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Alan Parker filmography (Split from The Commitments)
Vic Sage Mar 12 2008 02:26 PM |
Alan Parker: selected filmography
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AG/DC Mar 12 2008 02:32 PM |
I don't like much Pink Floyd but I like The Wall enough to like them better because of it.
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Vic Sage Mar 12 2008 03:50 PM |
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wow. you got me. I was off by 85 years or 50+ miles. Sorry. But last i checked, those in the UK and those in the Republic of Ireland were still of the same race, despite their history of trying to kill each other. So, im not sure how my error in referencing a city in southern Ireland with regard to Parker's "UK roots" is deserving of your disdainful and cavalier "speaking of racism". Or were you just being a clever lad? As for MISSISSIPPI BURNING, it was about alot of things... about 20 minutes too long, for one But a major story element was how the federal government responded to racism in the south, in the wake of the murder of young civil rights workers Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner in 1964. So perhaps a "study of racism" isn't the best short-hand description, but it is certainly applicable. But i suppose i could have instead described it as the fictionalized account by a foreigner who overstates the heroism of the feds during this era, while reducing the black community to nameless victims suffering with dignity, waiting for the white liberals from up north to save them. But no matter the description, its overheated hokum.
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AG/DC Mar 12 2008 08:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 13 2008 08:30 AM |
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I thought it was about the contrast betwwen the two FBI men. Defoe is such a man of his time, such a Kennedy-era true believer that he fucks up the investigation over and over because he's so much of a bulldozer self-righteousness that he gets the whole investigation stonewalled. It's like moral jui-jitsu. He punches with a passion that throws him so off-balance that he gets nothing accomplished no matter how broadly he expands the investigation.
I certainly didn't mean to accuse you of racism. Only that the conflict of that distinction gets cast in racial terms. See the quote you pull from the Commitments script.
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Vic Sage Mar 13 2008 08:05 AM |
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But i don't think it was just story backdrop to Parker, because he so often examines social themes in his movies, as i tried to describe above. If all he wanted was to tell a compelling police procedural, you don't need to re-write history to do it. That he DID use the historical events around this racially-charged pivotal moment of the civil rights era suggests it was central to his point, not just a context or backdrop. The fact that you perceive it basically as a cop movie is, to me, just an example of how he failed to make his point, not that he wasn't trying to make one.
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RealityChuck Mar 17 2008 09:47 AM |
Parker (like Ridley Scott) is wildly inconsistent. His best stuff is excellent, and I like the way he takes chances, but when he is bad, he is very very bad.
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Vic Sage Mar 17 2008 03:36 PM |
What... no love for MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, BIRDY or THE WALL?
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sharpie Mar 18 2008 06:58 AM |
Liked: Midnight Express, Shoot the Moon, The Commitments
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soupcan Mar 18 2008 07:56 AM |
Alan Parker films I've seen -
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2008 08:21 AM |
Both Angel Heart and Mississippi Burning seemed very powerful at first veiwing but sort of faded on further reflection. "Mississippi" especially I find manipulative. I agree with the comment above, it's a weird cop movie ("Yeah, well, we're doing it MY WAY now...").
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soupcan Mar 18 2008 08:41 AM |
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I will now educate you. I went to The Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School for Music and Art. At the time it was housed on the campus of City College in a building on 137th street and Convent Avenue in Manhattan. This high school was for students who either sang, played musical instruments, sculpted, painted and/or drew. I happened to have a bit of talent as an illustrater but that was a looong time ago. The High School for The Performing Arts was located somewhere in or around Times Square. P.A., as it was referred to (as opposed to 'M&A' for my school), was for musicians and other performers - singers, dancers, actors. Sometime around 1990 or so I think, both schools merged into The Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School for Music, Art and The Performing Arts. The school has since been housed in a building behind Lincoln Center adjacent to Martin Luther King, Jr. High School. When I was a student at M&A there was no dancing. I can regale you with stories of running to the subway at 2:57 pm so us priveledged white kids from 'downtown' could get the hell out of Dodge before all the other public schools in Harlem let out and we became the favored prey of the local kids.
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