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Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring.
metirish Mar 10 2008 12:58 PM |
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Bad Boy Eliot.
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seawolf17 Mar 10 2008 01:01 PM |
Ooooops.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:05 PM |
"Involved"?
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metirish Mar 10 2008 01:08 PM |
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 01:08 PM |
Perhaps as a lawyer. Perhaps as a hooker his own self.
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MFS62 Mar 10 2008 01:09 PM |
Insert joke about screwing the voters here.
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metirish Mar 10 2008 01:11 PM |
Somewhere Joe Bruno is laughing.
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sharpie Mar 10 2008 01:11 PM |
Client. As recently as last month.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:14 PM |
Geez, that's not a sign of good judgment, is it?
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 01:17 PM |
As recently as last month!?!?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 10 2008 01:18 PM |
Wow. There's a document on Smoking Gun about the breakyup of such a ring I saw just today. Is that it?!?
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Fman99 Mar 10 2008 01:19 PM |
I think he was "polling the electorate."
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:27 PM |
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That's just nuts. I guess it's tough for a politician in office to get discreet nookie, but turning to prostitutes is one of the worst ways to do it. (Worse ways: tapping your feet in a bathroom stall or doing it with someone who's underage.) EDIT: Of course, the BEST way would be for him to do his "shagging" with his wife!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 10 2008 01:33 PM |
It is Spitzer in that document, referred to by the pimp as someone with a repuation for asking his whores to "do things you might not think are safe."
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 01:35 PM |
My brothers, if you're going to go into public service, you'll find that you'll have to exhibit a younger man's virility in tackling public problems, even as you grow older. If you can't deal with bringing that virility home to a wife who has had the audacity to let her body and appetites age, well, I would advise you to wank like a teenager.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:39 PM |
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Wow. I wonder if he asks them to eat wild mushrooms? Or run around with scissors in their hands? Or ride a bicycle without a helmet? The mind boggles!
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:40 PM |
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Your words contain great wisdom.
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metirish Mar 10 2008 01:42 PM |
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It's all going to be OK.......
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 01:46 PM |
I hope he doesn't make his wife stand next to him.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 10 2008 01:49 PM |
Let's elect some chicks already.
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 01:50 PM |
Hillary didn't stand next to him during the "I did not have sex with that woman" statment, but she did sit next to him on the couch gazing adoringly during the original 60 Minutes interview. And she held hands with him for happy couple shots for about a month afterward.
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metirish Mar 10 2008 01:50 PM |
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 01:51 PM |
Damn. How many teeth did she knock out?
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Nymr83 Mar 10 2008 01:57 PM |
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How about Nuns who have taken an oath of celibacy?
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metirish Mar 10 2008 02:04 PM |
It sure seems like a long time ago when Spitzer gained a National reputation as AG of NY.....
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Valadius Mar 10 2008 02:05 PM |
My thought:
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 02:06 PM |
The next guy who does something like this will win a tiny measure of respect from me if he says the following:
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metirish Mar 10 2008 02:10 PM |
Agnes might feel worse if her Governor husband quit to become a "Gay American".
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 02:12 PM |
Grimm and I have put way too much into thinking how we would comport ourselves should we get get publickly outed as men who pay for sex.
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smg58 Mar 10 2008 02:12 PM |
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I agree with the sentiment, but if they had that much respect for their wives, they wouldn't be in that situation in the first place. It always hurts more when the politician is somebody you once liked.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 10 2008 02:14 PM |
Elect Yancy or a chick already.
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 02:26 PM |
You might get something even more spectacular than a chick (although it depends on the chick). Your lieutenant governor, last time I checked, was African-American, from Harlem, and blind.
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metirish Mar 10 2008 02:28 PM |
I never knew he was blind , if Spitzer resigns will there be an election?
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Nymr83 Mar 10 2008 02:36 PM |
I don't know who would take over, but if its Patterson I'd rather see Spitzer stay, hookers and all.
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soupcan Mar 10 2008 02:37 PM |
I always thought Patterson's eyes were banged up looking but I did not realize he was blind.
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AG/DC Mar 10 2008 02:39 PM |
Born legally blind, according to wikipedia. Obviously there's a broad range of what that means.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 02:40 PM |
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As an agnostic, I seem to not be eligible for elected office.
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themetfairy Mar 10 2008 02:51 PM |
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He did. She was not her chipper, smiling self.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2008 02:51 PM |
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Below is the statement delivered by N.Y. Gov. Eliot Spitzer:
$4300! Now I'd like to see a photo of Kristen. I assume that's forthcoming, sooner or later.
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Frayed Knot Mar 10 2008 03:13 PM |
"I do not believe that politics in the long run is about individuals. It is about ideas,..."
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Nymr83 Mar 10 2008 03:50 PM |
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Hobbes lives on! (no, not the cartoon about the kid and the tiger)
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Kong76 Mar 10 2008 04:28 PM |
Funny thread, some great lines.
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themetfairy Mar 10 2008 04:43 PM |
I can't help thinking about La Cage aux Folles (or its Americanized version, The Birdcage), where you had a Minister of Morality (or some such position) who died in the arms of a prostitute.
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Nymr83 Mar 10 2008 04:52 PM |
Before this whole scandal broke his approval rating was 36% (56% disapproved.) Whats it going to look like afterwards? We're talking Bush-numbers here for the Democratic governor of a heavily Democratic state.
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Willets Point Mar 10 2008 05:00 PM |
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Someone who agrees with you: This is a press conference, not a Tammy Wynette song.
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Valadius Mar 10 2008 05:17 PM |
It's the downfall of the "fucking steamroller". Wow.
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DocTee Mar 10 2008 08:35 PM |
The "fucking steamroller"?
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AG/DC Mar 11 2008 08:28 AM |
New York Post: step down, Mr. Governor.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2008 08:30 AM |
When I picked up my morning papers today, just about every paper displayed had a different photo on the cover of Spitzer swallowing his lower lip.
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soupcan Mar 11 2008 08:42 AM |
Rep. Peter King (R) Staten Island: "This is is a guy who is so self-righteous, and so unforgiving...He has to step down."
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Willets Point Mar 11 2008 08:44 AM |
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Probably the least of his worries right now, but that is a horribly embarrassing photo.
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Frayed Knot Mar 11 2008 08:55 AM |
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Not to mention the tabloid headlines: NYDN: LUV GUV NYP: HO NO!
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 09:44 AM |
Looks like he's resigning. Governor Patterson it is.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2008 09:49 AM |
Good. Beat it, Eliot.
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seawolf17 Mar 11 2008 10:27 AM |
"HO NO!"
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seawolf17 Mar 11 2008 10:29 AM |
By the way, how great is it that we now have a blind governor? And secondly, how great is it that we elected a blind lieutenant governor and practically nobody realized? Outstanding.
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 10:37 AM |
He's legally blind not totally blind. My boss saw him get out of a taxi last year and walk into a building by himself without a cane or dog.
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seawolf17 Mar 11 2008 10:47 AM |
Right, but the point is that it's still a serious disability that nobody knew about. I'm not comparing it to FDR and his wheelchair, but it's still a big step for folks with physical disabilities.
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 10:48 AM |
Agreed.
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Willets Point Mar 11 2008 10:56 AM |
Thus he's not related to the famous family from suburban Ontario.
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Valadius Mar 11 2008 10:58 AM |
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Nice one. Here's the quote from Spitzer to James Tedisco: "I am a fucking steamroller and I'll roll over you or anybody else."
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Rockin' Doc Mar 11 2008 11:06 AM |
sharpie - "He's legally blind not totally blind...."
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Kong76 Mar 11 2008 11:56 AM |
*venting* Water cooler conversation today about how many more important
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AG/DC Mar 11 2008 11:59 AM |
You vent. Were these folks talking Project Runway last week?
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2008 12:08 PM |
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I agree with this move.
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Valadius Mar 11 2008 12:08 PM |
Paterson is totally blind in one eye and mostly blind in the other. He can see shapes and such.
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 12:26 PM |
O' course David Vitter, Senator from Louisiana, who patronized prostitutes in the D.C. Madam case is still around. Same with Larry Craig for that matter. Not quite sure why the double standard with Spitzer. Me, I think they should all go.
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AG/DC Mar 11 2008 12:30 PM |
Because he's your governor.
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soupcan Mar 11 2008 12:32 PM |
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Maybe because of the high moral and ethical ground that he made his platform.
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 12:35 PM |
Vitter, however, ran on platforms like abstinence-only education and has been friendly with Focus On the Family types. How is his hypocrisy any less?
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2008 12:49 PM |
Is there a difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch in matters like this? (Maybe, I don't know.)
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sharpie Mar 11 2008 01:02 PM |
Vitter also a regular customer of a criminal enterprise. The difference is that it happened 10 years ago. Otherwise, no difference.
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Willets Point Mar 11 2008 01:04 PM |
I think any public official who commits illegal acts should be barred from serving as a public official. It's just plain common sense. The only exceptions for me would be if the illegal act was conscientious objection against an unjust law and/or the public official has already served the punishment for the crime (and convince the electorate s/he is reformed).
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2008 01:10 PM |
Not making any comparative judgements here but seems like there is more to come on the Spitzer-whore story that I'm sure would interfere with his ability to get things done effectively. There's the criminal angle (possible money laundering and interstate whore-trafficking to begin with), but also there's surely lurid details forthcoming on his "unsafe" practices.
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Frayed Knot Mar 11 2008 01:26 PM |
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The problem is who enforces such a rule? Impeachment procedures are a check in the case of the executive branch, but the legislative body is sort of charged with disciplining itself and, aside from the occasional bouts of censure, they've proven to be very ineffective at doing so or have found their hands tied legally when they've tried. I remember stories of Adam Clayton Powell dodging being kicked out for years and thumbing his nose the entire time at those chasing him (both inside and outside Congress). Of course what would be really nice would be if the national party and/or the voters were to take care of the offending pol but too often such noble ideas run afoul of insiders trying to keep their party's margin or not putting a "safe" seat back into play. It's the old line about how the guy on the grill might be a lying, cheating, immoral scoundrel but he's OUR lying, cheating, immoral scoundrel. That was what pissed me off with Spitzer's line about how politics is about ideas rather than people; an attitude that tends to lead to forgiving just about anything so long as the crook is on the "correct" side of the issues.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2008 01:37 PM |
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What you say makes sense, but there are different types of "illegal acts" and the line has to be drawn somewhere. I wouldn't disqualify a guy for getting a speeding ticket or littering, for example. Maybe it should be a felony/misdemeanor thing.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2008 01:38 PM |
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I think I read somewhere that the "unsafe" thing he wanted to do wasn't anything uncommon. My guess is he wanted to get blown without a condom.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2008 01:42 PM |
Well that's lurider than than what's already out there already.
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Nymr83 Mar 11 2008 02:29 PM |
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Would it suprise you to learn that a current member of the House of Representatives was once impeached and removed from his office as a federal judge by Congress for accepting bribes and perjury? I don't know who is the bigger idiot(s), him, or the voters of his Florida district who elected him afterwards.
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AG/DC Mar 12 2008 08:21 AM |
We have mechanisms to throw people out without making a law automatically disqualifying them.
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Valadius Mar 12 2008 09:12 AM |
Spitzer to resign at 11:30 AM.
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Farmer Ted Mar 12 2008 11:26 AM |
My guess is he'll check into some sorta rehab ("I'm a sex addict") which will get the feds off his arse and allow him, at the least, the continue practicing law.
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AG/DC Mar 12 2008 11:32 AM |
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Frayed Knot Mar 12 2008 11:34 AM |
I guess, at this point, protecting his law license is his next major (professional) concern seeing as how his political career is in shambles.
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sharpie Mar 12 2008 11:57 AM |
He could always join his father's real estate firm.
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seawolf17 Mar 12 2008 12:53 PM |
Or he could do hooker commercials.
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AG/DC Mar 12 2008 01:05 PM |
The official new nickname for Royce Ring is "Prostitution."
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Willets Point Mar 12 2008 01:45 PM |
I can't believe Edgy posted a video that's full of pussy closeups.
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themetfairy Mar 12 2008 02:08 PM |
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Nymr83 Mar 12 2008 05:33 PM |
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that video had alot of pussy in it, everyobe should watch that thing and see the pussy
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MFS62 Mar 12 2008 06:37 PM |
What Spitzer did was reprehensible.
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Nymr83 Mar 12 2008 08:28 PM |
Well, at least she was HOT.
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seawolf17 Mar 12 2008 08:29 PM |
Quite a nice fake ring Client 9 gave her there.
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seawolf17 Mar 12 2008 08:31 PM |
Fox 5 News says that "Client 6" is the Duke of Westminster, the richest man in Britain. I can't wait to find out who the other clients are. This might be the best story in the history of news.
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soupcan Mar 13 2008 08:20 AM |
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Hmmmm, maybe I should get out in front of this story....
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Nymr83 Mar 17 2008 11:36 PM |
Patterson has admitted to cheating on his wife back in 2001. thats it, i want a single governor.
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sharpie Mar 18 2008 07:00 AM |
His wife was cheating on him at the same time. Smart of him to get this stuff out of the way.
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seawolf17 Mar 18 2008 07:17 AM |
Move along, people. Nothing to see here.
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AG/DC Mar 18 2008 07:23 AM |
Not until Paterson's paramour gets on the front page of the Post.
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seawolf17 Mar 18 2008 07:35 AM |
I think that's why he came clean, isn't it? Let it go.
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AG/DC Mar 18 2008 07:40 AM |
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Oh, I think it's gone. I don't "read" the Post anyhow. I still think they'll try and land her, though.
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sharpie Mar 18 2008 07:48 AM |
Joe Bruno is next in line of succession. Not sure what Seawolf's turn is.
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seawolf17 Mar 18 2008 08:25 AM |
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I'm just saying I'm available.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2008 08:38 AM |
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Apparently there's no provision for the new governor to pick a new lieutenant. Lieutenant Governor will remain vacant for the remainder of the current term. (Just like LBJ didn't have a VP until January 20, 1965.)
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Nymr83 Mar 18 2008 01:57 PM |
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yes it was, honesty is a good thing especially when it doesn't come only on the brink of an indictment (though even then it is better than lying.) Patterson did something wrong, but nothing as far as I know illegal. Its good that he admitted it and its good to immediately move on.
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Valadius Mar 18 2008 02:05 PM |
What matters is the here and now. Paterson and his wife have repaired their marriage. These affairs happened between seven and nine years ago. So he's not at fault here.
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themetfairy Mar 18 2008 02:18 PM |
This was also a good week to fess up. Compared to high priced hookers, a simple affair seems pretty tame.
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Nymr83 Mar 21 2008 12:19 PM |
Forget these guys, how about a Registered Sex Offender running for mayor in Wilmer, TX?
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