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Frayed Knot
Mar 01 2008 08:54 AM

... getting an MRI on his hip, apparently a flare up of the same thing that bothered him for a stretch last season -- as per NYDN's Adam Rubin on the radio.
The usual statements about how 'it's just precautionary' are, of course, stamped all over the plane ticket.

Also: El Duque will be ready to take the mound ... umm, whenever.

metirish
Mar 01 2008 10:59 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Mar 01 2008 11:08 AM

Not to sound alarmist here, but of course I am, this seems bad to me. Spring Training has just started and he's getting an MRI....

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 01 2008 11:04 AM

bad

seawolf17
Mar 01 2008 11:20 AM

I always wonder about this during spring training. Are there no doctors in Florida that can help? In a state that 90% retirees, there isn't a single reputable MRI machine? Yet you see guys fly back to New York for these things from time to time. If the guy's got a bum hip, why stick him on a plane for three hours? Wouldn't it make more sense to just do it locally?

OlerudOwned
Mar 01 2008 02:05 PM

Mich(a)els Abreu and Carp: It's your time to shine.

SteveJRogers
Mar 01 2008 02:39 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
I always wonder about this during spring training. Are there no doctors in Florida that can help? In a state that 90% retirees, there isn't a single reputable MRI machine? Yet you see guys fly back to New York for these things from time to time. If the guy's got a bum hip, why stick him on a plane for three hours? Wouldn't it make more sense to just do it locally?


My only guess would be is that it is some sort of thing set up where only the Mets official doctors can do stuff like that.

themetfairy
Mar 01 2008 02:50 PM

Even so, with today's technology you could have the procedure done in Florida and have the team doctor view the pix digitally in New York. There's no reason to stick the guy on an airplane unless it seems that he will likely require surgery.

Nymr83
Mar 01 2008 03:40 PM

ughh don't use the S word.

I'm pretty worried that if Delgado is seriously hurt the Mets don't have many options.. Jose Valentin, Mike Carp and Michel Abreu don't fill be with confidence at 1st base.

I'll give Abreu credit, he was very good at Binghamton last year, but a 27 year old hitting the 21 year olds isn't impressive enough to make me at all confident in him at the major league level.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 01 2008 05:16 PM

Piazza?

Nymr83
Mar 01 2008 05:53 PM

lets do it. part-time first baseman, top-quality pinch hitter

Triple Dee
Mar 01 2008 08:39 PM
Re: Delgado back in NYC

="Frayed Knot"]... getting an MRI on his hip, apparently a flare up of the same thing that bothered him for a stretch last season -- as per NYDN's Adam Rubin on the radio.
The usual statements about how 'it's just precautionary' are, of course, stamped all over the plane ticket.

Delgado is no longer in the "best shape of his life."

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2008 08:37 AM

The MRI showed no damage aside from a slight "impingement", something that won't require any surgery just something he'll have to deal with. You wonder this thing (it flared up last Sept) was/will be the cause of some of his power outage seeing as how hip-turn is such a part of the power swing.



Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Piazza?


Or we could look for someone who could ... oh I dunno, play 1st base maybe?

Y'know who we could really use - and this was true both before Delgado's latest owwie and since - is old friend X Nady. 1B / Church platoon / Moises insurance / RH-PH, etc.
Not sure what it would take to get him seeing as how he's a starting player in Pitt. Oddly enough bullpen is most what we have to deal right now, but I wouldn't offer Heilman, Smith probably wouldn't get it done, and there's no reason to think they'd take Schoeneweis.

MFS62
Mar 02 2008 08:43 AM

Calling Mr. Abreau to the lobby phone.
This is your chance to show what a great hitter you were while playing first base for the Cuban National Team.

PS- Wolf, I read a few years ago that while Florida had many retirees and therefore the need for Doctors, many of the ones who practice in that State aren't highly regarded.

Later

Triple Dee
Mar 02 2008 10:08 AM

Frayed Knot wrote:
The MRI showed no damage aside from a slight "impingement", something that won't require any surgery just something he'll have to deal with. You wonder this thing (it flared up last Sept) was/will be the cause of some of his power outage seeing as how hip-turn is such a part of the power swing.



="Benjamin Grimm"]Piazza?


Or we could look for someone who could ... oh I dunno, play 1st base maybe?

Y'know who we could really use - and this was true both before Delgado's latest owwie and since - is old friend X Nady. 1B / Church platoon / Moises insurance / RH-PH, etc.
Not sure what it would take to get him seeing as how he's a starting player in Pitt. Oddly enough bullpen is most what we have to deal right now, but I wouldn't offer Heilman, Smith probably wouldn't get it done, and there's no reason to think they'd take Schoeneweis.


They could take Pagan or Endy or the optionless Goat. Throw in Smith and a low pitching prospect.

TheOldMole
Mar 02 2008 10:21 AM

]I'll give Abreu credit, he was very good at Binghamton last year, but a 27 year old hitting the 21 year olds isn't impressive enough to make me at all confident in him at the major league level.


Especially since it's a little foggy how old he is.

Nymr83
Mar 02 2008 10:40 AM

yeah i was going by baseball-reference, i wasnt aware there was an age controversy with him.

Rockin' Doc
Mar 02 2008 10:41 AM

62 - "PS- Wolf, I read a few years ago that while Florida had many retirees and therefore the need for Doctors, many of the ones who practice in that State aren't highly regarded."

I feel quite confident that there are numerous highly respected and competent orthopedics surgeons, rheumatologists, and sports medicine specialists available in the state of Florida.

bmfc1
Mar 02 2008 10:59 AM

Speaking of Delgado, here is what is on the front of today's Best Buy circular (in the Washington area):

Nymr83
Mar 02 2008 11:27 AM

as if i'd buy a game with a Philly on the cover.

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2008 01:09 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote:
62 - "PS- Wolf, I read a few years ago that while Florida had many retirees and therefore the need for Doctors, many of the ones who practice in that State aren't highly regarded."

I feel quite confident that there are numerous highly respected and competent orthopedics surgeons, rheumatologists, and sports medicine specialists available in the state of Florida.


Especially for hip injuries; y'know, breaks from falls, titanium replacements.

Gwreck
Mar 02 2008 02:31 PM

Buster Olney wrote:
The Mets are saying that Carlos Delgado's injury is not a big deal. The test he flew back to New York for was just a precautionary move. But let's keep it real: If you are 35-years-old, possess a body that would not be predisposed to a long shelf life, you are coming off a year in which you struggled so badly that you were often a drag on the team's offense and you really labored to get comfortable at the plate, any injury that requires you to get on a plane has the potential to be serious -- especially when it occurs before you even start playing games on a daily basis.

And keep in mind that the Mets don't really have a Plan B at first base on their roster. When Delgado was out of the lineup Saturday, utility man Marlon Anderson started in his place -- and collided with Ryan Church, with both players getting injured.

So while GM Omar Minaya may speak confidently about Delgado's injury, this will be a warning siren for the Mets, at the very least. They need to add someone who could play first base on a regular basis, if necessary, and there are no shortage of interesting candidates.

1. Nick Johnson, Nationals: He's coming back from a broken leg, and Washington has a surplus of first basemen. So, in theory, if Johnson is healthy, then he might give you someone capable of compiling a .400 on-base percentage. But odds are that the Nationals will drive a hard bargain on Johnson or Dmitri Young, and the Mets don't have the kind of roster depth available to deal prospects, in the aftermath of the deal for Johan Santana.

2. Scott Hatteberg, Reds: Manager Dusty Baker has been saying that his young players, like first baseman Joey Votto, need to play, so Hatteberg could be expendable. He is not anything close to the kind of thumper that the Mets need -- collecting 30 of his 47 RBIs in a Cincinnati park that is very friendly to hitters -- but he had a .394 on-base average last season. If Delgado can play, Hatteberg would be a perfect late-inning double-switch, pinch-hitter type of guy. But Reds GM Wayne Krivsky, who is under pressure to win this year, is not going to simply give him away; you wonder if he would be too valuable of an asset for the Mets to pay for.

3. Richie Sexson, Mariners: Seattle offered him all over the place and would probably love to give him away, while paying most of his salary, after he hit .205 last year. But scouts have real questions about whether the 33-year-old Sexson will hit consistently in the big leagues again, considering his history of shoulder problems. And last year, he had 100 strikeouts in 434 at-bats; when placed in the middle of the Mets' lineup, he would represent a human invitation to pitch around the 3-4-5 hitters, rather than a deterrent.

4. Tony Clark, Padres: He signed a very cheap deal of less than $1 million to be a spare part for his hometown team, which already has an everyday first baseman. But he might love the opportunity to go someplace else and have the chance to hit 300-400 times. He's been with the Mets and Yankees before, knows the New York drill, is a decent first baseman, and while he strikes out a lot, like Sexson, he hit for big-time power last year, with 17 homers in 221 at-bats. Minaya and San Diego GM Kevin Towers have made trades in the past, so they could talk again.

5. Kevin Millar, Orioles: Millar might be, in the big picture, the best possible fit. If necessary, he could play every day: He was in the lineup for 140 games last year, accumulating a .354 on-base percentage and 17 homers. The Orioles might actually welcome a deal, in the midst of a rebuilding mode, and would not drive a hard bargain the way that Washington might. If Delgado is OK to play but needs more rest, Millar could be a platoon player. He hit eight of his 17 homers in 140 at-bats against left-handers. And there is another reason why Millar might be perfect for the Mets -- when he's playing, he is renowned as one of the great clubhouse guys in baseball, someone who can draw together disparate factions of any team. He is known as someone who can help a team prepare to play on a daily basis, because of his high energy. While Delgado and Carlos Beltran are two guys who aren't really drawn to the role of dealing with the media, Millar thrives in that role, which would be great help to David Wright.

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2008 07:33 PM

I hadn't thought of Millar until Gammons mentioned earlier that he could be had "for a song".

Yeah he turns 37 late in the season and is a butcher of a fielder, but hits RH and has played corner OF positions on occasion. It's worth finding out what song it would take.



P.S. I still like the idea of Justin Huber if available (mentioned in the parellel 1B thread). He doesn't carry the "veteren tested" label but fits all the other traits plus would act as the elusive "emergency" 3rd catcher which frees up Castro for PH duty a bit more often.