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What the . . ? Dumbest Trade Rumors to Date

Rotblatt Dec 06 2007 02:00 PM

]The Mets made the strongest run at Rockies left-handed reliever Brian Fuentes, offering right-hander Aaron Heilman in a straight-up trade. The Rockies asked for lefty Scott Schoeneweis in addition to Heilman, and from there the talks disintegrated. [url=http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7528844]Fox[/url] This just boggles my mind. It's hopefully complete and utter bullshit, but the mere thought that a) the Mets would think Heilman for Fuentes was a good idea, and b) that "losing" Scott Schoeneweis and the remaining 2 years on his contract would be a bad idea, is utterly insane to me. For shits and giggles: Heilman, 29 YO (arb eligible for the first time in 2008) 86 IP, 3.03 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, 63 K, 20 BB Fuentes, 32 YO ($3.5M in 2008, then FA) 61.3 IP, 3.08 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 56 K, 23 BB Schowenweis, 34 YO ($7.2M left on contract through 2009) 59 IP, 5.03 ERA, 1.53 WHIP, 41 K, 28 BB So Heilman & Fuentes in terms of performance are kind of a push, but the fact that Heilman is a) younger, b) cheaper and c) under our control through 2010 would seem to tilt the scale heavily in his favor. Schowenweis, meanwhile, a) sucked big hairy moosecock last year, b) is old and c) is way overpaid. We should be begging teams to take him off our hands for a bag of balls. Again, the above rumor is probably complete horse manure, but just having it out there in the ether gets me excercised.

smg58 Dec 06 2007 02:19 PM Re: What the . . ? Dumbest Trade Rumors to Date

Saw that one too. I'd be interested in Fuentes as a complement to Heilman, but a straight-up trade would be of no benefit. If we can't find a 200 IP starter, Heilman would be extremely difficult to part with. I could see the Mets insisting on Schoeneweis getting thrown in, but certainly not the other way around.

RealityChuck Dec 06 2007 02:27 PM Nothing tops this one:

]Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey to A's Mets send Hector Pellot to Twins A's send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets A's send Dan Haren to Twins Twins send Johan Santana to Mets Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson A's get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot Did anyone even think this was a real possibility?

metirish Dec 06 2007 02:28 PM

Here's a doozy ] Rumor: Santana Madness Now Includes Haren and Reyes. Posted by pops as Johan Santana Rumors, Minnesota Twins Rumors, New York Yankees Rumors, Oakland A's Rumors MLB Trade Rumors has a “trusted New York sportswriter” talking about at giant three way deal between the Mets, Twins and A’s: Mets get Santana from the Twins and Crosby and Johnson from the A’s. Twins get Pellot from the Mets and Haren from the A’s A’s get Mulvey and Reyes from the Mets. http://yoursportsfix.com/mlbrumormill/archives/category/johan-santana-rumors Might be the first time I saw Hector Pellot get mentioned, creative.

smg58 Dec 06 2007 04:30 PM

Dan Johnson's not even as good as last year's Delgado. If you're going to scheme up something hopelessly convoluted, at least give us guys we can use.

Fman99 Dec 06 2007 06:57 PM Re: Nothing tops this one:

RealityChuck wrote: ]Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey to A's Mets send Hector Pellot to Twins A's send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets A's send Dan Haren to Twins Twins send Johan Santana to Mets Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson A's get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot Did anyone even think this was a real possibility? No. Three hitters (Johnson, Crosby and Schneider) who hit under .240 last year. Add Castillo's aversion to doubles, triples and HRs and an aging Delgado and you're looking at one weak-ass lineup. Even Omar I think would see it as folly.

vtmet Dec 06 2007 08:02 PM Re: What the . . ? Dumbest Trade Rumors to Date

Rotblatt wrote: ]The Mets made the strongest run at Rockies left-handed reliever Brian Fuentes, offering right-hander Aaron Heilman in a straight-up trade. The Rockies asked for lefty Scott Schoeneweis in addition to Heilman, and from there the talks disintegrated. [url=http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7528844]Fox[/url] This just boggles my mind. It's hopefully complete and utter bullshit, but the mere thought that a) the Mets would think Heilman for Fuentes was a good idea, and b) that "losing" Scott Schoeneweis and the remaining 2 years on his contract would be a bad idea, is utterly insane to me. So Heilman & Fuentes in terms of performance are kind of a push, but the fact that Heilman is a) younger, b) cheaper and c) under our control through 2010 would seem to tilt the scale heavily in his favor. Schowenweis, meanwhile, a) sucked big hairy moosecock last year, b) is old and c) is way overpaid. We should be begging teams to take him off our hands for a bag of balls. Again, the above rumor is probably complete horse manure, but just having it out there in the ether gets me excercised. One thing that makes wonder about the logic of the guy that invented this WATP is...The Mets have 3 lefty relievers in: Feliciano, Schoeneweiss and Wagner...and they are "thin" in RH relievers...so why would we trade our only reliable RH reliever, for another fickle lefty?

RealityChuck Dec 06 2007 08:12 PM

Also, when was the last time there was a three-team trade for any big name players? I can remember the Benitez trade, but that was really two trades -- Mets/Dodgers and quick turnaround for Charles Johnson to the Orioles for Benetez. AFAIK, the Orioles and Dodgers did not exchange players. A truly three-sided trade is next to impossible to set up, even for minor leaguers, and when you're dealing with Reyes, Haren, and Santana, I can't believe the website reporting it didn't think it was crazy to consider it. It ranks up with the classic "Yogi Berra for Tom Haller" trade hoax of 1961. That was deliberately concocted by a group of sportswriters (notably Stan Isaacs). No one believed that one at first until the kicker -- that Berra was being traded to manage the Giants. Isaacs added that to the hoax in order to make it even more absurd, since the idea of Berra managing seemed ridiculous to the sportswriters (Yogi was primiarly known as a clown). Isaacs later claimed that the reason Berra became Yankee manager was that the hoax made the Yankees look at him differently, as a potential manager.

Edgy DC Dec 06 2007 08:41 PM

The trade that brought us back Burnitz was pretty big.

Valadius Dec 07 2007 12:37 PM

There was that four-team trade involving Nomar, Orlando Cabrera, Mientkiewicz, etc. in '04.