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CPF Caucuses

Benjamin Grimm Jan 02 2008 08:48 AM

Okay, the Iowa caucuses are tomorrow. It's time to pony up to our preferences and our predictions. First, who, in each party, would you prefer to see win the Presidential nomination. If you have a party preference, please don't pick the opposing party candidate you think would be most vulnerable in November. Instead, pick the candidate that you think would make the best president, or at least, the one who's least unpalatable. Remember, the nominee, whoever he or she is, could end up as the next President. Then, after you list your preferences, give us your predictions, not for Iowa (though you can include that if you wish) but for who will be the two nominees. I'll start: My preferences are Biden and McCain. My predictions are Clinton and Romney. (The Republican side is the toughest to choose. There are still so many things that can happen.)

AG/DC Jan 02 2008 08:54 AM

I think you should make a polling thread, and respect the anoonymous sanctity of the booth.

metirish Jan 02 2008 08:58 AM

Who I would like. - Joe Biden ......................... - Ron Paul Who will get it. - Clinton .................... - Romney

metsmarathon Jan 02 2008 09:13 AM

i have to admit that i don't pay nearly enough attention to politics, be they national or state/local. i also have to admit that i am weary of politics and politicians, and am convinced that we've thoroughly perverted the democratic ideal by continuing to vote in corrupt politicians, either out of self-servingness or because they check the right boxes on the hot button issues. that said, on the democratic side, of which i'm too clueless, i think i like biden ,and am intrigued by obama, but i think he's more talk and message than actual substance. on the republican side, i like guiliani and mccain. if pressed, i'd perhaps go mccain. my predictions sure to go wrong are obama and huckabee.

TransMonk Jan 02 2008 09:58 AM

Who I would like: Edwards and Paul Who will win: Clinton and Romney

RealityChuck Jan 02 2008 11:05 AM

Who I'd like: Obama and None of the above. If you put a gun to my head, I'd go with McCain, but every Republican is seriously flawed, and as the campaign goes on, they go out of their way to look worse. Who'd get it: I have no real feel. Clinton, more likely, as the Democrat, but I'll give McCain a very slight edge at the moment.

Nymr83 Jan 02 2008 11:18 AM

I'm not 100% sold on any of the candidates this time around and i still haven't picked one on the Republican side. I could never vote for any of the democrats. i think we end up with Clinton against Giuliani. I realize that Giuliani's numbers are low in the early states, but he leads NY, CA, and FL and thats a friggin ton of votes. we'll see.

sharpie Jan 02 2008 12:48 PM

I dunno who I'm for in the Democratic primary. I seem to feel differently on different days. Other than Dodd, Kucinich and Gravel I can talk myself into the rest of them. If I were forced to vote in the Republican primary it would be for McCain. Who I think will win: Obama and Romney. I think the Giuliani campaign is about to collapse in a big way. He'll win New York and nothing else.

metirish Jan 03 2008 07:19 AM

I really dislike the fact that Huckabee crossed a picket line to go on Jay Leno.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2008 07:26 AM

He claimed he didn't know that Leno's writers were still on strike. He says he thought it was Leno who settled with his writers, when it was really David Letterman. Anyone who can't distinguish David Letterman from Jay Leno isn't smart enough to be president. (And I'm one of those traditionalists who thinks that presidents ought to be smart.)

smg58 Jan 03 2008 07:32 AM

preferences: Edwards and none of the above predictions: Obama and Huckabee

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2008 07:33 AM

None of the above is a bit of a cop out. Which of the Republicans (or, for Namor, the Democrats) do you find least unpalatable? If one of them is going to be President, which would be least distasteful?

metsmarathon Jan 03 2008 08:03 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: (And I'm one of those traditionalists who thinks that presidents ought to be smart.) that's just silly. we all know that presidents should be good looking, folksy, and loveable. smart? pshaw!

seawolf17 Jan 03 2008 08:29 AM

="metsmarathon"] ="Benjamin Grimm"](And I'm one of those traditionalists who thinks that presidents ought to be smart.) that's just silly. we all know that presidents should be good looking, folksy, and loveable. smart? pshaw! Grover for President!

Willets Point Jan 03 2008 09:08 AM Re: CPF Caucuses

My preferences are Kucinichand McCain. My predictions are Clinton and Thompson. However before the general election, Bush will be declared President for Life.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2008 09:16 AM Re: CPF Caucuses

Willets Point wrote: However before the general election, Bush will be declared President for Life. Right around the same time that the Yankees will be celebrating their 27th World Championship. That would make for a perfect month, wouldn't it?

Willets Point Jan 03 2008 09:51 AM

metsmarathon wrote: ="Benjamin Grimm"](And I'm one of those traditionalists who thinks that presidents ought to be smart.) that's just silly. we all know that presidents should be good looking, folksy, and loveable. smart? pshaw! And don't forget that they have to have resolve and family values.

metirish Jan 03 2008 10:04 AM

Nothing gets me pumped up as watching a candidate bagging groceries with the sleeves rolled up, just a regular guy after all.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 03 2008 10:17 AM

He's not a regular guy unless he shoots birds out of the sky.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 03 2008 10:53 AM

Inneresting how most people's preferences here don't match their predictions. I have a feeling more American's feel the same way, but keep hearing their horse is not electable anyway, so shit, why bother with them? Preferences: Obama, Paul Predictions: Clinton, Huckabee

themetfairy Jan 03 2008 11:51 AM

Preferences - Clinton, McCain Predictions - Clinton/Obama (not sure of which one will have top billing), Romney

Willets Point Jan 03 2008 02:55 PM

Caucus is also a word that is fun to say.

G-Fafif Jan 03 2008 04:21 PM

C-Span has been running "all-politics weekends," which makes me think if they were a hard-rockin', mid-market FM station, they'd be YOUR OFFICIAL HOME FOR THE IOWA RAUCOUS The oh-eighth caller when you hear "I'm Joe Biden and when I'm in Iowa, I rock the raucous with C-Span Oh Eight" would win full backstage passes to Board of Elections headquarters in Des Moines for the certification of results on Raucous Night along with an autographed picture of Chris Matthews and the whole Hardball crew. All winners would be placed into a drawing for the big prize, an all-expense paid trip to SUPER TUESDAY (echoing a few times) in the biggest, most Super Tuesday state of 'em all, C-SPAN-I-FORNIA! I also think their limited-shelf life morning zoo would be headlined by Mitt McCain (he's crazy!) and Giuliana Rodham Obama (she can't say that on the radio!) with traffic and weather from Huckety-Huck The Muckety-Muck (don't mispronounce it or we'll get fined!). C-SPAN OH EIGHT -- WHERE YOUR BALLOT BOX ROCKS!

Rockin' Doc Jan 03 2008 04:28 PM

Preference: McCain and Obama Prediction: McCain and Clinton

Mendoza Line Jan 03 2008 06:07 PM

="Nymr"]I'm not 100% sold on any of the candidates this time around and i still haven't picked one on the Republican side. I could never vote for any of the democrats Switch "Republican" and "Democrat", and you've got my view. ="Nymr"]i think we end up with Clinton against Giuliani. I realize that Giuliani's numbers are low in the early states, but he leads NY, CA, and FL and thats a friggin ton of votes. we'll see. Naah...On 9/10/01, Giuliani's popularity was at rock bottom, and the myth of "America's Mayor" has pretty much been punctured. I think he drops out on Feb. 6. ="Nymr"]Clemens takes it in the ass. Now there's something we can all agree on. I've been leaning towards Richardson based primarily on his foreign policy experience. But I'm annoyed by his [url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18818527/page/6/]lame-o attempt [/url] to explain why he honestly thought he was drafted by the A's. If I had to pick someone among the R's, it would be McCain. But, fortunately, I don't have to pick someone among the R's. Predictions - No major upsets. In Iowa, Clinton by five percentage points over Obama and Romney by ten percentage points over a bunch of people who aren't named Romney. As the nominees, Clinton and Romney.

AG/DC Jan 03 2008 08:43 PM

Huckabee and Obama. I was going to say Huckabee and Obama.

metirish Jan 03 2008 08:56 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 04 2008 06:32 AM

AG/DC wrote: Huckabee and Obama. I was going to say Huckabee and Obama. I knew you were Valadius.

metsmarathon Jan 03 2008 10:24 PM

metsmarathon wrote: my predictions sure to go wrong are obama and huckabee. um, yeah, i was just playing coy, there.

Nymr83 Jan 03 2008 10:41 PM

how about that? THIRD for hillary!

Willets Point Jan 03 2008 11:58 PM

Recall that this thread is not for predicting Iowa but for the eventual candidates for each party. So ye need not start the Monday morning quarterbacking yet.

Nymr83 Jan 03 2008 11:59 PM

So i've given this some careful thought and I've decided that I'm going with John McCain. He might not be as fiscally conservative as i want, but i think he's reliable on national security and, importantly, electable. edit- willets posts as i'm writing, i thought only i was awake at this hour.

Willets Point Jan 04 2008 12:02 AM

Nymr83 wrote: how about that? THIRD for hillary! Awesome. I hope this is a trend in the other primaries because a) I don't like Clinton's policies/personalities and thus don't think she'll make a good President and b) if nominated she will be crushed by the Republicans even if the put up their wackiest neoconservative evangelical wingnut. Of course since the Democratic party is made up of dumb, spineless, appeasing kiss-up's they are pretty much destined to give Clinton the nod.

Valadius Jan 06 2008 01:21 AM

I could not have been happier when I found out that Obama won the caucuses! It was hard following everything from Costa Rica, though.

martin Jan 06 2008 03:43 PM

preference: paul, obama reality: giuliani, obama