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I Don't Like It
Benjamin Grimm Jan 22 2008 08:41 AM |
I don't like it either.
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metsmarathon Jan 22 2008 08:45 AM |
i don't think there's a good case to be made that their accomplishments are equivalent.
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metirish Jan 22 2008 09:04 AM |
I don't think it's ever a good idea when you have to force the issue like this.
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Willets Point Jan 22 2008 09:07 AM |
Jesus, I read that as Clemen's #21 would be retired from play!
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metsguyinmichigan Jan 22 2008 09:27 AM |
I don't like it when MFYs wear No. 41. They're just not worthy.
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G-Fafif Jan 22 2008 09:35 AM |
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This does not deserve to go unremarked upon. LOL!
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Valadius Jan 22 2008 09:38 AM |
One league-wide retirement is enough.
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Rockin' Doc Jan 22 2008 06:56 PM |
Clemente's number has been appropriately retired in Pittsburgh by the Pirates organization and that is enough in my view.
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Nymr83 Jan 22 2008 07:55 PM |
just say NO bud. be strong.
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RealityChuck Jan 22 2008 08:51 PM |
Much as I admire Clemente, this makes little sense. He didn't have the impact of Robinson and there were plenty of Puerto Rican ballplayers before Roberto.
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DocTee Jan 22 2008 08:57 PM |
I think he has already been honored appropriately. MLB's highest off-field accolade is named in his honor, a fitting tribute for a man who, as Chuck notes, died trying to help others.
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AG/DC Jan 22 2008 09:11 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2008 07:53 AM |
My problem isn't so much the proposal, which none of us support. It's that it puts Selig --- who has gone out of his way to express profound admiration for Clemente every chance he gets --- in a position of acting like a scrooge on behalf of baseball.
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Nymr83 Jan 22 2008 09:18 PM |
their own dime? you mean our dime. i'd prefer they went back to their other jobs where they'd do less harm (did you know NYC council members get paid $112,500 a year + additional money for serving on comitees) i also heard that they only work part-time and still get to earn income from other business. bums.
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AG/DC Jan 22 2008 10:16 PM |
I think you know what I mean.
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soupcan Jan 23 2008 07:26 AM |
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It truly is amazing isn't it?
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Nymr83 Jan 23 2008 10:27 AM |
not as amazing as the salaries they get for a part-time job
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AG/DC Jan 23 2008 10:43 AM |
I'll disagree.
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Nymr83 Jan 23 2008 11:22 AM |
wasting their time telling selig to honor clemente doesnt waste public money, unless you want to count keeing the lights on
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AG/DC Jan 23 2008 11:34 AM |
Not for the first time in this thread, you're deliberately missing my point.
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Nymr83 Jan 23 2008 11:42 AM |
soupcan said its amazing how they waste their time, i replied that its not as amazing as their insane salaries, to which you reply that the public money they waste is alot more than that, but we weren't comparing the two, we were comparing their salaries to the time wasted not to public money wasted. so either your reply was meant to mean two different things (one that you disagree with me that the money is worse than the time and second that [having nothing to do with the first point] the public money is worse than the salaries, or two, and this is how i read it and why i responded as i did, you equated my comment as comparing to public moneys which is not what i was doing.)
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AG/DC Jan 23 2008 12:00 PM |
Enjoy law school.
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Nymr83 Jan 23 2008 12:07 PM |
alternatively you could say that time they spend on crap like this is time they can't spend thinking of new ways to waste our money or ban transfats and ipods
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AG/DC Jan 23 2008 12:11 PM |
I could. I won't. Again, I shouln't have to explain this, but they're not elected to not fail. Funds need to get allocated. The city doesn't improve by them not doing their jobs.
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Nymr83 Jan 23 2008 12:16 PM |
i would suggest that funds have already been allocated to the NYPD, the sanitation department, filling potholes, etc. the reason they are part time is that allocatig funds for a city, unlike being Congress or even a state legislature is that you simply aren't needed every day and the more time they spend "in session" beyond getting the basics done is more time they spend wasting our money on fluff.
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HahnSolo Jan 23 2008 01:42 PM |
The NY Post Chimes in:
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2008 02:06 PM |
This is really nothing to get worked up about. I don't imagine much "time" was wasted by these people on this foolish idea. It's not like a dozen people toiled over this for weeks on end. It's more like one of those resolutions that legislative bodies often pass, like declaring "Bathroom Tissue Week" or something like that.
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