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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 09 2008 10:31 AM

His supporters seem to be passionate about him but he'd swing a bigger bat with me were he not a) made out of wood b) a veep loser in his home state vs. the worst president of all time b) is one case where "electability" seems to be an issue with me. What's the deal with this guy?

metirish Jan 09 2008 10:36 AM

I just can't warm to him at all, even last night in his concession speech he was full of smiles that look so false to me, to me he just screams politician and the nod and a wink type that I hate. I do think it's admirable that he talks about social issues in regards to the less fortunate among us but I like nothing else about him.

AG/DC Jan 09 2008 10:46 AM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2008 10:58 AM

That's what folks seem to respond to. He strikes them as e a cynical calculator behind an awe-suicks smile. He sure seemed to me to be using his wife's cancer for all it was wroth. He seems be working from Bill Clnton's model --- Humble roots but high achiever, wife as full partner, looking deeply into your eyes to connect with you, making emotional appeals to economic justice, fully invested in his hair --- but Bill Clinton could stab you in the back when he was kisisng you, and you would thank him for it. Folks like that are rare --- enough charm to make your heart leap even as your head tells it not to. Obama may have some of that, but Edwards sure doesn't. I may have mentioned that he spent some time working at the kitchen that prepares the food for my dinner program a few months back. The summary was --- he did the the work, rather than just staying for a photo op, but he was vehement about not being photographed with the hair net on.

soupcan Jan 09 2008 10:48 AM

AG/DC wrote: he was vehement about nto being photographed with the hair net on. Can't blame the guy for that - I wouldn't want a picture of me with a hairnet on floating around either.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 09 2008 10:55 AM

He probably was afraid it would be his Michael Dukakis in the army tank moment.

AG/DC Jan 09 2008 10:57 AM

He probably was. My thinking is that an appealing candidate, to me, worrries more about getting the right message than controlling the wrong one. Bring your own hat. A handsome chef's touque, perhaps. He's feeding the hungry, for Pete's sake. The haters can fuck 'emselves.

metirish Jan 09 2008 11:32 AM

I find it funny when he talks about being a Washington outsider and that what that place needs is a guy like him.

sharpie Jan 09 2008 11:50 AM

I watched his speech after Iowa, the debates last Saturday and his speech after New Hampshire. He brought up that Natalie girl who needed a liver transplant but her big bad insurance company wouldn't pony up til too late all three times. Plus the mill stuff. I like a lot of what he says but he's turning me off with the repetition. Plus, the fact that he was a horrendous Veep candidate.

Farmer Ted Jan 09 2008 11:53 AM

Before the camapign is over, he'll reference every person that has died in America in the past 10 years and blame it on health care. Blah message, cheezy smile, limp handshake. Not my guy. To know anything about Edwards, ask the folks in NC, or his home county, or hometown that he failed to carry in the '04 election. His own peeps don't like him or his message.

Nymr83 Jan 09 2008 11:57 AM

]b) a veep loser in his home state vs. the worst president of all time he lost to Jimmy Carter?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 09 2008 11:59 AM

I'm not going to tell you that Jimmy Carter wasn't a bad president, but the only presidents that were worse than Bush were the ones on 24.

Willets Point Jan 09 2008 12:32 PM

soupcan wrote: ="AG/DC"]he was vehement about nto being photographed with the hair net on. Can't blame the guy for that - I wouldn't want a picture of me with a hairnet on floating around either. Not to mention mussing up a $400 haircut.

OlerudOwned Jan 09 2008 06:22 PM

="soupcan"] ="AG/DC"]he was vehement about nto being photographed with the hair net on. Can't blame the guy for that - I wouldn't want a picture of me with a hairnet on floating around either. Better than what happened to Tom Vilsack.

Gwreck Jan 09 2008 06:29 PM

Nymr83 wrote: ]b) a veep loser in his home state vs. the worst president of all time he lost to Jimmy Carter? You can't be serious. Carter wasn't even the worst president of the '70s. :)

RealityChuck Jan 10 2008 12:36 PM

AG/DC wrote: That's what folks seem to respond to. He strikes them as e a cynical calculator behind an awe-shicks smile. Not necessary cynical -- I think he's serious about as much of what he says as any politician is -- but definitely a calculator. I saw him speak a couple of years ago. What impressed me was how he seemed to have the entire thing timed out. The speech ended precisely 45 minutes after it began. There were 15 minutes for questions. At the end of the hour, he left, and I got the impression that if someone were in the middle of a question when the one hour mark were reached, he would have left while the person was asking it.

Frayed Knot Jan 30 2008 08:06 AM

Edwards sked to drop out today. He's been campaigning that there are "two Americas" ... and apparently neither one likes him.

AG/DC Jan 30 2008 08:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 30 2008 08:27 AM

Originally, this was speculated after he re-scheduled two campagin events to make a speech about poverty. ="the AP"]In a news release, the Edwards campaign called poverty "the great moral issue of our time." Well, I don't know about the great moral issue. And the persistence of poverty has certainly followed us through all recorded time. But I can still get behind this sort of mission-driven campaign. ="the AP"]In recent days, it said, "national discussion of important issues like ending poverty has given way to sniping and personal attacks between the two front-runner candidates." True. Although also nothing new. ="the AP"]"Ending poverty and fighting for the middle class is the cause of John Edwards' life — and he will urge the nation to refocus on this important issue." Here's where he loses me.

Willets Point Jan 30 2008 08:26 AM

That's the other reason I'm annoyed that Edwards dropped out. How does he expect to move forward an important initiative like alleviating poverty while watching from the sidelines?

sharpie Jan 30 2008 08:30 AM

He could give away all of his money.

AG/DC Aug 12 2008 11:02 AM

How did this dork get three steps out of his door with this fake cowboy charm? http://www.newsweek.com/id/151783/page/1

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2008 11:33 AM

ONe of Hillary's henchmen was out on the prowl last night yapping about how if the Edwards revelations had come out sooner then she'd be the nominee today. Suddenly it sucks when the media isn't digging up dirt and running with it.

AG/DC Aug 12 2008 11:36 AM

It's a vast conspiracy located moderately left of center.

Nymr83 Aug 12 2008 01:06 PM

LOL

AG/DC Aug 13 2008 07:17 AM

So, I've only read about this and not heard any news reports. I know Rielle Hunter is a made-up name by somebody re-inventing herself. Is that pronounced "Riley" or "Reilly"?

themetfairy Aug 13 2008 07:44 AM

Jon Stewart parsed Edwards' interview from the other night -