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Benjamin Grimm
Aug 10 2005 08:56 AM

Here's a new kind of prediction thread. I'm going to list the names of ten players who are currently in the Mets organization. For each player, give a number, from 0 to 10, indicating how likely you think it is that he'll still be Mets property on Opening Day, 2006. (He doesn't have to be on the active roster. If he's in the minors or on the DL, it still counts as being present.)

If you think a player is definitely not returning, vote 0. Definitely returning, vote 10.

For every player who does return, your score will be the number you assigned to him.

For every player who's gone by Opening Day, your score will be 10 minus your number.

Example: You think Player A is unlikely to return, but you think there's a slight possibility that he will, so you give him a 3. If he does return, you were pretty wrong, so you only get 3 points. If he doesn't, you were mostly right, so you get 7.

A perfect score is 100. To get it you have to vote 0 or 10 for every player, and be correct every time.

You can guarantee yourself a wishy-washy 50 by voting 5 for every player.

Rumors may start swirling as we get closer to August 31, so the sooner you vote the more pure your guess will be. Voting will be closed once one of the ten departs, or August 31, whichever comes first.

Here are the ten players, in alphabetical order:

Cameron, Mike
Floyd, Cliff
Glavine, Tom
Looper, Braden
Matsui, Kaz
Mientkiewicz, Doug
Milledge, Lastings
Piazza, Mike
Seo, Jae Wong
Trachsel, Steve

metirish
Aug 10 2005 09:01 AM

Cameron, Mike - 10
Floyd, Cliff - 10
Glavine, Tom - 10
Looper, Braden - 6
Matsui, Kaz - 8
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 0
Milledge, Lastings - 4
Piazza, Mike - 8
Seo, Jae Wong - 6
Trachsel, Steve - 8

Frayed Knot
Aug 10 2005 09:05 AM

Cameron, Mike - 6
Floyd, Cliff - 9
Glavine, Tom - 9
Looper, Braden - 3
Matsui, Kaz - 4
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 1
Milledge, Lastings - 8
Piazza, Mike - 2
Seo, Jae Wong - 6
Trachsel, Steve - 6

Edgy MD
Aug 10 2005 09:07 AM

Cameron, Mike 7
Floyd, Cliff 9
Glavine, Tom 3
Looper, Braden 6
Matsui, Kaz 5
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 8
Piazza, Mike 3
Seo, Jae Weong 4
Trachsel, Steve 5

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 10 2005 09:08 AM

Cameron, Mike 8
Floyd, Cliff 8
Glavine, Tom 7
Looper, Braden 4
Matsui, Kaz 4
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 6
Piazza, Mike 3
Seo, Jae Wong 6
Trachsel, Steve 7

metirish
Aug 10 2005 09:09 AM

I know my 8 for Piazza seems crazy but I have a feeling he might stay, actually 8 is a strong feeling but you never know.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 10 2005 09:16 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 10 2005 12:58 PM

Cameron, Mike 5
Floyd, Cliff 10
Glavine, Tom 5
Looper, Braden 3
Matsui, Kaz 2
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 10
Piazza, Mike 5
Seo, Jae Wong 4
Trachsel, Steve 6

NOTE: I edited Millege not realizing that if he was minor league he still counted.

Vic Sage
Aug 10 2005 11:25 AM

Cameron, Mike - 5
Floyd, Cliff - 7
Glavine, Tom - 7
Looper, Braden - 8
Matsui, Kaz - 3
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 1
Milledge, Lastings - 9
Piazza, Mike - 1
Seo, Jae Wong - 3
Trachsel, Steve - 6

rpackrat
Aug 10 2005 11:37 AM

Cameron, Mike - 5
Floyd, Cliff - 8
Glavine, Tom - 8
Looper, Braden - 3
Matsui, Kaz - 4
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 1
Milledge, Lastings - 10
Piazza, Mike -2
Seo, Jae Wong - 7
Trachsel, Steve - 7

86-Dreamer
Aug 10 2005 12:31 PM

Cameron, Mike 1
Floyd, Cliff 10
Glavine, Tom 10
Looper, Braden 5
Matsui, Kaz 1
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 10
Piazza, Mike 2
Seo, Jae Wong 7
Trachsel, Steve 3

Rotblatt
Aug 10 2005 12:57 PM

Cameron, Mike 0
Floyd, Cliff 10
Glavine, Tom 10
Looper, Braden 10
Matsui, Kaz 0
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 0
Piazza, Mike 0
Seo, Jae Wong 10
Trachsel, Steve 10

I'm going for broke. We will package Cam with Milledge and acquire Manny, trade K-Mat for a washed-up prospect (whereupon K-Mat will put up monster numbers in his new town), release Dougie, who will get a full-time job for a scrub team that will make a surprising run at the post-season in 2006 but fall short & we will release Piazza, who will become the DH/C for a West-Coast AL team.

Milledge will be moved along with 2 other prospects for Adam Dunn, who will play first. Also on the Sox, Cameron will play centerfield, while Damon will sign a 5-year, $70M deal with the MFY.

Cliff & Trachs will stay because we want them, Glavine because we couldn't deal him, and Seo because we want the Tides to win it all next year.

You heard it all here first.

Nymr83
Aug 10 2005 01:20 PM

Cameron, Mike - 9
Floyd, Cliff - 10
Glavine, Tom - 10
Looper, Braden - 10
Matsui, Kaz - 0
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 3
Milledge, Lastings - 7
Piazza, Mike - 5
Seo, Jae Wong - 10
Tachsel, Steve - 10

byebye kazmat! (p.s. take ishii with you)

SwitchHitter
Aug 10 2005 01:37 PM

Cameron, Mike 10
Floyd, Cliff 10
Glavine, Tom 10
Looper, Braden 8
Matsui, Kaz 6
Mientkiewicz, Doug 2
Milledge, Lastings 6
Piazza, Mike 6
Seo, Jae Wong 8
Trachsel, Steve 8

ScarletKnight41
Aug 10 2005 01:54 PM

Cameron, Mike - 5
Floyd, Cliff - 7
Glavine, Tom - 6
Looper, Braden - 6
Matsui, Kaz - 2
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 5
Milledge, Lastings - 9
Piazza, Mike - 2
Seo, Jae Wong - 7
Trachsel, Steve - 7

metsmarathon
Aug 10 2005 02:37 PM

Cameron, Mike 7
Floyd, Cliff 8
Glavine, Tom 3
Looper, Braden 3
Matsui, Kaz 2
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 10
Piazza, Mike 10
Seo, Jae Wong 10
Trachsel, Steve 8

dgwphotography
Aug 10 2005 05:10 PM

Cameron, Mike 5
Floyd, Cliff 9
Glavine, Tom 3
Looper, Braden 3
Matsui, Kaz 2
Mientkiewicz, Doug 4
Milledge, Lastings 10
Piazza, Mike 9
Seo, Jae Wong 8
Trachsel, Steve 7

DocTee
Aug 10 2005 06:47 PM

Cameron, Mike - 4
Floyd, Cliff - 9
Glavine, Tom - 4
Looper, Braden - 8
Matsui, Kaz - 2
Mientkiewicz, Doug - 1
Milledge, Lastings - 8
Piazza, Mike - 6
Seo, Jae Wong - 7
Trachsel, Steve - 6

seawolf17
Aug 10 2005 06:56 PM

I wanted to go all tens and zeroes, but Rotty stole my thunder. So I'll mix it up a bit...

Cameron, Mike 0
Floyd, Cliff 7
Glavine, Tom 7
Looper, Braden 7
Matsui, Kaz 3
Mientkiewicz, Doug 0
Milledge, Lastings 3
Piazza, Mike 0
Seo, Jae Weong 7
Trachsel, Steve 10

TheOldMole
Aug 10 2005 08:19 PM

Cameron, Mike 6
Floyd, Cliff 9
Glavine, Tom 7
Looper, Braden 7
Matsui, Kaz 4
Mientkiewicz, Doug 5
Milledge, Lastings 9
Piazza, Mike 3
Seo, Jae Wong 1
Trachsel, Steve 8

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2005 08:28 AM

It's time to archive this prediction thread.

If we remember, we'll revisit it after Opening Day and see how we've all done.

Winner gets a photo of Jane Jarvis.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 03 2005 12:09 PM

Here's how everybody voted. Our consensus seems to be that Floyd is most likely to stay, and Mientkiewicz (remember him?) most likely to leave. The Points column all the way to the right are our current scores, with everybody still here. As players leave, the listing will be updated.

In the unlikely event that everyone does stay, Namor and Annie will be our winners, tied at 74 points.

And yes, I do have another magic spreadsheet going here. I've also figured out that the only way I can win this meaningless little competition is if Cameron, Floyd, and Trachsel stay, and everyone else goes.

CameronFloydGlavineLooperMatsuiMientkiewiczMilledgePiazzaSeoTrachselPoints
metirish101010680486870
Frayed Knot 699341826654
Edgy DC 793650834550
Yancy Street Gang 887440636753
Johnny Dickshot 51053201054650
Vic Sage 577831913650
rpackrat5883411027755
86 Dreamer 110105101027349
Rotblatt01010100000101050
Nymr8391010100375101074
SwitchHitter101010862668874
ScarletKnight41576625927756
metsmarathon783320101010861
Iubitul5933241098760
DocTee494821867655
seawolf170777303071044
TheOldMole697745931859
Average5.478.827.005.883.061.357.473.946.537.18

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 23 2005 09:22 AM

With Cameron gone, Rotblatt and seawolf get a big ten points, and 86 Dreamer gets 9. If nobody else leaves, though, Namor will be our winner.

CameronFloydGlavineLooperMatsuiMientkiewiczMilledgePiazzaSeoTrachselPoints
metirish01010680486860
Frayed Knot 499341826652
Edgy DC 393650834546
Yancy Street Gang 287440636747
Johnny Dickshot 51053201054650
Vic Sage 577831913650
rpackrat5883411027755
86 Dreamer 910105101027357
Rotblatt101010100000101060
Nymr8311010100375101066
SwitchHitter01010862668864
ScarletKnight41576625927756
metsmarathon383320101010857
Iubitul5933241098760
DocTee694821867657
seawolf1710777303071054
TheOldMole497745931857
Average4.538.827.005.883.061.357.473.946.537.18



Nymr8366
SwitchHitter64
metirish60
Iubitul60
Rotblatt60
metsmarathon57
TheOldMole57
DocTee57
86 Dreamer 57
ScarletKnight4156
rpackrat55
seawolf1754
Frayed Knot 52
Vic Sage 50
Johnny Dickshot 50
Yancy Street Gang 47
Edgy DC 46

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2005 09:10 AM

Piazza, Looper, and Mientkiewicz are now all officially gone, so here are the updated scores.

Namor's certainty in Looper's return costs him, as does his hedging on Piazza and Mientkiewicz.

The ultimate fates of Matsui and Milledge will probably decide this contest.

CameronFloydGlavineLooperMatsuiMientkiewiczMilledgePiazzaSeoTrachselPoints
metirish010104810426862
Frayed Knot 499749886670
Edgy DC 3934510874558
Yancy Street Gang 2876410676763
Johnny Dickshot 510572101054664
Vic Sage 577239993660
rpackrat5887491087773
86 Dreamer 9101051101087373
Rotblatt1010100010010101070
Nymr831101000775101060
SwitchHitter01010268648862
ScarletKnight41576425987760
metsmarathon383721010010861
Iubitul5937261018758
DocTee694229847657
seawolf171077331031071070
TheOldMole497345971857
Average4.538.827.004.123.068.657.476.066.537.18


86 Dreamer 73
rpackrat73
Rotblatt70
seawolf1770
Frayed Knot 70
Johnny Dickshot 64
Yancy Street Gang 63
SwitchHitter62
metirish62
metsmarathon61
Nymr8360
ScarletKnight4160
Vic Sage 60
Iubitul58
Edgy DC 58
TheOldMole57
DocTee57

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 02 2006 07:38 AM

I know that nobody's terribly interested in this, including myself. Here's the latest update, to reflect the departure of Jae Seo. Old Mole and Vic Sage were most confident that Seo would be gone, and now reap the benefits by moving up in the standings. Rotblatt, Namor, and Marathon were sure Seo wouldn't go, and drop accordingly.

86 Dreamer 69
rpackrat69
Frayed Knot 68
seawolf1766
Johnny Dickshot 66
TheOldMole65
Vic Sage 64
Yancy Street Gang 61
Rotblatt60
metirish60
Edgy DC 60
SwitchHitter56
ScarletKnight4156
DocTee53
Iubitul52
metsmarathon51
Nymr8350



CameronFloydGlavineLooperMatsuiMientkiewiczMilledgePiazzaSeoTrachselPoints
metirish010104810424860
Frayed Knot 499749884668
Edgy DC 3934510876560
Yancy Street Gang 2876410674761
Johnny Dickshot 510572101056666
Vic Sage 577239997664
rpackrat5887491083769
86 Dreamer 9101051101083369
Rotblatt101010001001001060
Nymr83110100077501050
SwitchHitter01010268642856
ScarletKnight41576425983756
metsmarathon38372101000851
Iubitul5937261012752
DocTee694229843653
seawolf171077331031031066
TheOldMole497345979865
Average4.538.827.004.123.068.657.476.063.477.18

cooby
Feb 02 2006 08:35 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I know that nobody's terribly interested in this, including myself.



A good prize might get them more worked up about it, Yancy

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 02 2006 08:51 AM

How about a date with Lisa Loeb, or whatever her name is?

cooby
Feb 02 2006 08:54 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 02 2006 08:59 AM

That's one contest I'd try to lose on purpose

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 02 2006 08:57 AM

Hey, we both have 1969 Mets sitting on our heads!

cooby
Feb 02 2006 08:58 AM

Yeah, what's up with Jerry Grote? Is he #2, maybe?

Edgy MD
Apr 27 2006 05:20 PM

Was this scoring final. This was a good idea, if cumbersome for Yancy.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2006 05:33 PM

I guess it is final. Nobody on the chart left since Seo was traded.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2006 05:34 PM

So packrat and Dreamer are the winners. Congratulations!

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2006 03:53 PM

Bumped from the predictions forum to honor the winners.