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Don't Walk Trivia

Edgy DC
Dec 20 2007 11:24 AM

Ozzie Guillen, both of his first two years, walked only 12 times in over a 150 games played, a record that he set and equaled.

He would go on to break that record with an 11 in 1991 and a 10 in 1996. How embarrassing. How hard to beat. He is now a similarly shameless manager.

Which ex-Met's record did he break?

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 11:00 AM

Yeah, not everybody so fast.

Try this one on: Three Met starters won ERA titles after being dealt by the Mets. Who are these guys?

Centerfield
Dec 21 2007 11:06 AM

Guessing:

Nolan Ryan
David Cone

um. That's all I got.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 21 2007 11:14 AM

1. Millan.

2. Um.. Roy Leee Jackson and Jerry Koosman

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 11:30 AM

]Nolan Ryan

No.

]David Cone

No.

]Millan.

No.

]Roy Leee Jackson

Roy Lee Jackson?

]Jerry Koosman

No.

DocTee
Dec 21 2007 12:15 PM

Ryan won an ERA title with Houston in a year when he was 8-16. Are you asking for guys who won in the year immediately folllowing their departure?

I'll guess Seaver is one.

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 12:18 PM

Ryan is correct.

George Thomas Seaver won three ERA titles in four years from 1970 to 1973, all with the Mets.

Two more fellas. They don't have to have won in the year after they were traded, as the correctness of Ryan has demonstrated.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 21 2007 12:20 PM

Buzz Capra.

Mike Scott?

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 12:33 PM

Correct and correct.

Buzz could never break an unbreakable Mets rotation, so he was sold to Atlanta, where he was suddenly busted up to 218 innings, won an ERA title, and never pitched effectively again.

The Mets might have known he was capable of something like that, as he went something like 44-18 in the minors.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 21 2007 12:48 PM

As I've been reviewing Mets minor league stats, I've seen a bunch of really impressive seasons. I then think, wow, this guy could turn out to be pretty good and I momentarily get a surge of excitement.

Then I realize that the player is now deep into his fifties and it's become too late for him to fulfill his promise.

smg58
Dec 21 2007 12:52 PM
Re: Don't Walk Trivia

Edgy DC wrote:
Ozzie Guillen, both of his first two years, walked only 12 times in over a 150 games played, a record that he set and equaled.

He would go on to break that record with an 11 in 1991 and a 10 in 1996. How embarrassing. How hard to beat. He is now a similarly shameless manager.

Which ex-Met's record did he break?


Mookie Wilson?

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 12:56 PM

No.

The ex-Met, for what it's worth, didn't set the record with the Mets.

RealityChuck
Dec 21 2007 01:03 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Correct and correct.

Buzz could never break an unbreakable Mets rotation, so he was sold to Atlanta, where he was suddenly busted up to 218 innings, won an ERA title, and never pitched effectively again.

The Mets might have known he was capable of something like that, as he went something like 44-18 in the minors.
he was probably traded because Ralph Kiner never could pronounce his name. "Buzz Capray" was the best he could do.

Fman99
Dec 21 2007 02:28 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
No.

The ex-Met, for what it's worth, didn't set the record with the Mets.


Was it Shaw(o)n Dunston? I seem to recall he rarely took a BB in his playing days.

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 02:39 PM

Yeah, but, next to the his crosstown rival Guillen, Dunston was downright picky about swinging the bat.

I'll hint this one out of youse so's'n we can close the book on it before the holidays. Five big fat hints coming.

  1. He had a great nickname.


  2. He had two tours of duty with the Mets.


  3. I didn't think he was very good.


  4. Nonetheless, when he was traded the second time, many on the team that received him would consider the deal the turning point to a championship.


  5. It were a challenge trade.

Valadius
Dec 21 2007 04:05 PM

Tim Foli?

Edgy DC
Dec 21 2007 05:33 PM

Tim Foli.

Crazy Horse walked 14 times in 150 gmes for the 1982 Angels.

Fman99
Dec 22 2007 10:30 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
Tim Foli.

Crazy Horse walked 14 times in 150 gmes for the 1982 Angels.


I was close... I looked it up and Dunston took 16 walks in 150 games for the '88 Cubs.