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cooby Dec 05 2007 05:09 PM

Of course I watched Rudolph last night; I hope we all did! Two Rudolph questions: 1) What is wrong with the little doll? Why is she on the Island of Misfit Toys? 2) How do they get those tulips to bloom in the window boxes at the North Pole? I love that show :)

DocTee Dec 05 2007 05:34 PM

Even better: when the elf is dropping the misfit toys from Santa's sled, he gives each an umbrella to slow their descent. Each, that is, except for the bird, who can't fly! (he swims)

Edgy DC Dec 05 2007 05:41 PM

We've discussed this. The dolly's problem is that she can't keep her skirt down. She's got fantastic singing voice, however. I assume the bird, though unable to fly, can glide. Did they cut "My World Is Beginning Today" this year?

seawolf17 Dec 05 2007 05:50 PM

Word is that Dolly has psychological problems. Funny - last night, Ms. Wolf asked me the same two questions that Cooby asked. By the way, NOT a kid's show. It's just not. Santa's a dick.

Kid Carsey Dec 05 2007 05:59 PM

Just found our xmas shows yesterday. Rudolph, Christmas Vacation, Grinch, Frosty, and Finney version of Scrooge on DVD. It's a Wonderful Life on tape. Too early to watch any of that stuff for me. I like to do it when the tree is up.

themetfairy Dec 05 2007 06:04 PM

A Charlie Brown Christmas has been on a couple of times this season. I caught it once with my older son and once with my little guy :)

Kid Carsey Dec 05 2007 06:08 PM

I'll add that one to the amazon cart we spoke of the other day.

Centerfield Dec 05 2007 07:47 PM

By the way, I hope nobody believes that crap that's been circulating about Rudolph cutting me out of negotiations and dealing directly with Norrin and Santa. That's all just bullshit PR.

DocTee Dec 05 2007 08:10 PM

Yes, we need that re-posted, and pronto... along with Val's splendid rendition of "Twas the Night Before Christmas."

themetfairy Dec 05 2007 08:56 PM

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metirish Dec 05 2007 09:15 PM

One of my faves to watch is National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, always cheers me up.

HahnSolo Dec 06 2007 07:32 AM

Seeing Rudolph again reminded me how big of an a-hole Santa was in that one. Also, I saved this, which I found on another message board a couple of years ago: Let's revisit our gripes about this amazing classic. 1. Santa is a d**k. Santa the benelovent. Santa the kind. Santa the great. Santa the d**k mocks Rudolph for having a red nose. Prejudice much, fat man? Is this a representation that Christmas is only for those without defects? Then the rest of Christmastown joins in. So basically, you're a minority, you can't join in any reindeer games. OK then. Then, after basically opening the door for Rudolph's departure from Christmastown, who does he come crawling back to Rudolph when a little snowstorm hits. Rudolph should have told Santa to "Kiss his furry brown ass, douche bag - me and the babe have a fifth of Tequila and we're flying to Tahiti." Oh, if Santa is so great, then why does he continuously diss and ignore the Misfit Toys? 2. Quality Control in Christmastown Seguing here, we have the Misfit Toys. An elephant with spots. A train with square wheels. A dolly....what is wrong with her? (More later). A Charlie in the Box. What do they all have in common? All are toys...and where are toys made? At Christmastown. Who the hell is running quality control up there? 3. Real Generous, You Flying Lion The gang reaches the Island of Misfit Toys. They've been riding through the f**king North Pole. It's cold there. It's windy there. Again, people, it's the NORTH POLE. They reach the Island of Misfit Toys. The leader lets them stay for all of....one night. Thanks, a-hole. 4. Beastiality and Homosexuality At the Island of Misfit Toys, Rudolph, Hermie and Yukon Cornelius all sleep in the same bed. Then, later, Rudolph leaves. But I don't see Yukon or Hermie missing him that much, do you? 5. Women's Rights Now comes the Bumble. The big fight. But who saves the day? It's Rudolph's Mom and Clarisse. Oh, but then Sam the Snowman says "get the womenfolk back to Christmastown." Sure...after saving their asses, the men decide that the women need to get the hell out. Nice. 6. Lacking the Cardiologists Seal of Approval Santa goes on an eating binge to get all fat within a week? How 'bout dem arteries, jolly man? This just in....Santa Has Quadruple By-Pass Surgery! 7. More Beastiality Yukon Cornelius, fresh from doing a Reindeer and an Elf, turns his sights to a giant abominable snowman. I think we know what he's after there, huh. Was it me or did Yukon walk a little bowlegged when he appeared back at the Castle? 8. Let's Hide the Mental Illness What was really wrong with the Dolly named Sue? According to articles that people posted here last year and in 2003, it's suspected that she suffers from depression. Of course, we don't hear this - they just push mental illness under the table, hoping that we ignore it.

MFS62 Dec 06 2007 07:50 AM

Caught the very end of a commercial that was selling a DVD with EIGHT of the fave holiday videos, including (I think heard) Rudolph and Frosty. Anyone else catch the other shows and where to get the DVD? Later

Edgy DC Dec 06 2007 08:07 AM

The decline in quality when you get to Rudolph and Frosty is pretty steep. Rudolph and Frosty is actually Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July (1979). It features Red Buttons, Ethel Merman, Mickey Rooney, and Shelley Winters --- which is pretty incredible, when you think that Ethel and Shelley traditionally get the same roles, busty, fat, and vulgar women, and Mickey and Red are in the casting pool for funny roundish tipsy guys. It's awful --- clearly an attempt by the Rankin/Bass mafia to expand their market into the summer, having flooded the holidays with their declining crap. I have a soft spot for the two actual Christmas stories --- but The Little Drummer Boy is very superior to Nestor the Long-Eared Donkey --- which features Brenda Vaccaro as a cherub, easily the most annoying characterization in the R/B universe.

Edgy DC Dec 06 2007 08:20 AM

Arthur Rankin, by the way, confirms that Dolly's issues are psychological.

Willets Point Dec 06 2007 08:52 AM

Three Wise Camels.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 06 2007 11:09 AM

My favorites are the Grinch and the Charlie Brown Christmas, which appears to have the same issues with acceptance of those who might be a little different. I also like an old movie called "The Gathering" with Ed Asner and Maureen Stapleton. (Basically, cranky guy who has pissed off his entire family learns he's dying and wants to get them all back together one last time.) It's not on DVD and impossible to find on VHS -- I found one years ago. My wife absolutely hates it, so I have to either watch it alone or watch it with Mystery Science Theater-style riffing frm her.

Edgy DC Dec 06 2007 11:16 AM

The difference with the Grinch and CB is that the cruel ostracization is not led by the most generous person on earth, and a character based on the patron saint of children.

metsguyinmichigan Dec 06 2007 11:27 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The difference with the Grinch and CB is that the cruel ostracization is not led by the most generous person on earth, and a character based on the patron saint of children. Oh, absolutely. When we watched it the other night, at the point where Santa tells Rudolph's father that he ought to be ashamed, my wife said, "Santa's an asshole. He'd have to cross himself off his own list."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 06 2007 11:34 AM

cooby Dec 06 2007 05:49 PM

]Now comes the Bumble. The big fight. But who saves the day? It's Rudolph's Mom and Clarisse. Oh, but then Sam the Snowman says "get the women back to Christmastown." Sure...after saving their asses, the men decide that the women need to get the hell out. Nice. That line cracks me up. Especially because of the gruff, manly sort of man tone Burl Ive's voice takes on when he says it.

DocTee Dec 06 2007 07:23 PM

Old School: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hrPg-7m5Y4I

Edgy DC Dec 06 2007 08:34 PM

Insane school.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 17 2007 02:22 PM

I used to really enjoy those Rankin Bass Christmas specials when I was a kid, especially Santa Claus is Coming to Town. As an adult, though, watching them with my kids, I was surprised and disappointed to find them unbearable. I guess some things stick with you when you grow up, and some don't. This year the only Christmas special I've watched is Shrek the Halls which was clever and fun. I probably won't watch any others. My kids don't seem too caught up in them anymore either. They'd rather watch Zach and Cody or Keenan and Kel.

Vic Sage Dec 18 2007 11:20 AM

how does that guy get away with posting an ENTIRE fleischer cartoon? that's not a fair use, that's infringement. It's bad enough that the inferior Disney beat out Fleischer in the marketplace in the 1930s-40s. Now the Fleischers get screwed out of royalties through a whole new distribution medium.

metsmarathon Dec 18 2007 12:48 PM

i don't know why, but i absolutely love nestor the long eared donkey, if only for the sheer absurdity of it all.

Valadius Dec 18 2007 01:03 PM

Ever heard of Rifftrax? They're by the same people who did Mystery Science Theater. One of them is for Nestor the Christmas Donkey, and the preview, at least, is hilarious.

Edgy DC Dec 18 2007 01:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 18 2007 01:49 PM

That's not MST3000. The voices doing the alleged riffing are full of more smug actorilness than the actors in the film. Nestor deserves better.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 18 2007 01:48 PM

It's like the post-Joel MST3K crew -- the replacement live host (Mike Nelson) and replacement voices for Servo and Crow.