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Mets Raising Ticket Prices for 2008 and other Ticket News
| Gwreck Dec 15 2007 08:53 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 17 2007 11:34 AM |
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No, they haven't officially announced the prices yet but since I got my renewal invoice for my ticket plan much of the information can be deduced or is available if you count up the little boxes on the schedule they sent.
Ticket Prices Not only have the Mets increased the number of higher-priced games, they are also increasing ticket prices.
Other Miscellaneous Ticket News The "Platinum Games" this year are opening day, the series vs. the Yankees, and also the last regular season game at Shea. Look for the same ridiculous "lottery" they used last year to return, for the aforementioned games. [Edit: I don't know why there are huge spaces between the text and the HTML tables. Can anyone assist? Yes. Done. Just don't put line breaks between the tags in your tables.
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| A Boy Named Seo Dec 15 2007 09:08 PM |
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Get rid of any spaces in your table and you should be cool.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 15 2007 09:09 PM |
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Silver (20.7%) and Bronze (22.2%) games using those numbers are taking it the hardest: Fewer games and higher percent price increases. Your "value" goes up if you can afford the Gold and Platinum, and since the supply there is greater, you might have to.
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| Nymr83 Dec 15 2007 09:12 PM |
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all i care about is the price of the cheapest ticket that'll get you into the building, is the upper deck going up?
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| Frayed Knot Dec 15 2007 09:16 PM |
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Essentially they're taking advantage of the fact that they expect a buying bump from the great Shea farewell tour. IOW, it's basic supply and demand even though I'm sure many will jump on the increase as unwarranted due to last season's late-season collapse and the mistaken assumption that record and seat price should somehow directly correspond.
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| Gwreck Dec 15 2007 10:14 PM |
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There's nothing mistaken about that. Where is the money going from the increased ticket prices? What improvements have they made to the game experience at Shea? (Answer: none). What improvements have they made to the product on the field? (Answer: none). What reasonable justification do they have for so arbitrarily raising the prices? (Answer: none). In fairness, more even than the ticket price increase, I'm pissed as a plan holder because they supposedly give us a "pre-sale" for single game tickets. But then they exclude the games (opening day, last game of the season, Yankees games) that I would actually use the benefit for. I mean, I'm already buying 25 games. They can't even give me the presale access for opening day, I have to enter the lottery like everyone else who isn't investing in the ticket plans?
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| Nymr83 Dec 16 2007 02:01 AM |
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of course if they did give you access to those games in a "pre sale" other people would complain that there were no tickets for them and that only mr. rich guy with a ticket plan gets to attend opening day, so the Mets can't win either way there.
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| Kid Carsey Dec 16 2007 06:28 AM |
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Gw: >>>What improvements have they made to the product on the field?
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| Frayed Knot Dec 16 2007 07:52 AM |
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Are there businesses you deal with that DO give you itemized reasons for an increase as well as an updated accouting their spending when they raise their prices? No one's saying you have to like the increases. But sports fans are too often under the impression that the laws of supply and demand should get suspended when it comes to ticket prices, or that there has to be some sort of direct correlation to ML payroll size (what direction are the cost of tickets to college football/hoops trending?). The Mets are coming off a year with (a big) increased demand and they're banking on next year being another one. If they're right they stand to add a good chunk of revenue towards their bottom line. And if they're wrong they'll take a hit on this both in bad pr and in empty seats which will make them think twice about doing it again.
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| Fman99 Dec 16 2007 09:28 AM |
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Real nervey of a team that performs the biggest September choke job in the history of baseball to then jack up the prices. Good stuff.
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| Gwreck Dec 16 2007 11:11 AM |
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I don't think it's necessarily a stretch to suggest that adhering to the law of supply and demand only is not appropriate for things like entertainment, the arts, professional sports, etc. Without some checks on pricing, the law of supply and demand would simply remove a certain portion of the population's access to them and such things would effectively be reserved for the wealthy and super-wealthy. |
| Edgy DC Dec 16 2007 11:21 AM |
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I have no problem with supply and demand setting the price, even if it knocks some folks out of the stadium.
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| Gwreck Dec 17 2007 11:32 AM |
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Some updated information:
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| Nymr83 Dec 17 2007 12:21 PM |
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last year the upper deck was 25/20/17/9/5 theres no reason NOT to raise the prices on the platinum games (which amount to opening day and the skankees) they'll sell those out even at $50 i'd guess the big jump on the gold games tells me that they really expect a huge boost from this being shea's last season... or maybe they're trying to get the fans conditioned to think these prices are fine when the new joint opens.
there is nothing stopping other leagues from opening up. the only thing being prevented right now is another MLB team moving into the area and on that point i'd be willing to agree that the teams should be able to go wherever the heck they want
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| Edgy DC Dec 17 2007 12:48 PM |
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I agree. But one thing stopping startup leagues from entering territory of established leagues is the sweetheart deals established leagues have gotten on homes.
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| Nymr83 Dec 17 2007 01:16 PM |
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I think you're complaining about government here, not anything specific to MLB. These same things happen in all fields of business, the government is going to give the estblished entity (be it a hotel chain, a supermarket chain, whatever) tax breaks or other benefits because the government thinks there is either a real beneit or perceived benefit (in the eyes of those who must re-elect them) in doing so. No help will be forthcoming for Joe Shmoe's Motel chain compared to the new Hilton.
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| Edgy DC Dec 17 2007 01:20 PM |
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I didn't mean to suggest such sweetheart deals were specific to MLB.
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| Valadius Dec 17 2007 03:01 PM |
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I think this has to do with their need to raise prices next year when they have fewer seats in the park.
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| metirish Dec 18 2007 12:16 PM |
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[url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spbest185506011dec18,0,2838773.column]Neil Best[/url]
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| Valadius Dec 18 2007 12:55 PM |
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It's just stupid, in my opinion. In the largest market in the country, why the hell would they make a smaller stadium? It robs a hell of a lot of fans the chance to catch a game.
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| Vic Sage Dec 18 2007 01:24 PM |
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its not stupid at all, from a business perspective. As the article points out, an additional 5,000-10,000 seats would cost more to build but generate the least revenue. Also, the perception of "scarcity" allows them to charge more, and encourages people to buy in advance, which both consitute additional profit to the team.
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| Valadius Dec 18 2007 01:26 PM |
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It's doing a disservice to the fanbase. Not everything should be about money.
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| Nymr83 Dec 18 2007 01:27 PM |
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exploitation? please.
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| Vic Sage Dec 18 2007 01:31 PM |
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i just KNEW i'd get a rise out of you with that one. And Valadius, why wouldn't it be about money? Its a comercial enterprise, not a non-profit institution with a public purpose. If you want your economy to have some morality, NYM83 will deride you like the pinko you are!
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| Nymr83 Dec 18 2007 01:39 PM |
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communist propoganda generally gets a rise out of me, yes.
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| Edgy DC Dec 18 2007 01:39 PM |
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We're all perfectly free to enjoy non-profit baseball. We can even market it ourselves.
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| Nymr83 Dec 18 2007 01:41 PM |
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who is the first pick in the new not for profit CPF league? can anyone here pitch?
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| Edgy DC Dec 18 2007 01:47 PM |
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I can pitch woo.
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| Vic Sage Dec 18 2007 01:50 PM |
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your typical bullshit. the "exploitation" comes from excluding those least able to buy their product. They cut seating capacity by 10,000 seats. These aren't field level box seats they're cutting... its the cheap seats in the upper deck. So the working poor, who used to take their family to 1 or 2 games a year for $5/ticket have been priced out of the market, so Wilpon can sell more luxury boxes. These families aren't deciding between a Mets game and a book. Books don't cost $100 (4 tix, plus a program, and train fare to our new park). They'll have to choose between a Mets game and rent. And your "let them eat cake" response that they should "go watch it on TV" doesn't deal with (1) the fact that Mets games are mostly on pay cable, not free broadcast, so it still costs alot to see them, even on tv, and (2) the fact that going to a game is a different experience entirely... for some of us, a life-changing experience... that working class people will be effectively excluded from. I understand that this is fine with you. But as i said to Valadius, if he wants a society with some kind of morality built into the allocation of resources, a pure market economy is not the way to go.
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| Nymr83 Dec 18 2007 02:18 PM |
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this is YOUR typical bullshit.
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| Vic Sage Dec 18 2007 03:11 PM |
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what you refuse to acknowledge is that they've eliminated about 10,000 of those "cheap seats", making them scarce and thus harder to obtain and fewer people will have access to them.
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| Nymr83 Dec 18 2007 04:08 PM |
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i apologize because i thought we were talking about the rise in ticket prices this yearr as oppose to the new stadium. i will reserve judgment on the new stadium until i actually see the prices.
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| Vic Sage Dec 19 2007 08:23 AM |
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there i agree with you.
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