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Castillo signs
Mex17 Nov 18 2007 07:23 PM |
4 years/$25 million as per Ken Rosenthal, Rotoworld, and some Spanish website.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 18 2007 07:28 PM |
With the Mets?
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metirish Nov 18 2007 07:38 PM |
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Nymr83 Nov 18 2007 07:40 PM |
i dont like it. this guy is rapidly degenerating, by the end of this contract he'll be a huge liability. a contract like this also takes ABs away from Easley and Gotay, because lets face it, they arent benching the guy with a 4 year deal no matter who is hitting better.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 18 2007 08:02 PM |
Well, it's not like Easley had expectations of starts to begin with. He's there to hit the other team's lefthanded relievers and fill in whhen needed.
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Valadius Nov 18 2007 08:06 PM |
I would have liked this before I found out that Castillo was a bad influence on Reyes. My dad has a good source who told him that Castillo parties way too much, and stays out really late, and that Reyes went out with him nearly every night after Castillo was traded here.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 18 2007 08:07 PM |
Perhaps he can get Johan Santana laid.
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Frayed Knot Nov 18 2007 08:19 PM |
At least twice as long as I would have preferred - but whatyagointodo?
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Edgy DC Nov 18 2007 08:56 PM |
Here in the post-Torrealba era, I'd like to see a thread title in the same tense as the article being referenced.
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A Boy Named Seo Nov 18 2007 10:23 PM |
I kinda grew fond of Castillo. He looked like he absolutely hated losing and that's sadly not based on a small sample size. I kept waiting for his broken body to just go poof and for him to implode into a pile of dust, but writhing in pain, or just kinda hurting, he always busted down the line and hung in on DP's and made some nice plays in the field. His legs scare me, because if they go for good, there's not much left. 4 years is a long time.
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 05:42 AM |
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His hairdresser's cousin?
Now there's a real shocker. Professional athletes out partying, who could've figured?
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 05:43 AM |
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Me too. It hurt just to watch him hobble around last year. The four years scares me too. Hopefully when he becomes ineffective we can buy him out or something. Or just cut him and take the hit.
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seawolf17 Nov 19 2007 07:51 AM |
Four years, $25 million is reasonable enough that he'll be cuttable in two years if they don't get what they need out of him. I like the deal.
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smg58 Nov 19 2007 08:00 AM |
Don't like the years, but that's not a bad amount of money per year. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
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Frayed Knot Nov 19 2007 08:15 AM |
Health is part of it - although he already had a procedure to fix whatever was bothering him with his knees and maybe getting off the Minny turf helps too - but I'm at least as worried about the fact that he really isn't all that good. The per/year money is probably about what he deserves, but he's still essentially the worst slugger in the league and has only decent (tho hardly great) BA/OBA numbers in recent seasons. If his singles/on base skills dip down just another few clicks toward mediocre then he becomes decidedly sub-par, heading for mid-30s, MI-er w/NO power and declining speed with several years left on a contract that probably can't be traded for much.
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 12:05 PM |
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Can they cut him in two years with no penalty? I thought the contract was guaranteed even if they cut him.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 19 2007 12:09 PM |
It sounds to me like the contract is guaranteed. (Most are, unless they include the term "option year.") If they cut him after two years, they'd have to eat years three and four.
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Frayed Knot Nov 19 2007 12:14 PM |
I think what he means is that two years of the contract will be eat-able if he sucks half way through - although $12+ mil is a helluva big lunch.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 19 2007 12:21 PM |
Well, yeah, but they also said the same thing about Yorvit...
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Valadius Nov 19 2007 12:54 PM |
I can't remember who the source was. My dad can't remember either, other than he thinks it was someone close to Willie. However, I faintly recall him saying something about a bouncer at some club. So I dunno. All I know is, he's certain that it was somebody in the know.
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smg58 Nov 19 2007 01:01 PM |
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Anderson could fill Gotay's role in the infield, and reserve outfielders who can hit decently aren't terribly hard to come by. I'd be curious to see what Gotay's market value is. Somebody looking for a cheap plug-in against righties would find him useful.
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metirish Nov 19 2007 01:03 PM |
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Must be the bouncer that told about his hard partying ways.
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Nymr83 Nov 19 2007 01:05 PM |
even though i hate giving him 4 years there is a plus side to this- no david eckstein.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 19 2007 01:24 PM |
Yeah, right or wrong I kinda prefer Castillo to Eckstein. I would be thrilled to se Castillo arrive at camp without a spare tire. I mean, that's my goal too.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 19 2007 05:50 PM |
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It's official:
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Edgy DC Nov 19 2007 07:54 PM |
HE BETTER!
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SteveJRogers Nov 19 2007 08:07 PM |
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Just to corroborate, remeber he missed Glavine's 300th game, a NIGHT game after a DAY game due to "exhaustion." Well...I can tell you I saw him the night before the Glavine game, and he certaintly was still up around 2-3am.
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seawolf17 Nov 19 2007 08:08 PM |
Is Steve Rogers Valadius' dad? Weird.
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Edgy DC Nov 19 2007 08:38 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 19 2007 09:02 PM |
Well, first of all, Stevey Scoops, it was Glavine's 300th win, not his 300th game. Second of all, who gives a fig? If he needed a night off, it was as good as any. Third of all, it was clear to anybody watching that his legs needed rest.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 19 2007 08:38 PM |
Weird, too that Valadius J. Rogers' dad is out so late partying himself.
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Valadius Nov 19 2007 08:50 PM |
Steve, where were you that you saw Castillo?
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seawolf17 Nov 19 2007 08:52 PM |
You might think that SteveJ is not the partying-with-Luis-Castillo type. But you would be very, very wrong.
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Willets Point Nov 19 2007 08:53 PM |
Pity. I had Arod penciled in at 2B.
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metirish Nov 19 2007 08:54 PM |
This is hilarious, between watching "talk soup " and reading this I am laughing so hard.
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Edgy DC Nov 19 2007 09:03 PM |
If I remember correctly, Steve got his ass bounced that night.
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 10:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 19 2007 10:05 PM |
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A bouncer at a club is someone in the know? If so, it is hard to take seriously anything you credit to "inside sources".
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 10:02 PM |
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NTTAWWT
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Elster88 Nov 19 2007 10:25 PM |
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This is not corroborrating. Reyes was being overworked and needed a day off.
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 09:36 AM |
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You mean Castillo.
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Elster88 Nov 20 2007 04:15 PM |
No I mean Reyes. Try to keep up.
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 04:23 PM |
Castillo was the one who it looked like would miss the start due to "exhaustion", not Reyes, my cousin and I saw him and Ruben Gotay that night at the Mets hotel bar. According to my cousin Castillo left circa 3 with Gotay and Oliver Perez to go back out into the early morning Chicago nightlife.
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Elster88 Nov 20 2007 04:28 PM |
Either way, it does nothing to corroborate the theory that Castillo corrupted Reyes.
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 04:35 PM |
Okay, I see that point.
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Edgy DC Nov 20 2007 06:02 PM |
So, Steve, you get your ass bounced, get a Met to stick up for you, and you rat him out, and dog him online?
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A Boy Named Seo Nov 20 2007 06:13 PM |
I need to read about Steve's ass getting bounced. Where can I find that thread?
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 07:19 PM |
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Agreeing that he is a party animal is not "rating him out and dogging" him!
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Edgy DC Nov 20 2007 07:27 PM |
Yeah, I'm going to guess that if somebody was suggesting that I wasn't game-ready because of my social life, or that I was corrupting younger players, I was being insulted.
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 07:58 PM |
Okay, from the top.
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 08:09 PM |
Probably best shot my cousin took
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 20 2007 08:12 PM |
nobody parties like rogers.
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Edgy DC Nov 20 2007 08:12 PM |
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SteveJRogers Nov 20 2007 08:17 PM |
Interestingly enough, as I was walking towards the Glavine crew my cousin was trying to get my attention because Lastings Milledge was in the area, but once he noticed who I was going towards he realized that I would rather say hello to a future HOFer than someone who still hasn't played a full season in the bigs!
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A Boy Named Seo Nov 21 2007 12:34 AM |
The guy in the yellow shirt looks pissed, Rogers. Bet he's the one that got you run.
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Valadius Nov 21 2007 12:47 AM |
Yeah - that's not Gotay. Whoever that is is too young and his nose is smaller.
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Kid Carsey Nov 21 2007 05:04 AM |
This thread has taken a turn to giving me the heebeegeebees.
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HahnSolo Nov 21 2007 06:52 AM |
That looks like a younger Rickey Ledee.
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seawolf17 Nov 21 2007 07:07 AM |
Every couple of weeks, we get one of these 'best thread ever' moments. This is indubitably one of those moments.
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Edgy DC Nov 21 2007 07:26 AM |
Gotay has been going hard on the botox.
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Valadius Nov 21 2007 08:04 AM |
I think it's Carlos Gomez.
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seawolf17 Nov 21 2007 08:14 AM |
I think Val's right. In Seo's post, top is Gomez, bottom is Gotay.
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HahnSolo Nov 21 2007 09:36 AM |
Doesn't look like Gomez to me.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 21 2007 09:46 AM |
I don't even know where to begin!
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sharpie Nov 21 2007 09:52 AM |
Greatness, in this case, equals Ruben Gotay and Carlos Gomez.
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soupcan Nov 21 2007 09:53 AM |
SteveJStalker.
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Centerfield Nov 21 2007 09:58 AM |
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Absolutely. It's going to be hard to top "Rogers Parties with the Mets in Chicago and Then Gets Thrown Out and Tackled by his Cousin."
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seawolf17 Nov 21 2007 10:03 AM |
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Which would be a great title for an old Waylon Jennings tune.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 21 2007 11:16 AM |
I like how the lesson that Steve draws from this is, essentially, that it's cheaper to take a subway than to take a cab.
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