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OlerudOwned
Mar 01 2008 03:52 PM

With Delgado's climbing age and increasing proneness to nagging injuries, I've figured that now's as good a time as ever to look at what exactly this organization has at first base, in case he misses substantial amounts of time/sucks nards.

Michel Abreu


Cuban defector signed by the Mets in winter of 2006 after having a contract with the Red Sox voided a few months earlier because of residency issues and the fact that he was discovered to be 4 years older than previously though. At this point, it's not looking good for him. He's 33 years old, has no pro experience above Double-A, and missed all of last season with visa issues. That'd being said, there's always the allure of his ability. That one year in AA was fantasic. He put up a .403 OBP and .529 SLG with 17 HR and 26 2B in just under 400 ABs. And while it's foolish to judge off the last thing you saw, especially when it came in a spring training game against a college team, he did have that game tying homer earlier in the week. Minaya's already said that Abreu's pegged to play 1st base in New Orleans this season, but he's still an intriguing guy to have around. If the Mets are looking for a long term solution this year, however, I'd really hate to see him taking opportunities away from...

Mike Carp


Won't turn 22 until the end of June, and saw his stock rise rapidly after an outstanding 2006 campaign in St. Lucie. Mets drafted him in the 9th round of the '04 draft, and he started drawing attention to himself as a 20-year-old with a .286/.378/.447, 17 HR, 26 2B in 490 AB campaign for YOUR 2006 FSL champion St. Lucie Mets. He got some slack for a high K rate (329 in 1357 career ABs), but as long as that nifty .094 isolated OBP is maintained I certainly won't mind.
2007 was a rougher season for Carp. He came into AA-Binghamton with high expectations but seemed to suffer, with his basic line dipping to .251/.337/.387. I'm not that worried though, as he suffered a broken finger and wound up missing all of May, most of June, and having a miserable July. On the whole for '07, there was hardly any change in his career line drive %, his walk % increased, while his BABIP and isolated power swooned. The power outage I'd chalk up to his finger injury, meaning there's really nothing in here that would suggest he's forgotten how to hit. The only real red flag, albeit a major one, is that he is pretty abysmal against left-handed pitching. During his career year in '06, there was a .235 OPS disparity in his performance against RHPs and LHPs. Last season it was an eye popping .412.
Carp's going to get another crack at Double-A this year, so hopefully he can stay healthy, make strides, and maybe get a chance at the big show during the second half of the year.

Nick Evans


The farthest off of the three, but probably the one with the highest upside, Evans would seem scheduled to start this season in Double-A as well, which may lead to a bit of a competition. He was drafted the same year as Carp, 4 rounds earlier, and is about half a year older. His 2007 at St. Lucie was comparable to Carp's 2006, as he went .286/.374/.476 with 15 HR and 25 2Bs, but in over 100 fewer at-bats. He's a righthanded batter and hasn't shown any real problems handling pitchers from either side of the rubber. He's got a higher walk rate, less strikeouts, and better power than Carp, and for what it's worth, he's rated #10 among Mets' prospects by John Sickles, 6 spots ahead of Carp. Shortly, he's got the best chance of any Mets 1B to become an everyday player, but won't do diddly-squat for us in 2008.

KC
Mar 01 2008 06:06 PM

Nicely done summary.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 01 2008 06:35 PM

We really shoulda made a play for Texiera last summer.

OlerudOwned
Mar 01 2008 06:52 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
We really shoulda made a play for Texiera last summer.

Would've been a real pain in the ass with Delgado still on the books.

My dream scenario is that we buy Carlos out at $4 million for next season and sign Adam Dunn, but I don't know how willing (or able) he is to play first base.

smg58
Mar 01 2008 09:19 PM

Unless we got some decent prospects for Delgado after acquiring Teixeira, we would not have Santana. Now we have a decent chance of having both next year.

Triple Dee
Mar 02 2008 02:54 AM

smg58 wrote:
Unless we got some decent prospects for Delgado after acquiring Teixeira, we would not have Santana. Now we have a decent chance of having both next year.


Yeah, the Braves really paid through the teeth to get Tex -- 3 starting pitchers, a shortstop, a catcher/1st baseman, and a reliever. I don't think the Mets could have matched that.

smg58
Mar 02 2008 10:02 AM

So I'd offer Joe Smith to the Royals for Justin Huber, and then Gotay to the Orioles for Chad Bradford. Huber would give our bench a legit righty bat, somebdy who's actually played first base, and a possble rightfield option against left-handed pitching.

Triple Dee
Mar 02 2008 10:17 AM

smg58 wrote:
So I'd offer Joe Smith to the Royals for Justin Huber, and then Gotay to the Orioles for Chad Bradford. Huber would give our bench a legit righty bat, somebdy who's actually played first base, and a possble rightfield option against left-handed pitching.


How does one equate a career SLG of .245 with a "legit righty bat"?

If you want a legit first baseman, Nick Johnson played the other day. However, the Gnats want starting pitching.

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2008 01:26 PM

To be fair, Huber's ML stats (and that .245 SLG) consist of less than 100 ABs, most of them coming in 2005. He has hit at every level in the minors and his SLG at AAA is over .500 in 400+ ABs.

Huber had occured to me also as maybe a cheaper alternative to Nady. He hit RH, is out of options and has played both 1B and both corner OF spots.
I don't know why the Royals would be anxious to let him go - but many people don't understand why a team with nothing to lose has been so reluctant to give him time over the last few years.

OlerudOwned
Mar 02 2008 02:05 PM

Nady's on a one year contract (arbitration eligible again, I believe), is the 6th highest paid Pirate ($3.5 m), and his agent is Scott Boras.

If 1st base/corner OF becomes a concern over the first half of the season, I could see him coming back.

Nymr83
Mar 02 2008 02:07 PM

Would the Pirates bereluctant to deal him back to the Mets, obviously for far less than what they got him for, and thus admit the trade to acquire him was a bad one for them?

OlerudOwned
Mar 02 2008 02:12 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
Would the Pirates bereluctant to deal him back to the Mets, obviously for far less than what they got him for, and thus admit the trade to acquire him was a bad one for them?

I wouldn't necessarily call it a bad trade for the Pirates. Perez had no chance to recover on that team, they messed him up way too much. Nady's been a productive player for them.

Besides, I think there's a new management group in since that deal was made. I can see them selling him off for intriguing prospects and calling it a day. After all, it's the Pirates. They're perpetually rebuilding.

Nymr83
Mar 02 2008 02:19 PM

Is there a new management group? wasn't aware of that, it looks alot like the last one.

AG/DC
Mar 02 2008 02:22 PM

Still-available first-basey free agents:

  • Eurebiel Durazo: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/D/Erubiel-Durazo.shtml

  • Julio Franco: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/F/Julio-Franco.shtml

  • Final-year-at-Shea Hillenbrand: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Shea-Hillenbrand.shtml

  • Ryan Klesko: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/K/Ryan-Klesko.shtml
Catchers who have played there include: Piazza and Jason Phillips.

Outfielders who have played there include: Victor Diaz (not really, but, in a pinch, why not?), Shawn Green, and Bronson Kiheimahanaomauiakeo Sardinha (well, he's played third, and that name belongs in the UMDB).

Thirdbasemen who have played there include: Tony Batista, Jeff Cirillo, Andy Gonzalez (I know, who? right?), and Scott Spezio.

Nymr83
Mar 02 2008 02:25 PM

Is Durazo still injured? I know he missed a large chunk of last season but he had been a pretty good hitter up until last year.

OlerudOwned
Mar 02 2008 02:42 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 02 2008 02:44 PM

A guy whose career I've had a fascination with, and once called a "Holy Grail" by Billy Beane, Erubiel Durazo is a free-agent. I can't find as much as a camp invite for him this spring, which seems absurd for a 34 year old lefty 1st baseman who has an .868 career OPS. He hasn't been in the majors since 2005, when he was hurt and sucked, but bounced around between three Triple-A teams in 2006 and raked in short stints for each one. 2007 started in Mexico where all he did was OPS 1.028 in 158 ABs, get a contract to play for the Yankees AAA team, and hit .263/.377/.411 in 95 at-bats there.

It just seems incomprehensible to me that Hideo Nomo and Alberto Castillo can get invited by teams as a non-roster invitee while a guy with a track record of getting on base and launching bombs gets ignored. I've heard stuff about him not being a great team guy, but come on.

OlerudOwned
Mar 02 2008 02:43 PM

Look at that, I spend 20 minutes researching Erubiel Durazo and complaining that he gets ignored, and I miss two posts about him.