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Rudy Giuliani.
| metirish Jan 10 2008 07:57 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 10 2008 08:14 AM |
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That was what a poster said here about Rudy, sums him up perfectly for me. There is nothing I like about the man. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=95972433
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 10 2008 08:01 AM |
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Are people dumb enough to nominate him? He's aiming for Florida.
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| sharpie Jan 10 2008 08:56 AM |
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At this point I would prefer any of the major candidates of either party to him.
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| AG/DC Jan 29 2008 08:44 AM |
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I also heard a Rudy rally yesterday, and it sounded sad. "We not only have the sheriff from Puma County here, but the sheriff from Ocala County*!" It was one of those tarmac affairs. And, in fairness, the governor of Texas came to endorse him also, clearly (to my thinking) because the campaign had a good chance of being dead before it ever reaches Texas. Rudy was promising some serious pie in the sky. "I'm the candidate with a history of working miracles. I'm the candidate with the history of doing the impossible." I usually think he's as smart as anybody else in the race, but I don't know why he thinks people are going to buy that sort of crap. I don't know if his pullout of his Senate campaign against Hilary Clinton was really about his cancer treatment or it was a calculated move along the lines of "If I'm going to take on an opponent this formidable, I'm going to do it for the big pot." But if it was, it's looking like a bad calculation now. He'd be looking a lot better now as someone who ran and lost a close race to Clinton. If he had lost to her, he'd probably have beaten her the second time around like he did to David Dinkins, and would be running --- like Barack Obama --- as a US Senator with two years experience, but a lot more of a track record before that. _______________ * I made those names up, but they sound like Florida counties.
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| metirish Jan 29 2008 08:49 AM |
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If he pulls out after today I think his run will be largely forgotten and his after dinner gig will still be a money maker, especially abroad where he is still a big shot.
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| sharpie Jan 29 2008 09:01 AM |
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Mayors of New York never seem to be able to attain other elective offices. Lindsey, Koch and others have tried. Total dead-end job, especially now that there are term limits.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jan 29 2008 09:06 AM |
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Have any other big city mayors gone on to become governors or senators? I know Jerry Springer went on to bigger, although not better, things.
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| DocTee Jan 29 2008 09:09 AM |
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Jerry Brown went backwards--from Governor of California and Democratic presidential hopeful to mayor of Oakland.
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| sharpie Jan 29 2008 09:28 AM |
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Isn't your governor the former mayor of Philadelphia, Ben?
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| Valadius Jan 29 2008 09:43 AM |
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Indeed, Rendell fits the mold. So does Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who was mayor of San Francisco, and Sen. Norm Coleman, who was mayor of St. Paul, MN.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jan 29 2008 09:46 AM |
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Shame on me for missing such an obvious example! And Chris Matthews was pushing Rendell as a VP candidate. (I don't expect that to happen, but it's possible.)
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| DocTee Jan 29 2008 09:48 AM |
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Good call on Feinstein.
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| sharpie Jan 29 2008 10:02 AM |
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No. Robert F. Wagner Sr. was a Senator but not mayor. Robert F. Wagner Jr. was mayor but not a Senator. I think you have to go way way back to find a NYC mayor who won an elective post after being mayor (might be DeWitt Clinton).
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| Valadius Jan 29 2008 10:21 AM |
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Other governors who are former big-city mayors: Martin O'Malley of Maryland, former mayor of Baltimore, and Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, former mayor of Nashville.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jan 29 2008 10:26 AM |
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Mayor Tommy Carcetti of Baltimore is also looking at running for governor.
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| DocTee Jan 29 2008 10:27 AM |
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Well I'll be damned. I stand corrected and thank Sharpie for the correction.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jan 29 2008 10:29 AM |
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I wouldn't think you'd go to hell for getting your Robert Wagners mixed up. (There's a Natalie Wood joke to be made here, but I can't put it together.)
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| RealityChuck Jan 29 2008 11:04 AM |
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Senator and former congressman Bernie Sanders was mayor of Vermont's biggest city, Burlington.
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| Farmer Ted Jan 29 2008 01:31 PM |
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After today, we may need to move this thread over to the Bring Out Your Dead thread.
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| Willets Point Jan 29 2008 02:15 PM |
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In the past, some New York mayors had control over all the reps, senators and governors, so what was the point of moving up.
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