trade done," Minaya.

TransMonk Nov 08 2007 10:50 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I declare no flat-brimmed ballplayers shall ever play for the Mets. I won't feel comfortable rooting for him until he puts a curve in it.

Valadius Nov 08 2007 11:07 AM

We have a damn closer already, one of the best in the majors. We'd be overpaying for a setup guy.

smg58 Nov 08 2007 12:20 PM

Heilman had a better ERA in more innings last year. Troy Percival had a far better year and can probably be signed to a one-year contract plus an option. David Riske is also a viable free agent option who's a better pitcher than Cordero. Cordero's value is inflated because he's a closer, which he won't be here. It can't be so hard to find a right-handed setup guy that you'd part with one top prospect to get one, much less two. I see no reason to go there.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2007 12:30 PM

attgig wrote: ="metirish"]Get Sanchez healthy for that role. that's what i'm thinking, but ... can we really count on him? Of course not. Four rules. 1) Nothing is a given. You can't pencil anybody in as automatic anything. 2) This is particularly true of pitchers. 3) This is particularly particularly true of relief pitchers. 4) Relief pitcher coming off of a blank season after surgery? Expect nothing and delight in anything you get. The answer is redundancy, baby. All that said, Cordero has yet to have a bad year. But you know me. I'm all about the internal development pipeline, spiced up by free agents.

OlerudOwned Nov 09 2007 07:46 AM

I'm still all about Jon Rauch.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 09 2007 07:48 AM

I'd like to steal J.C. Romero from the Phillies.

metirish Nov 09 2007 07:49 AM

WE HAD A FUCKING CHANCE TO GET ROMERO LAST SEASON AND OMAR FUCKED THAT UP AND HE WENT TO BOSTON AND SUCKED BUT STILL. I'm being totally irrational .

Edgy DC Nov 09 2007 07:54 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 09 2007 08:55 PM

Jon Rauch is a beast. Look how tiny the ball is in his hand. I believe he's wanted for questioning in connection to several children found in the DC area partially eaten.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 09 2007 07:57 AM

The key question about Jon Rauch is, of course, by acquiring him would we be "sticking it to the Yankees?" If the answer is no, then we need to look somewhere else.

OlerudOwned Nov 09 2007 09:15 AM

I'm sure we could at least swing a deal for one of them.

seawolf17 Nov 09 2007 09:57 AM

Wait, he's 6'10" and there are three of him?!?! Sign him now, Omar.

metirish Nov 09 2007 10:00 AM

This is the fella that Keith used to call chewbacca before he decided to shave the beard and trim the hair?

Edgy DC Nov 09 2007 10:18 AM

Most current sources say 6'11'". They usually accompany that with "tallest pitcher ever."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 09 2007 10:30 AM

I sat just a few rows behind the Nats bullpen at Wrigley this season, and can report that Rauch is gigantic. John Patterson is very tall and Rauch towered over him.

Edgy DC Nov 09 2007 10:38 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 09 2007 10:44 AM

Seriously, they must have a special budget to outfit their relief corps. Here's Ray King, the small guy in the Nats' bullpen. The first picture that comes up when you Google "Ray King" is an overhead shot:

Benjamin Grimm Nov 09 2007 10:40 AM

Wow, and I thought the Rockies were wearing ugly uniforms. That alternative "sailor suit" look that the Nationals have is hideous.

Iubitul Nov 09 2007 05:10 PM

Edgy DC wrote: The first picture that comes up when you Google "Ray King" is an overhead shot: Now there's something you don't see every day.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 11 2007 01:46 AM

The Stay Puft guy actually looks more svelte than Ray King does!

Fman99 Nov 11 2007 08:37 AM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: The Stay Puft guy actually looks more svelte than Ray King does! I liked the episode where Ray King, Bill, Rudy, Mushmouth, Dumb Donald and the rest of the gang found the wallet and had to decide if they should keep the money or turn it in.