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IGT 04/08 OPENING DAY AT SHEA TODAY! HOORAY!

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 07:56 AM

According to SportsNight on SNY, today is the "22ND AND FINAL HOME OPENER."

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 08:27 AM

22nd? am i correct in assuming that does not count when the actual season opener was held at home?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 08:28 AM

I think their number is just plain wrong. If they were only counting games where the season itself opened at Shea, then today's wouldn't count.

Triple Dee Apr 08 2008 08:37 AM

I'm psyched! BG, sounds like everybody is going to the game, apart from you and me.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 08:37 AM

i take it that home opener and season opener are two seeparate concepts. today being the home opener, and that in 21 other prior seasons, the mets started the season on the road, resulting in a subsequent 'home opener' held at shea.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 08:38 AM

i wont be there either...

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 08:40 AM

Triple Dee wrote: I'm psyched! BG, sounds like everybody is going to the game, apart from you and me. I can't even watch it on TV. Part of the unholy deal I had to make to get Extra Innings was that I can't watch Phillies games on their local cable station. (Comcast and DirecTV don't talk to each other.) Oh well. I attended every home opener from 1978 through 1992. I look at myself as a retired Opening Day veteran. This one would have been nice to have been to, though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 08:55 AM

Little chilly out there today. Not to suggest I'm lucky to be in a cubicle or anything.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 09:31 AM

metirish Apr 08 2008 09:34 AM

Take the #7 train, it might be fun. ] 'Wright' boards train to last Shea opener By Bill Hutchinson Daily News Staff Writer Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 4:00 AM If you spot Mets star David Wright on the No. 7 train Tuesday, don't mistake his waxy look for Opening Day jitters at Shea. To celebrate the last opening at the 44-year-old Queens ballpark, a wax figure of the Amazin's third baseman will ride the train from the 42nd St. station to the game. The life-size replica will leave Madame Tussauds Wax Museum in Times Square for the first time since being unveiled last year to commemorate Shea's final season. Weather watchers are forecasting balmy temperatures for today's 1:10 p.m. first pitch against the Philadelphia Phillies. It won't be hot enough to cause Wright a meltdown, said meteorologist Mike Silva of the National Weather Service. He said morning clouds will give way to sunshine with temperatures in the mid-50s. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is rolling out its "nostalgia train" to ferry the waxy Wright and other dignitaries, including Mr. Met. The train will feature an original "Bluebird" car, the type that ran on the 7 line when Shea opened in 1964. Mets officials are to board the train with the Wright statue at 11:30 a.m. and help the MTA pitch its "Take the Train to the Game" initiative at a noon press conference at the Willets Point/Shea Stadium stop.

sharpie Apr 08 2008 09:41 AM

I'm not there.

Triple Dee Apr 08 2008 09:57 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't even watch it on TV. Part of the unholy deal I had to make to get Extra Innings was that I can't watch Phillies games on their local cable station. (Comcast and DirecTV don't talk to each other.) Maybe you can get around that by subscribing to MLB.TV instead (ie watching through the internet). Then only Phillies games in Philly will be subject to blackout. (I'm assuming you live around the Philly area). Benjamin Grimm wrote: This one would have been nice to have been to, though. Yeah, I know what you mean.

Mr. Zero Apr 08 2008 10:00 AM

For the life of me I can't imagine what kind of P.R. meeting would produce the idea: "Let's have a wax figure of David Wright ride the 7 train to Shea". Then again, probably the same type of brainstorming that generated: "Lets have an apple pop out of a top hat whenever a Met hits a home run". The local watering hole for opening ceremoinies and a couple innings I hope.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 10:32 AM

Rollins Victorino Utley Howard Burrell Werth Feliz Ruiz Moyer Reyes Castillo Wright Beltran Delgado Pagan Church Schneider Perez

metirish Apr 08 2008 10:40 AM

Mr. Zero wrote: For the life of me I can't imagine what kind of P.R. meeting would produce the idea: "Let's have a wax figure of David Wright ride the 7 train to Shea". Then again, probably the same type of brainstorming that generated: "Lets have an apple pop out of a top hat whenever a Met hits a home run". The local watering hole for opening ceremoinies and a couple innings I hope. Probably the same brainstorming session that " pick the eighth inning song" came from.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 10:40 AM

I hope the tradition of the Shea family presenting an Opening Day horseshoe of flowers to the Mets manager continues into Citi Field. Is Ralph Kiner there today? He ought to be.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 10:41 AM

They're introducing the Phillies' clubhouse staff? Isn't that a bit much?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 10:42 AM

And the Mets fans are booing the video coordinator and the team travel director. Booo! Equipment manager Dan O'Roarke! BOOO!

metirish Apr 08 2008 10:43 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: They're introducing the Phillies' clubhouse staff? Isn't that a bit much? I saw that in one the the games I saw last week, the masseuse was introduced , actually it was the yankees guy.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 10:48 AM

I was hoping for pinstripes and blue caps today, but instead it's solid whites and the blue and black caps.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 10:49 AM

A guy masseuse? How does that work?

metirish Apr 08 2008 10:51 AM

AG/DC wrote: A guy masseuse? How does that work? It's the yankees and if you saw him you would know how it works.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 10:53 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 10:56 AM

What the...? I've been blacked out? Hey, MLB, MLBite me. Note: If you are traveling and are accessing the Internet connection through your company's VPN connection, you might be getting a blackout message because your company's host IP Address is within the restricted range for the game that you are trying to access. In this case you can simply log off your company's VPN connection and access the Internet through a local connection. I what?

metirish Apr 08 2008 10:55 AM

What's going on there now, are they introducing the Mets, who's doing it, Howie? , is Ralph there?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 10:56 AM

Howie's on the field introducing the players. Right now they're about to unveil the SHEA logo to the left of Casey's 37.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:01 AM

And the blackout kicks in just as the National Anthem gets started. The international recording artist got to the "dawn's early light" part and the screen went black. "This program is not available in your area. (727)"

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:17 AM

I have the radio on now. Shane Victorino gets a bloop single, Utley gets nicked by a pitch. One our, Ryan Howard batting with two runners on. Could be trouble...

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:18 AM

Howard pops it up. Now Burrell, with two out He's never done anything to hurt the Mets, has he?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:20 AM

And Burrell is called out on strikes! HE STRUCK HIM OUT! I can picture Ollie jumping over the foul line...

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:21 AM

Mets are 7-0 vs the Phils in home openers. Man, Perez made Burrell look like a fool that at-bat. He looks at a curve for strike 3. Niiiice.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 11:22 AM

I can picture Bob Murphy calling the game up in heaven.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 11:22 AM

SHOUT BAMALAMA!

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 11:22 AM

Effin' A, Mets. Did you see the story on SNY the other day about the Opening Day party at some bar, with all the crazy die-hard Mets fans there? Not a single fucking black hat in the bunch. Every person they showed had the same fitted blue cap. No black, no pink, no green, no white. Blue, with the orange interlocking NY. Is it so fucking hard to keep one hat? Really?

Triple Dee Apr 08 2008 11:27 AM

Is it just me or does Castillo look like he has a permanent limp?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:28 AM

Valadius wrote: I can picture Bob Murphy calling the game up in heaven. Unfortunately I can't get that broadcast. I'm making do, quite nicely, with Howie and Wayne.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 11:29 AM

seawolf17 wrote: Effin' A, Mets. Did you see the story on SNY the other day about the Opening Day party at some bar, with all the crazy die-hard Mets fans there? Not a single fucking black hat in the bunch. Every person they showed had the same fitted blue cap. No black, no pink, no green, no white. Blue, with the orange interlocking NY. Is it so fucking hard to keep one hat? Really? I didn't, but I think that should be clipped and sent to the Mets along with a version of this post. Send it to www.bantheblack.com as well.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:33 AM

Sounds like Wright hit one deep, a potential two-run homer that died at the warning track. Still scoreless, Phillies batting in the second.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:40 AM

Im getting the Phillies local feed, still very much free public access.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:40 AM

As Howie's talking about how well Delgado does against Moyer, Carlos launches one out of the park.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 11:40 AM

CARLOS DELGADO GOES KABOOM!!

Valadius Apr 08 2008 11:41 AM

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:41 AM

Pagan almost makes it back to back. Falls short to the track in left center.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 11:42 AM

I hope Delgado pays for all those decorative porcelain logos he breaks.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 11:42 AM

Always liked that Delgado kid.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 11:44 AM

For all those who've doubted Delgado, he's currently hitting at .381.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:45 AM

Chase pulls off the 4-3 DP. Tags Church (hit by pitch) and tosses to 1st. We aren't we wearing the pinstripes?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:47 AM

Valadius wrote: For all those who've doubted Delgado, he's currently hitting at .381. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned. Really nice to see him pull that out.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 11:48 AM

Valadius wrote: For all those who've doubted Delgado, he's currently hitting at .381. Dude has 21 ABs. Let's relax a bit.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:53 AM

Yeah, he's proven that he's still capable of having a good week. We'll need more than that from him. Hopefully we'll get it, but I don't think he'll get in the neighborhood of 38 home runs again.

Triple Dee Apr 08 2008 11:54 AM

Fugly number font on Phillies unis.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 11:55 AM

can anyone help me out with this play... 2nd inning: "Pedro Feliz grounds into unassisted double play, first baseman Carlos Delgado. Jayson Werth out at 2nd. Two out." what happened there?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 11:55 AM

Three innings gone already. Game's moving briskly.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:57 AM

Local rag covering yesterdays Phils win vs Cincinnati. It doesn't say Phils beat Reds or anything like that. It says: BURRELL'S HRs HELP PHILLIES PREP FOR METS I think that shows you how the locals feel about this rivalry.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 11:59 AM

metsmarathon wrote: can anyone help me out with this play... 2nd inning: "Pedro Feliz grounds into unassisted double play, first baseman Carlos Delgado. Jayson Werth out at 2nd. Two out." what happened there? Feliz grounded into double play, out at first, Werth out at second. Guess that doesn't answer your question,lol. I dunno, I was AFTV at the time.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 12:00 PM

metsmarathon wrote: can anyone help me out with this play... 2nd inning: "Pedro Feliz grounds into unassisted double play, first baseman Carlos Delgado. Jayson Werth out at 2nd. Two out." what happened there? Feliz hit a liner that got to delgado on one hop, delgado stepped on the bag and the tagged Werth (who i guess is out at 2nd because he was attempting to advance as oppose to diving back to first?)

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:02 PM

He's out "at second" because first was already attained.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:02 PM

Perez gets Howard, who I have dubbed "The Bigger Hurt", on that nasty slow curve. STRIKE 3-YOUR OUTTA THERE.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 12:03 PM

ok, that makes sense to me. thanks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:05 PM

Howie & Hagin impressed with Delgado's homer. Just heard my first Wayne Hagin inning and say... um. Didn;t suck at least. Woulda been nice if the top of the order gave him something to call.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:08 PM

oooo--big nasty collision between Victorino and Werth chasing down Wrights drive to the gap in right center.

Triple Dee Apr 08 2008 12:09 PM

Victorino has no future in the NFL.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:11 PM

But Victorino caught the ball? Anyone going off on a stretcher?

metirish Apr 08 2008 12:11 PM

How nasty was the collision ?, Beltran , Cameron bad?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:11 PM

On replay..meh, Ive seen far worse. Even the Phils talking heads brought up the Hahn/Theodore one from the 70's. They did hit solid but both are ok and the game resumes. And yea, Shane caught and held on to the drive.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:14 PM

metirish wrote: How nasty was the collision ?, Beltran , Cameron bad? no where near. Just hit solid at mid body and fell. Shane was moving fast tho--Werth just came in from off camera. OOOOO, nice piece of hitting by Delgado taking the outside curve thru the shift for a looping basehit to left.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:15 PM

Pagan entering to the Indana Jones theme. Come on and bring back Jane Jarvis.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 12:15 PM

Can we please hurry up and torch Jamie Moyer?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:16 PM

Two on, big spot for Pagan.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:16 PM

Utley bobbles, bases loaded.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:17 PM

Sounded like an error on the radio, but it's an infield single for Pagan.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:17 PM

Valadius wrote: Can we please hurry up and torch Jamie Moyer? Slowing down might be a good idea considering he'd retired us the first time through on about 30 pitches.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 12:17 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Is it just me or does Castillo look like he has a permanent limp? I was half listening to a radio interview with Willie a couple of days ago and he said something about Castillo having one leg shorter than the other. Didn't catch all the details but he's definitely one of those guys who has a different style gait when he's walking as opposed to running.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:18 PM

NICE. Ground to the hole between 1st and 2nd, Utley makes a great play, from his knees looks to get Delagado at 2nd, sees he cant. Goes for Pagan at 1st,..late. Infield single.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:18 PM

I disapprove of the Washington hat Church is wearing on my Gamecast thingy.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:18 PM

Little grounder by Church brings the second run home.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:19 PM

I can't imagine facing Moyer as a lefty is similar to the expeiences of facing a lefty who throws at something like a big-league speed. Do they walk Schneider?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:19 PM

IBB for Schneider. The Phillies don't fear Oliver Perez's bat.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:20 PM

Schneid has the same hat.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:20 PM

Church with a weak grounder to 2nd- only play is to 1st. Mets plate a run. Phils will walk Schneider intentionally.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:20 PM

Make him pay in blood, Ollie.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 12:21 PM

were i the phillies i'd have pitched to schneider.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:22 PM

He's gotta do it now so he can clear the Reyes.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:24 PM

Castillo out of the game, Easley in.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:25 PM

How about that?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:25 PM

Maybe I wasn't just hating.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:26 PM

It would have been a good game to start the Omen anyhow.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 12:27 PM

What's wrong with Castillo? Why's he out of the game?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:29 PM

Single and a walk puts two Phils on. Perez was all over the place facing Moyer. Inexcusable. One out,Rollins up.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:29 PM

Perez seems to be losing the plate. Walked Moyer, now behind on Rollins.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:31 PM

Valadius wrote: What's wrong with Castillo? Why's he out of the game? "Right knee soreness."

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 12:33 PM

J-Roll hits a weak grounder to 3rd, Wright gets the force at 2nd and that is all. Two out.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 12:32 PM

Perez gets a grounder to Wright, but Rollins gets to first before the DP can be completed. Two out, two on. Victorino batting.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 12:32 PM

Oy. Willie needs to send The Jacket out there to talk to Ollie.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:32 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ="Valadius"]What's wrong with Castillo? Why's he out of the game? "Right knee soreness." .....not "Right leg shortness"?

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 12:32 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ="Valadius"]What's wrong with Castillo? Why's he out of the game? "Right knee soreness." 4 years of this huh? 4 years of cranky knees and infield power!

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:34 PM

Gets Victorino to pop up to deep short.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:34 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: 4 years of this huh? 4 years of cranky knees and infield power! No. If he can't play, they'll eat the contract. Don't worry about the four years. Meanwhile, Perez pitches out of his jam and, I imagine, has taken a nice happy leap over the foul line.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:36 PM

Ollie's a matador. A bullfighter. Gets 'em worked up then escapes with a flourish.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 12:38 PM

For all those who doubted Delgado, he's currently hitting at .409.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:40 PM

Mr. Wright with a nice 2 out double past Burrell in left.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:50 PM

Ughhh. The 3-2 pitch to Burrell looked like a strike on the inside to me, but he gets the free pass.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:50 PM

Oh Jeez. Peterson to the mound. I smell a home run...

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 12:52 PM

Nope. Instead we get a balk and a wild pitch.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 12:53 PM

Werth's MLB photo shows this thing on his chin that looks worse than Speiezo's! FUGLY!

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 12:54 PM

Ollie gets the first two but then can't last the inning. Smith in to face Feliz - 1st & 3rd/2 out

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 12:57 PM

="SteveJRogers"]Werth's MLB photo shows this thing on his chin that looks worse than Speiezo's! FUGLY! The worst chin fuzz of the year contest has already been decided and the winner is Nick Swisher for his oddly-shaped and blond-dyed goatee-like patch.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 12:57 PM

Ninety-four pitches is a short workday.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 12:57 PM

I agree with going to the bullpen here even though Perez had yet to allowa run. two walks in an inning worries me far more than two singles would have, call it a day and get a fresh arm in there.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:58 PM

So, Phils on 1st and 3rd, 2 out, Feliz at-bat. Smith goes to work. And.....................walks the bases loaded. Gah.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 12:59 PM

Here's what Joe Smith looks like on my Gamecast

Zvon Apr 08 2008 12:59 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Here's what Joe Smith looks like on my Gamecast I didn't know he was black.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:00 PM

Smith gets out of it with a weak grounder to short, force at 2nd. Good job Joe Smith.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:02 PM

Despite the walk, I have some Schaefer reserved (at this point, anyway) for Joe Smith.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:05 PM

Phils broadcast just showed some really nice footage of Shea's 1st year. Very nice. Now they are taking about Tommie Agee and how he was one of the hardest sliders in the game. I never really thought of him as such but thinking back this is true.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 01:09 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Fair point, but as we are seeing with Reyes you have to deal with a selfish, me-first malcontent hot dog when things don't go according to plan. Robinson was a winning ballplayer with tons of heart and determination, can you REALLY say that about Rickey Henderson? Yes Henderson does have an MVP, but really, was Henderson THAT much of a difference maker on those A's teams? Or those Blue Jays teams a few years later? Give me a few Robinson types over a few Henderson/Reyes types if I want to build a winner. i guess you want Jeters over Arods too? stop talking about BS like "heart" and "determination" and try discussing actual contributions towards winning.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 01:09 PM

Sorry. Pulled the rug out from under you there, Namor.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:09 PM

Smith's work is done. Pitching change....

smg58 Apr 08 2008 01:12 PM

It's So against The Show.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 01:12 PM

So v. Show.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 01:13 PM

Phils burn a player as Taguchi bats for Dobbs who was going to bat for Moyer prior to Willie switching Schoeneweis for Smith.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:14 PM

Dobbs for Moyer Show for Smith So for Dobbs

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:17 PM

So I can call Schoeneweis Show? I like. Cuz the odds of me spelling his name right again are gazillion to one. (Cut and pasted the one above^)

smg58 Apr 08 2008 01:20 PM

Show faces three straight righties and gets one out. Now he faces Utley and Howard with one out and two on.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 01:21 PM

And he promptly plunks Utley to load the bases. I don't think anybody's warming up, either.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:22 PM

I think I heard that Sosa is throwing.

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 01:22 PM

3 HBPs for Utley today?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:23 PM

I'm getting September flashbacks. A double play grounder turns into a hit runner and two runs coming home.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:23 PM

I think we got to start aiming for his privates

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:24 PM

3rd time today Chase has been kerplunked. GAH! Delgado gets a DP grounder and his throw hits Utley in the back. 2 runs score. Tie game.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:25 PM

Oi vey!

metirish Apr 08 2008 01:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 01:29 PM

Schoeneweis didn't need that right there, nor did we but this guy needed a good outing.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 01:26 PM

clearly we are not hitting utley hard enough...

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:26 PM

Its like an extension of the last few months of last season (oh the collapse started back in June-ish when it seems the Mets were playing like the division was just going to be handed to them.)

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 01:27 PM

Sosa and Endy in on a double-switch. Shoeneweis and Pagan out.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:31 PM

Burrell has had a hot opening this season, with 3 homers and 9 RBI, but the Mets have kept him in check thus far. Sosa gets him to hit a deep fly to right and runner on 2nd tags up.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 01:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 01:32 PM

So, considering that it's already the 7th inning, why Schoeneweis and not Feliciano? PF has made one appearence so far this season and it was for 1 inning in the 13-0 blowout. This was Show's 4th outing.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:32 PM

And a single brings the go-ahead run home.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:32 PM

I've been wondering what injury he's hiding.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:33 PM

Ugh, Werth with a single to right off a good pitch. He went out and got it and just poked it to right. Phils take the lead.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:33 PM

Yup new season, same Mets. How soon before "Willie Must Go!" chants start at Shea?

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 01:33 PM

Schoeneweis pitching in a high leverage situation to 3 consecutive right-handers is something I hope I don't see much this season.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:34 PM

If the Mets win this game, it will be a nice rousing victory. If they lose, it's going to be a big stink hovering over their heads. Everyone will be convinced that the Phillies have them spooked. This probably won't be such a happy Seventh Inning Stretch here.

Rotblatt Apr 08 2008 01:34 PM

I think I'm done with baseball for the season. This is painful.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 01:34 PM

metirish wrote: Schoeneweis didn't need that right there, nor did we but this guy needed a good outing. Yes, but the situation called for Feliciano, not him.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:35 PM

Yeah, not even Lazy Mary will fire up the crowd this time!

metirish Apr 08 2008 01:35 PM

Only Rick Astley can save this day now.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 01:35 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Its like an extension of the last few months of last season (oh the collapse started back in June-ish when it seems the Mets were playing like the division was just going to be handed to them.) The collapse started when Rickey Henderson stunk up the World Series in 1990.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:35 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Yup new season, same Mets. How soon before "Willie Must Go!" chants start at Shea? I think Edgy should create a new section. Call it "GET DOWN WITH STEVE".

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 01:35 PM

smg58 wrote: Yes, but the situation called for Feliciano, not him. If Feliciano is available, having Schoeneweis pitching in that situation is inexcusable.

sharpie Apr 08 2008 01:38 PM

My boss came in to my office and I had to turn off the radio just as Schoeneweis came in. Radio is now back on and Schneider leads off with a single. She better not come back in here.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:38 PM

If ever the was a time for Reyes to WAKE THE FUCK UP, it is right now, this inning!

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 01:38 PM

Endy, get out there and run for Schneider.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2008 01:38 PM

Schneider smacks the first pitch he sees from Chad Durbin up the middle for a base hit. Endy to bunt? ... I wouldn't.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:40 PM

Ooops

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 01:40 PM

metirish wrote: Only Rick Astley can save this day now. That's outstanding. I'm laughing my ass off.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:41 PM

Number 6 wrote: Schoeneweis pitching in a high leverage situation to 3 consecutive right-handers is something I hope I don't see much this season. Is your handle a nod to "The Prisoner"?

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 01:41 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 01:42 PM

jesus christ. we're down one fucking run in the seventh inning of the sixth fucking game of the goddamned season. we're looking at three innings against the soft fleshy underbelly of the phillies. its far from over, and you're ready to throw in the towel on the fresh season? fucking hell. get over it.

Valadius Apr 08 2008 01:42 PM

Hear hear marathon!

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 01:42 PM

[valadius]If the Mets lose this game, they will not win the division. It'd be mathematically impossible.[/valadius] edit: Just messing with you, Val. You're always so definitive on things.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:42 PM

metsmarathon wrote: jesus christ. we're down one fucking run in the seventh inning of the sixth fucking game of the goddamned season. we're looking at three innings against the soft fleshy underbelly of the phillies. its far from over, and you're ready to throw in the towel on the fresh season? fucking hell. get over it. Right now I'd rather have m.e.t.b.o.t. playing than most of the guys on our roster!

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:43 PM

UGHHHHH. Reyes singles and I REALLY thought Easley hit one out. Looked like he got all of it and the crowd thought so too, from the sound of it. But it falls short on the track in left. Daym.

Rotblatt Apr 08 2008 01:43 PM

metsmarathon wrote: jesus christ. we're down one fucking run in the seventh inning of the sixth fucking game of the goddamned season. we're looking at three innings against the soft fleshy underbelly of the phillies. its far from over, and you're ready to throw in the towel on the fresh season? fucking hell. get over it. Has this forum lost its sense of gallows humor? How sad . . .

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:44 PM

And as of today, that includes Reyes!

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 01:44 PM

Zvon wrote: Is your handle a nod to "The Prisoner"? Yup.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 01:45 PM

Jackie Robinson would have hit a grand slam in that spot.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:45 PM

Number 6 wrote: Yup. Now that's a sacred post.

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 01:45 PM

Number 6 wrote: Yup. I'm guessing that was a very concise Seaver post.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:46 PM

Easy there Wolfie!

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:46 PM

="Number 6"] ="Zvon"]Is your handle a nod to "The Prisoner"? Yup. I like.

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 01:47 PM

Thanks Aaron. Walks Ruiz to lead off the 8th.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:47 PM

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 01:47 PM

Sorry I'm blasting everyone who gets in my way. Dealing with lots of ignorant parents today, which makes me grouchy.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:48 PM

HA! So I'm guessing a lot of them are wondering what is it going to take to get their kid into Stony Brook or trying to finagle there way to an easy track to a 4.0?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:49 PM

4-2. Rollins hits an RBI single to right, a one hopper under Delgado's outstretched glove.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 01:50 PM

Well, fuck. Cancel the season. edit: SJR, more the former than the latter. Thankfully, I don't deal much with the latter.

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 01:50 PM

I guess getting rid of Mota was not addition by subtraction for our bullpen.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:51 PM

Zvon wrote: 4-2. Rollins hits an RBI single to right, a one hopper under Delgado's outstretched glove. Thats why he is the MVP! SC=2007

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 01:51 PM

Zvon wrote: 4-2. Rollins hits an RBI single to right, a one hopper under Delgado's outstretched glove. I'm following on gametracker. Do I read this as "Delgado should have had it"?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:52 PM

Are they booing? Or saying Boo-urns?

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 01:53 PM

my bad. i clicked over to see the rest of the forum activities, saw hte reyes, rickey and robinson thread and started skimming. then the phillies scored another run. sorry about that. if it makes anyone feel any better, my brain hurts now.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:53 PM

HahnSolo wrote: ="Zvon"]4-2. Rollins hits an RBI single to right, a one hopper under Delgado's outstretched glove. I'm following on gametracker. Do I read this as "Delgado should have had it"? Well,...I thought so but it would have been a helluva play. It was reachable. Was not routine.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 01:56 PM

I picked the wrong afternoon to stop sniffing glue.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:56 PM

That damn Utley lines a double over Churches head in right, and now my head hurts too.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 01:57 PM

Is Feliciano OK? This is two innings in a row where he should have been brought in.

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 01:57 PM

grr...

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 01:59 PM

5-2 ballgame. I don't think it is hyperbole to suggest at this point that what the Mets do between right now and Thursday night will go a long way in determining what kind of season we have in Flushing.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 01:59 PM

Rollins limped in from 2nd....he hurt himself on one of those throws to second Aaron didn't make. Heilman bluffed a throw back to 2nd afew times before the Utley hit. Rollins is leaving the dugout with the trainer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 01:59 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: 5-2 ballgame. I don't think it is hyperbole to suggest at this point that what the Mets do between right now and Thursday night will go a long way in determining what kind of season we have in Flushing. And that's because you're a fucking idiot.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:00 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: 5-2 ballgame. I don't think it is hyperbole to suggest at this point that what the Mets do between right now and Thursday night will go a long way in determining what kind of season we have in Flushing. I think its superhyperbole-exbeealadcious.

metirish Apr 08 2008 02:02 PM

smg58 wrote: Is Feliciano OK? This is two innings in a row where he should have been brought in. We need to know the answer to this , damn.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:03 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]5-2 ballgame. I don't think it is hyperbole to suggest at this point that what the Mets do between right now and Thursday night will go a long way in determining what kind of season we have in Flushing. And that's because you're a fucking idiot. Oh you want the profile to be a negative one? =;) Seriously though I still think I owe you or someone for Sunday.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:05 PM

metirish wrote: ="smg58"]Is Feliciano OK? This is two innings in a row where he should have been brought in. We need to know the answer to this , damn. yes, but so far its unforthcoming. The Phils guys haven't touched on it. Gah! Wright tries to hold up on a high fastball. He don't. He's rung up.

metirish Apr 08 2008 02:05 PM

I'd like to watch the replay of this tonight with a happy feeling, so come fucking on and win this game for fucks sake.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:07 PM

Beltran with his 7th lead leading double.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:07 PM

And the Mets get RickRolled!

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 02:07 PM

smg58 wrote: Is Feliciano OK? This is two innings in a row where he should have been brought in. This is the story, to me. I'm not sure if I'd rather hear that Feliciano is nicked up, or that this is another example of how bullpen management is going to be a huge problem again this year.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:09 PM

whoa--2nd pitch to Delgado is LOW, but called a strike. Maybe low AND outside. Now its a full count. Come on CarlosD....

metirish Apr 08 2008 02:10 PM

Newsday blog......I guess the Mets are good sports or something. ] 4:06 p.m. You got to hand it to deadspin and fark.com. They scored a big one here. In the Mets' online poll to determine what song they're going to play in the eighth inning, the people at those Web sites organized a campaign to write-in Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up." Sure enough, the song won. Give the Mets credit for playing it, too, although the public address announcer essentially explained how they got punked. He told the 56,000 people here they were "Rick-rolled." As the song played, Mets fans booed.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:15 PM

Delagado grounded into the shift, Utley tosses him out, Beltran moves up to third. Clark works a walk. Church can tie this game with one swing of the bat.

seawolf17 Apr 08 2008 02:15 PM

Come on, Ryan Church, hit a three-run home run here so we can hear Rick Astley all season.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:17 PM

Awww crud!

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:18 PM

Schneider, Chavez and Reyes final hope for today.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 02:19 PM

Carlos Muniz is in. He got called up when they put Wise on the DL this morning.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:19 PM

Church dribbles one to second. Even a simple single there and I would have worshiped in his pew. ____________(I dont know what I mean by that^)

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 02:20 PM

I missed this earlier. Why is Easley in at second?

smg58 Apr 08 2008 02:20 PM

Muniz gets out Feliz and now faces Ruiz.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2008 02:21 PM

HahnSolo wrote: I missed this earlier. Why is Easley in at second? Castillo: Right knee soreness.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2008 02:21 PM

Castillo's knee sucks.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 02:22 PM

Castillo's knees started bothering him, so Easley took his place.

smg58 Apr 08 2008 02:23 PM

Muniz goes 1-2-3. At this rate he'll be closing by Thursday.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:25 PM

Left ankle strain for J-Roll. Day to day.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:25 PM

RALLY CAP TIME

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:26 PM

Hey Z, WHERE IS MR. CLEESE?

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:27 PM

Gordon in to close, and from what Ive seen of him so far this season he sucks. So he promptly K's lead off batter Schneider . ugh.

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:28 PM

Z, I want to see John Cleese!

HahnSolo Apr 08 2008 02:29 PM

zI guess we're the only team that can't hit Gordon.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:29 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Hey Z, WHERE IS MR. CLEESE? Mr Cleese is reserved for when something starts, and we both wish it to continue. Hence, the word 'rally' is used in his graphical cameo appearance. I see no rally here. Game OVEH

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:30 PM

Z, Next time when I say I want to see John Cleese slapping on his Met Rally Cap knight helmet thing, I WANT TO SEE JOHN CLEESE SLAPPING ON HIS MET RALLY CAP KNIGHT HELMET THING! =;)

SteveJRogers Apr 08 2008 02:32 PM

Zvon wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Hey Z, WHERE IS MR. CLEESE? Mr Cleese is reserved for when something starts, and we both wish it to continue. Hence, the word 'rally' is used in his graphical cameo appearance. I see no rally here. Game OVEH Ahh your father was a hamster and your mother wears combat boots!

metirish Apr 08 2008 02:32 PM

2 - 4

Fman99 Apr 08 2008 02:33 PM

Fuck.

Zvon Apr 08 2008 02:38 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Zvon"] SteveJRogers wrote: Hey Z, WHERE IS MR. CLEESE? Mr Cleese is reserved for when something starts, and we both wish it to continue. Hence, the word 'rally' is used in his graphical cameo appearance. I see no rally here. Game OVEH Ahh your father was a hamster and your mother wears combat boots! I don't know about your mother but my mother smelt of elderberries. ;)

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 03:10 PM

i had to miss the end of the game, i hate schoenweis.

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 03:21 PM

Don't blame just him. You'd think .316/.382/.574, his 2007 numbers against righties, would maybe suggest to the bench that he shouldn't be in to face 3 in a row. Also, to be fair, Delgado torpedoed a possible double play by hitting Utley in the back.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2008 03:33 PM

yeah he shouldnt be in there except as a lefty specialist. its possible theres no room for that on the roster, and i'd be fine if he were off the roster

TransMonk Apr 08 2008 03:41 PM

I didn't see the game today, but from what I followed on Gamecast, this team looks A LOT like the team that finished up last year again today. Is everyone waiting for everyone to pick everyone up everyday?

Elster88 Apr 08 2008 03:45 PM

Mr. Zero wrote: For the life of me I can't imagine what kind of P.R. meeting would produce the idea: "Let's have a wax figure of David Wright ride the 7 train to Shea". Then again, probably the same type of brainstorming that generated: "Lets have an apple pop out of a top hat whenever a Met hits a home run". I hope I never get that grumpy. Like you wouldn't sit next to the wax dummy and take a picture? Try to enjoy your life.

Elster88 Apr 08 2008 03:52 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="Triple Dee"]Is it just me or does Castillo look like he has a permanent limp? I was half listening to a radio interview with Willie a couple of days ago and he said something about Castillo having one leg shorter than the other. Didn't catch all the details but he's definitely one of those guys who has a different style gait when he's walking as opposed to running. LOL. Bret would have a field day with that one.

Elster88 Apr 08 2008 03:53 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ="Valadius"]What's wrong with Castillo? Why's he out of the game? "Right knee soreness." Are they both his knees? My grandmother had one replaced a few years back and it bothers her from time to time too.

Number 6 Apr 08 2008 03:55 PM

Can she play second?

Gwreck Apr 08 2008 04:11 PM

As Schoeneweis was warming up, my neighbors and I were debating whether it was better to have Smith face a lefty to lead off or to bring in Schoeneweis to force the burning of the PH, but also have to face Rollins and Victorino. We all managed to agree on Smith facing Dobbs to lead off as the better choice, knowing that if Smith didn't get out 1-2-3 then Schoeneweis was available for Utley and Howard. Granted, he should've been out of the inning with only 1 run of damage, but still. Not a good choice. Anyone catch why Rollins left the game? Crowd was not particularly friendly to the Mets. Boos for Sosa, Schoeneweis and Heilman all in the pregame introductions. Several fights -- of the full-throttle punches being thrown variety -- in various levels of the stadium. The overwhelming feeling in the building was that people are still very pissed off about last year.

Elster88 Apr 08 2008 04:13 PM

Heilman getting booed? Fans are morons.

mario25 Apr 08 2008 04:32 PM

I hate our bullpen....Heilman is no stopper in the eighth inning,Schowenweis is terrible, Sosa is bad too....they are not the stoppers you need in a good bullpen....

Elster88 Apr 08 2008 04:38 PM

mario25 wrote: I hate our bullpen.... They hate you too... ]Heilman is no stopper in the eighth inning, What the fuck is a stopper? ]Schowenweis is terrible, Not against lefties. ]Sosa is bad too.... Sosa is average... ]they are not the stoppers you need in a good bullpen.... see above....

metsmarathon Apr 08 2008 05:07 PM

Elster88 wrote: What the fuck is a stopper? someone who never, ever fails. except in meaningless games.

metirish Apr 08 2008 06:02 PM

I'm watching the replay and Kevin Burkhardt is interviewing Governor Patterson asking him of his memories of Shea stadium....I thought he was going to regale us with stories of past trysts in the Shea parking lot with hookers or of scoring dope there but no he told a nice story of his Dad taking him to Shea the night before it opened and asking the guys there if his legally blind son could walk the field, they let him.

mario25 Apr 08 2008 06:48 PM

Relief pitching is a tough job I understand that, but the Mets need some dependable relief and as I have watched the past few years Heilman has had good days but he has given up a ton of huge hits in big situations. I think the pre injury season of Duaner Sanchez was great. I hate to say it (being how much I despise the scumbag Yankees) but the Mets need a Joba Chamberlain 8th inning guy. Sosa is a journeyman pitcher at his best and Heilman will not relish the role cause he wants to start. Schoenweis is ok against lefties and should be a lefty specialist. Everybody loves Heilman but I have seen a ton of bombs given up in big games....

Grote15 Apr 08 2008 06:58 PM

If this team is 22-26 about May remember Willie was not Omar's hire. Can we trade Schnieder, Church, and a bag of balls for LoDuca, Milledge and Manny Acta.. I know its early, but Castillo is shot..

metirish Apr 08 2008 07:03 PM

I like Acta too but why is he the anointed one to get the job at Shea , didn't Minaya hire Randolph?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 07:14 PM

Yes, Minaya definitely hired Randolph.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 08:51 PM

Big games. Gig bames. Ving Rhames.

metirish Apr 08 2008 08:53 PM

Phillies beat the Mets now nine straight, going back to last June.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2008 08:55 PM

I was at the game at Citizens Bank Park that started this Phillie losing streak. It was the final game of a four-game series, and the Mets had won the first three. It was the game where Julio Franco didn't run out a ground ball.

Gwreck Apr 08 2008 09:16 PM

I was there too. That game turned on more than Julio's loafing, however. I recall it was a bad start by Pelfrey.

AG/DC Apr 08 2008 09:16 PM

Yup. All the more reason that Willie should be pulling non-runners left and right. There can't be consequences only for the 25th guy.