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IGT 04/05, Mets at Braves

KC Apr 05 2008 01:35 PM

Reyes ss Castillo 2b Wright 3b Beltran cf Delgado 1b Church rf Pagan lf Schneider c Maine p Escobar ss Kotsay cf Larry Wayne 3b Teixeira 1b McCann c Francoeur rf Diaz lf Prado 2b Hudson p

metirish Apr 05 2008 01:36 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2008 01:37 PM

I'm glued to the TV awaiting Ken Rosenthal's Pedro update.

KC Apr 05 2008 01:37 PM

I'm watching the Rays paste the Skanks again.

OlerudOwned Apr 05 2008 02:09 PM

Maine picking up where he left off.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 02:17 PM

Maine is getting squeezed big time.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 02:26 PM

Prado completely screw up an easy turn on the double-play ball, the mets tie it at 1.

Elster88 Apr 05 2008 03:01 PM

I forgot how much I hate the chop.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:06 PM

I think FOX's radar gun in on steroids

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 03:13 PM

I forgot how much I hate Tim McCarver.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 03:14 PM

Elster88 wrote: I forgot how much I hate the chop. I agree. I'll add Joe Buck, Tim McCarver and player interviews during the game to that list. And yes, the FOX radar gun does appear to be juiced.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 03:28 PM

The rain and Maine ruining my weekend thus far. The Mets O needs to chip away at Hudson to get to that bullpen.

OlerudOwned Apr 05 2008 03:30 PM

TransMonk wrote: ="Elster88"]I forgot how much I hate the chop. I agree. I'll add Joe Buck, Tim McCarver and player interviews during the game to that list. And yes, the FOX radar gun does appear to be juiced. They kept clocking Zumaya at something like a consistant 103 during the 2006 playoffs.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:34 PM

I know its only the 5th inning but pulling Maine for the punch-hitter here is the right move. 2nd and 3rd 1 out for Brady Clark!

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:35 PM

Clark HBP it jose jose jose with the bases loaded!!

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:36 PM

THAT BALL WAS NOT CAUGHT, IT WAS FUCKING TRAPPED!!!!

Zvon Apr 05 2008 03:36 PM

awwwwwwww,we wuz robbed!!!

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:36 PM

MUTHA-FUCKA THAT WAS TRAPPED!!!!

bmfc1 Apr 05 2008 03:37 PM

Are you fi'in kidding me?

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 03:37 PM

Biggest blown call I've ever seen.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:38 PM

oh my god they are reversing the call??? i guess they'll move everyone up one base, even though pagan would clearly have s cored as well, still its better than the blown call!

bmfc1 Apr 05 2008 03:38 PM

How can I get mad when umps at my kids games screw up when these clowns, making six figures a year, screw up night after night (Beltran the other night and now this)?

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 03:38 PM

Overturned...good for blue. We still potentially lose a run that would have scored.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:40 PM

I'm not sure what kind of leeway the umps have to reverse judgement calls like that. You run into a whole slew of factors that can't simply be righted by pretending the correct call was made in the first place. It's one of the main reasons why replay rules never work as smoothly in practice as they do in theory.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 03:42 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ...factors that can't simply be righted by pretending the correct call was made in the first place. really. They made a mess out of that. What a rip.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:44 PM

I'll take it, but I can also understand why the Braves would be pissed off too. One runner follows the umps call while the other ignores it and passes a runner in front of him and both wind up getting awarded their next base.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:44 PM

Castillo bring one home on a groundout... lets go Wright!

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:46 PM

damn. Wright grounds out to end it, I know the Mets got another run after the whole incident, but they really let the Braves off the hook there, gotta take advantage of these situations and tie the game up.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 03:46 PM

Well, that wacky inning makes it a game again. Time for the bullpen to shine.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:46 PM

Would have been nice if we could have made a bigger mess out of that inning after the reversal. One more hit breaks that puppy wide open.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 03:51 PM

1-2-3 go the Braves, i've missed Joe Smith pitching.

soupcan Apr 05 2008 03:52 PM

How do McCarver and Buck pose the question that Pagan should be out because he passed Church, when the only reason he passed Church is because the umpires blew the call? Seems pretty stupid to me.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 03:53 PM

soupcan wrote: How do McCarver and Buck pose the question that Pagan should be out because he passed Church, when the only reason he passed Church is because the umpires blew the call? Seems pretty stupid to me. I agree--that was my only thought during the whole rap.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 03:56 PM

soupcan wrote: How do McCarver and Buck pose the question that Pagan should be out because he passed Church, when the only reason he passed Church is because the umpires blew the call? Seems pretty stupid to me. Well, Church reacted to what the umps called and Pagan should have too. Pagan was merely following Alomar who didn't seem to notice the call either.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 04:01 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="soupcan"]How do McCarver and Buck pose the question that Pagan should be out because he passed Church, when the only reason he passed Church is because the umpires blew the call? Seems pretty stupid to me. Well, Church reacted to what the umps called and Pagan should have too. Pagan was merely following Alomar who didn't seem to notice the call either. Alomar saw the play, lol. Hey, if we at home watchin on TV could plainly see (live) that it was trapped how could the ump not? Ok, ill shut-up. (just venting) Water under the bridge at this point.

soupcan Apr 05 2008 04:02 PM

That ball was so obviously not caught - you can't fault Pagan for seeing that and continuing.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 04:08 PM

The Goat pinch-hitting for the Braves! And singles.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 04:11 PM

....the 'ol ex-team payback factor. ><

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 04:11 PM

soupcan wrote: That ball was so obviously not caught - you can't fault Pagan for seeing that and continuing. The ball could bounce 4 times before Kotsay gets to it but if the ump calls it a catch then it's a catch (at least until further notice) and all runners need to react accordingly. And it's not Pagan at fault so much as it's Alomar who was windmilling his arm to send Pagan home like an out call was never even a possibility -- but when a play is even semi-close it's something the coach oughta be sure of before he starts sending runners. And now I'll shut up -- except to repeat that situations like that are why reversing calls (either thru conference or replay) are rarely clean and easy.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 04:15 PM

Lefty specialist extraordinaire Scott Schoeneweis gives up a run.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 04:17 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Lefty specialist extraordinaire Scott Schoeneweis gives up a run. Really, it was Smith's run. And Show gets Chipper to pop-up.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 04:21 PM

Peter Moylan, representing the soft, white, down-under belly of the Braves bullpen.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 04:23 PM

Swing the Effin' bat!!!!

bmfc1 Apr 05 2008 04:24 PM

Bad AB... Buck & McCarver were right--he should have been swinging.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 04:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2008 04:26 PM

="TransMonk"] ="Triple Dee"]Lefty specialist extraordinaire Scott Schoeneweis gives up a run. Really, it was Smith's run. And Show gets Chipper to pop-up. I'm glad somebody got Larry out today.

KC Apr 05 2008 04:25 PM

Why the fuck is Reyes bunting with two guys on in the 7th and one out?

bmfc1 Apr 05 2008 04:25 PM

How about a 2-out hit??? Come on David!

KC Apr 05 2008 04:26 PM

Sorry, thread's ahead of me again ...

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 04:26 PM

Wright kills his 2nd rally of the day.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 04:27 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2008 04:28 PM

KC wrote: Sorry, thread's ahead of me again ... No, it's just me posting in delay.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 04:28 PM

1 for 9 with RISP today. Wright comes up with nothing on his second chance to potentially tie the game.

KC Apr 05 2008 04:35 PM

FOX booth regresses into Yankee talk during a Mets/Braves game. What a surprise.

bmfc1 Apr 05 2008 04:46 PM

Why wasn't Feliciano or Wise ready for this situation?

Zvon Apr 05 2008 04:46 PM

throw strikes Sosa--whatRyaDoin?

KC Apr 05 2008 04:48 PM

SOSA! Grand salami!

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 04:48 PM

Well, that sucks.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 04:48 PM

he had the Braves 'pullin tendons' a few batters ago. OW---well,...that was strike. Thats all I asked GRANDOSALAMI

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 04:48 PM

Sosa gives up the grand slam :( its 9-3 braves

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 04:49 PM

That hurts.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2008 04:51 PM

This is all just gonna make the comeback that much more amazin'!

KC Apr 05 2008 04:51 PM

Z: >>>he had the Braves 'pullin tendons' a few batters ago<<< That's pretty funny, and nice to see you around again.

KC Apr 05 2008 04:57 PM

Not digging the canned Ken Rosenthal crap during the game. I like the guy, I just don't need it canned for me on a Saturday b'cast. I'm getting cranky.

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 04:58 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: This is all just gonna make the comeback that much more amazin'! We are 6 more doubles away after two 2 baggers by the Carloses.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 04:58 PM

...only pretty funny? tuff room. *adjusts tie* Im with The Knot. I smell a comeback. Back2back doubles to start the 8th

Zvon Apr 05 2008 05:05 PM

Ugh, I thought Pagan ripped that for a gapper. After 7 and a half, 5-9, them. One more inning to do the do.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 05:15 PM

We were supposed to hold em here in the 8th.

metirish Apr 05 2008 05:16 PM

It's all over now boys bar the shouting.

KC Apr 05 2008 05:18 PM

We'll get 'em tomorrow. I ain't takin' Zach down until we get a W, maybe 2.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 05:23 PM

Shame on you Jose, chasin pitches like that.

Zvon Apr 05 2008 05:24 PM

TransMonk Apr 05 2008 05:25 PM

Well, we had sole possession of first place for a couple hours today. What a queer game. The Mets had many opportunities to change the complexion of this game...maybe not win, but be closer than they were. I'm not going to dwell on this loss for too long, but this type of play better not become a habit. Back at 'em tomorrow.

Willets Point Apr 05 2008 05:28 PM

Sad, I thought they had a comeback in 'em today. Oh well, there's still a lot of baseball, we'll get 'em tomorrow.

Fman99 Apr 05 2008 05:30 PM

Santana gets his first chance to be the stopper.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 05:40 PM

General observation: I'm really starting to worry about Delgado -- every pitch in the mid-80's and above, he's missing by a mile.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 06:34 PM

Another point - why does Willie bring-in Sosa in a close game, instead of going with Heilman or Feliciano. Do these players have a contractual clause that allows them to pitch only when the Mets have the lead? Yes, you guessed it, I'm feeling rather pissed at the moment.

Nymr83 Apr 05 2008 06:38 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Another point - why does Willie bring-in Sosa in a close game, instead of going with Heilman or Feliciano. Do these players have a contractual clause that allows them to pitch only when the Mets have the lead? you can't call for Heilman every time the game is +/- 3 runs, he'll pitch 70-80 games this year, if he'd pitched today and every game like today he'd have to throw 120 games. later in the season you may choose to use him on a day like today if he hasn't worked much lately, but it was the right move not to use him today.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 07:41 PM

Okay, but it doesn't explain why he left Sosa in for as long as he did.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 05 2008 08:38 PM

I was watching halfway across a crowded restaurant and even I knew that was a clean single. Didn't see how they worked it out till now. But what crap 'piring we've seen this season already. That obviously affected the game in ways we'll never know but I have to think the interruption itself was a great advantage for the Braves. Anyway, I also noted the complete dumbth Reyes showed twice trying to bunt there and think he oughta be traded to the Orioles as punishment. What a complete idiot. As if setting it up for Castillo is ever a good idea. Hello McFly. I missed most of Maine's outing, he apparently sucked bhmc, huh? That Soso struggled doesn't come as nearly as big a surprise. Obviously we need better than that from Maine, we've lost twice, both times our starter didn't give us enough and we had to play from behind.

AG/DC Apr 05 2008 09:14 PM

When the starter is chased after four, I've got nothing to say about bullpen choices. Everybdoy grab a bucket and start bailing. I liked the .667 Mets better than the .500 Mets.

Triple Dee Apr 05 2008 09:30 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Anyway, I also noted the complete dumbth Reyes showed twice trying to bunt there and think he oughta be traded to the Orioles as punishment. What a complete idiot. As if setting it up for Castillo is ever a good idea. Hello McFly. After his first bunt failed, the 3rd base coach walked towards the batter's box and said something. I wonder what he said. I'm guessing it wasn't "Yeah, bunting here is a good idea".