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AG/DC
Apr 09 2008 08:36 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2008 08:44 AM

Game isn't until tonight at 7:00, but we need to shake off some rocks. Mike Pelfrey makes his first start, with Kyle Kendrick going for Philly. Kendrick was fifth in Rookie of the Year voting last year and I'd like Pelfrey to establish that he's got the better gun. He's the rising star to catch.



New strategy: try not to hit Utley with stuff. It doesn't seem to be working.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 08:42 AM

Let's try and post better today too. Geez, what a mess things were around here yesterday.

Valadius
Apr 09 2008 08:58 AM

And remember, there's a long season ahead of us. No use giving up now.

soupcan
Apr 09 2008 10:39 AM

Valadius wrote:
And remember, there's a long season ahead of us. No use giving up now.


!

metirish
Apr 09 2008 10:41 AM

Val, while it's not exactly Vince Lombardi that was still inspiring......

GO METS.

soupcan
Apr 09 2008 10:43 AM

STEM OG STEL!

Its my rally cap version.

Farmer Ted
Apr 09 2008 11:10 AM

I looked high and low for the ever-inspiring Air Strip thread by Big Al (from days and forums gone by). If someone can unload that one on the forum today, I'll be foerver indebted.

AG/DC
Apr 09 2008 11:31 AM

http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1674

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 11:38 AM

FROM SHEA TO THE AIRSTRIP: A NIGHT IN HELL
Submitted by: Big Al on September 29,1999 12:47:29 PM

I knew it was a bad sign when my ex called me at work to tell me my boy wouldn't be coming down to the city to go to the game with me. She says he had a math test in the morning and she didn't want him getting home at midnight. I razzed her about that it was only one test, the Mets had their backs against the wall, it would be a good night for him and me, and on and freakin' on and then she just comes out and, blammo, hits me with the whole thing. She doesn't want the boy hanging around with me anymore after what he saw last time in the city, which was this girl who lives downstairs from me flopping on the couch. Also she said I was a drunk and I said doesn't going into N.A. and A.A. count for shit with you? But when I went into the rehab again that just set off all kind of alarm bells with her. She had forgotten that I had a problem I guess and it worried her that the boy would be hanging around with a man always on the verge of heading over a cliff. I said Come on! I haven't touched even a freakin beer in three months. But forget it. My son would not be going to the ballgame with me.

You know I am not like these season ticket holders. I am in a "share" and go to a few ballgames a summer. I thought I was being cagey as hell, back in the winter, when I selected this Sept. 26 Atlanta game as one of my nights as Shea. For the last month or so I'd been staring at the ticket and thinking I was some kind of freakin genius. You and I, we were made for each other! That was my attitude. Even two weeks ago, I thought I was going to be present for the climax of the pennant race. But it turned out a whole hell of a lot different. And not only was creaky old Hershiser on the mound for a game that was just a backs against the wall game instead of a true pennant fight game, but my kid couldn't go with me... and my new boss at this new freakin place where I have been on my "best freakin behavior" for two months was holding me back, keeping me at work until almost 8 freakin o'clock.

Christ, I hit the N and took it to Queensborough Plaza, switched to the 7 train there. Read that free paper, New York Press, on the way. That rag always depresses me. I was also listening to the game on the FAN. Down 5 nothing. Didn't bother me. I thought, "I will be there when we make our comeback." I had almost that same thought one Sunday night earlier this summer when I was helping the junkie girl through a bad time, and the Mets were down 5 zip to the Phils in the 8th and I nearly turned the radio off but something told me NO and we rocked Schilling for 5 runs in the ninth. What a ballgame that was. But that's a long freakin time ago now.

Anyways, there was Shea. First thing I tell myself is, "I will not get a beer tonight. I will not get a beer." Because that could start the whole slide all over again. A losing streak of my own.

I go in gate B with my two tickets and right away hit the Italian sausage cart. The line was long and I swear the guy was makin us wait for no good reason. You always see a lot of funny guys at Shea, guys who really make you laugh, and the guy in front of the sausage line was watching the guy turn over the onions and green peppers with his spatula and searing the meat until it had black stripes on both sides, and the guy was saying, he said, "I'm gettin' delirious here! I'm having a hallucination, I'm so hungry. Finish cooking it already!" But the cook kept taking his damn time. I guess that was the one power the cook had over other people, making them wait for their freakin sausage, and he was going to take every advantage of it that he could. I do the same kind of bastardish things at my job, too, I guess. Because who wants to be a freakin worker, an employee, a cog? Nobody. We were all kids once. Nobody aspired to be middle management or to stand at a hot sausage cart. Christ. So I said to myself, "Christ. This world is fucked up, get me a beer." And I paid the freakin $5.50 for a 16 ounce can of Bud poured agonizingly slowly into a cup.

Got to my seat. I saw Weissman seated a few rows ahead of me and to the left. I wished my life were simple like Weissman's. Belief in God. Belief in a team. No alimony payments. No woes beyond what Valentine did or did not do.

The girl sitting right in front of me was just a peach. Man, she looked like a young Stockard Channing. I always liked Stockard Channing. I have a thing for her. My wife used to say, my ex wife, I mean, used to say, "What do you see in her? She looks like a puppy dog! With you it's her and Swoozie what's her name. Why can't you be normal and like Christy Brinkley and those kinds of girls," and I would say, "Stockard and Swoozie just kind of do it for me, what can I say?" She secretly liked it, that I wasn't into the supermodel types.

I quaffed down the beer. God it tasted good. It felt good too. I immediately kept my ear open for the beer man but now they got those bonehead waiters by the field and the beer man never comes.

This Stockard Channing girl was damn smart and she knew it. Her boyfriend was a bonehead. He says to the other guy they were with, "She was a classics major. Do you even know what a classics major is?" And the guy goes, "Sure, Roman and Greek." As the girl starts talking about studying at Oxford and tra la la la di da, I did something I don't usually do. I started just winking at her blatantly and smiling and making goofy faces. Her boyfriend couldn't see me. He was directly in front of me. She was to the side. She smiled at me and gleamed up her eye for me and met my
eye a couple time. God she was great.

On the field the Mets were in hell. Cook couldn't get it over the plate. I felt funny from the beer and guilty. When Cook came out of the game and started giving it to the umpire, a weird thing happened to me. I started feeling all jittery. I was WITH Cook. You know what I mean? I know what it's like to be squeezed by an ump and it's freakin frustrating. I thought of all the calls I didn't get, maybe, and I stood and clapped like hell with everybody else. When Cook started covering the outer half of
the plate with dirt, I tried to shout something, but my voice caught and I realized I was crying. Not like blubbering, but really tearing up and they were running down my face. I told myself this was not good. But I was really so touched by Cook and his frustration and the whole damn losing streak and my son not being there and paying that freakin much for the tickets and getting to the game late and the beer and the pretty girl it just sprung out of my eyes or something and I thought it was very
beautiful, what Cook was doing on the field, and sad, too. And even as I was crying a little I wanted to kill the ump, too, and I mean really kill him. Chase him with torches through Queens.

The Stockard Channing girl turned around to me. "Are you all right?" "Yeah, yeah," I go. "It's just... boy they were squeezing Cookie out there." She goes, like, "Whatever." Probably didn't know what "squeezing" or "Cookie" meant. I wiped my face. She still had the gleam. The boyfriend, a handsome soft guy, turns around and gives me the fish eye. "What are you looking at?" I go. He does the classic, "You two know each other?" I go, "Not yet." That was all. He didn't want a piece of Big Al.

The bottom of the eighth inning was one of those beautiful baseball moments. The fans really got up and cheered, even before Henderson's single. It was loud, World Series loud, and everyone was following the counts and it was great. But then Piazza hit the ground out and Alfonzo had that soft, soft fly ball his second terrible swing of the night. I've never seen his swing the bat with such lack of authority. He is messed up right now. Either hitting sixth does not suit him anymore or he is in a
radical slump and needs a night on the bench.

All the "good" people filed out after that, including the Stockard Channing girl, who would not look at me now, after my little altercation with her beauty boy, and it was only the rabble left. I went behind home plate because I thought I saw an old friend of mine there, but it was someone else. A guy was wearing a Yankee jacket and a funny guy started giving him the business from a few rows away. "Yankees suck dick!" the guy shouted. The usher told him to can the profanity. And the guy said, "I
said a bad thing. I'm sorry." Then he said things that were almost profane but not quite after that. Another guy started yelling at Rickey in the on deck circle. "You're old, Rickey! You can't do it anymore. Hall of Famers don't run, right, Rickey? Hall of Famers don't run!" Rickey shook his head and smiled. It got uglier thought when another heckler called him "boy." I wanted to kill that guy. That guy would have been cheering RIckey like crazy if things were going better, so why the "boy" crap? Why bring this racial shit into it? Man. Even in the field seats, the Mets fans can get freakin ugly. I mean, I will boo and yell, but not like that.

After the ragged ninth inning, everybody left, but I noticed these two hot girls sitting with some guy. I mean, these women were incredible, one in tight leather pants with humongous cha chas under a tight sweater. "What's going on here?" I said to myself and waited for them to leave their seats. I followed them into the parking lot, and I was right. These were not usual fans. They were strippers from this place called the Airstrip and outside they and some other girls started passing out fliers to people. I took one. Christ.

I got in a cab with some drunk fellows, Wall Street guys, who were going to check the place out. We got there and it was... you know. It's in the zone where you can legally have a strip club in New York. A "waitress" asked me what I wanted. I said Scotch, God help me.

You know when Chris Rock does that routine, something about the girls don't do it in the Champagne room? Well, they do it, friends, they do it.
I left there at about 5 A.M., much poorer both financially and spiritually. I was drunk, too, and couldn't find a cab. I walked out to the water. There was trash in it. What a losing streak. What a night. I had for some reason a pack of cigarettes in my pocket. I smoked one there. A guy was waking up by the dock. The planes started coming in from Europe overhead. The dirty seagulls and pigeons were battling it out as usual. I started walking until eventually I found the Jackson Heights subway stop and rode the 7 back to Manhattan. I stopped by my place for a shave and shower, slugged down a hell of a lot of coffee, went to work. And here I am at my desk, still looped a little bit, and the boss has been giving me kind of a cold look. I must look the way I feel. Hungover. This far from being a bum. But if that guy could have seen me when I was 17, 18, when my arm was at full strength, and you had the scouts and everything... ahh, Christ, what's the use. What's the use?

Farmer Ted
Apr 09 2008 11:45 AM

yous guys are the best.

soupcan
Apr 09 2008 12:06 PM

Wow that's great.

I'm not sure its inspiring, but okay.

OlerudOwned
Apr 09 2008 02:02 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Let's try and post better today too. Geez, what a mess things were around here yesterday.

Sorry, not with playoff hockey on tonight.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 09 2008 02:07 PM

Hockey playoffs have started already?

Don't they run until June?

seawolf17
Apr 09 2008 02:16 PM

Hockey season started?

metirish
Apr 09 2008 02:20 PM

That was a brilliant read, never saw that before, at the sausage cart is hilarious.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 02:34 PM

Hopefully Big Al is enjoying his 8th year of sobriety and putting the finishing touches on his book, Valentine's Magical Thinking.

Frayed Knot
Apr 09 2008 02:34 PM

="Benjamin Grimm"]Hockey playoffs have started already?
Don't they run until June?


And that's just the first round.


]That was a brilliant read, never saw that before, at the sausage cart is hilarious


For those not around at the time (and that was nearly NINE years and about four boards ago now) 'Big Al' was an occasional poster whose backstory (or at least the one he was using) was that of a once-promising LHP who washed out in the minors at some point due to both arm problems and a rebellious streak which eventually led to his life as a heavy-drinking, divorced Met fan with a bit of a mean streak. He didn't post often but threw up some great shit worthy of pulp-fiction novels when he did. That one was definitely a high-light.

metsmarathon
Apr 09 2008 02:40 PM

jeez... '99... i think i had barely begun to consistently lurk at that point.

sharpie
Apr 09 2008 02:46 PM

Pre-dates me. Great stuff.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:14 PM

Nice start by Pelfrey as he Ks Victorino to start it off.

Phils will be without the services of Jimmy Rollins who hurt his ankle sliding back into second yesterday on a pickoff attempt. J-Roll says he does not have 100% lateral movement.

1-2-3 inning for Pelfrey.
Nice.

Frayed Knot
Apr 09 2008 05:15 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2008 05:15 PM

Back to the IGT,

Phils lead off with Victorino & Bruntlett with Rollins getting the day off (ankle)

Pelfrey goes 1-2-3 in the first and didn't even plunk Utley

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 09 2008 05:15 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the Mets have now now gone seven straight games without wearing their black uniforms? Must be some record-breaking streak. I'm sorta new to the CPF so I don't know what the general mood is here concerning those unis - but I'll go on the record and write that to me, the black Mets shirts are an absolute embarrasment . I never imagined that a team's uniforms could diminish my ability to enjoy a game but yeah, that's what those hideous shirts do for me.

Frayed Knot
Apr 09 2008 05:17 PM

The general, though not universal, sentiment around here tends towards anti-black.



Pagan in the #2 hole with Castillo on the bench (knee)

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:20 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that the Mets have now now gone seven straight games without wearing their black uniforms? Must be some record-breaking streak. I'm sorta new to the CPF so I don't know what the general mood is here concerning those unis - but I'll go on the record and write that to me, the black Mets shirts are an absolute embarrasment . I never imagined that a team's uniforms could diminish my ability to enjoy a game but yeah, that's what those hideous shirts do for me.

lol. You have supporters here.

Id like to know where my fav pinstriped blue hat look has gone.


Reyes works a walk and Pagan, batting 2nd tonight, hits one back to Kendrick, who flubs it but makes the play for the out at 1st.

Wright up, reyes at 2nd.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 05:20 PM

="batmagadanleadoff"]Has anyone else noticed that the Mets have now now gone seven straight games without wearing their black uniforms? Must be some record-breaking streak. I'm sorta new to the CPF so I don't know what the general mood is here concerning those unis - but I'll go on the record and write that to me, the black Mets shirts are an absolute embarrasment . I never imagined that a team's uniforms could diminish my ability to enjoy a game but yeah, that's what those hideous shirts do for me.


Yeah it is a hated thing in these parts. The team just jumped on the latest trend that seems everyone has done, and it has looked awful for just about all of their now 10 years of wearing those things.

There have been rumblings that they were planning on dialing it down, so while the black with blue brim caps are still the official road cap and occasional home cap, it has seemed the black is close to being ditched.

Heh, shades of '06!

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 05:21 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2008 05:33 PM

Never mind, got the info.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:22 PM

Wright hits it thru Utley and Reyes dashes in from 2nd.

1-0

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 05:25 PM

Oh no, Everybody Clap Your Hands is back!

UGH!

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:29 PM

Wrights smash thru Utley, 1st called a hit, changed to an error.

And Kendrick walks Delgado and Church.

Bases all juiced up for Easley.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:32 PM

Easley grounds out up the middle to short, a chopper that was played nicely by SS Eric Bruntlett.

Frayed Knot
Apr 09 2008 05:40 PM

Pelfrey's getting grounders ... just not any luck.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:44 PM

Reyes with an awful flub there. Just awful.
You could see he didn't have control of the ball and tried to push it to second for the force. Routine DP ball, and it could not have been an easier play.
Phils tie it.

It could have been way worse tho.
1-1, Mets

OlerudOwned
Apr 09 2008 05:46 PM

Mets get my hopes up with the blue caps in press photos, only to let me down with the road caps at home.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:52 PM

Kendrick is not gonna last long. Already up to 41 pitches.

has walked 4.

Add: 5

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:57 PM

Umps are not giving Kendrick the borderline pitches.
Gotta like that.
And he walks Wright to load em.

OlerudOwned
Apr 09 2008 05:57 PM

Six. If we can't win this game I might cry.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 05:58 PM

Two out, bases loaded,and the Mets have to come away with something this inning.

Beltran.....

OlerudOwned
Apr 09 2008 06:00 PM

Blehhh, good thing the 2nd period is starting in Newark.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:00 PM

Ugh, CarlosB grounds out weakly to 2nd.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 06:15 PM

Way to break through, Easley. Keep it up.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:17 PM

Delgado doubles, Church singles him to 3rd, and Easley drives CarlosD in with his 1st hit of the year.

2-1 Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 06:24 PM

More more more more

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:24 PM

Wow.
Pelfrey drops a 2 strike bunt and Phils catcher Ruiz goes for Church at 3rd and makes a bad throw. All safe.

One replay it looks like the ball hit Pelfrey after it bounced, the other 2 it does not look like it touched him at all.

Reyes hits a DP grounder and SS Bruntlett flubs it. No play, run scores.

And Pagan drives in 2 with a double down the 3rd baseline.

And Kendrick is dun.

metirish
Apr 09 2008 06:24 PM

Hey the sky is not falling after all....

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:29 PM

metirish wrote:
Hey the sky is not falling after all....


Its falling on the Phils,lol.
How big is Rollins being out now?
Bruntlett with another error off a grounder in the hole off Mr. Wright.
Easy slow hit grounder just bounces under his glove.

6-1 Mets

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:30 PM

A wild pitch plates another.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 09 2008 06:34 PM

Phillies are playing like the Mets play when they play the Phillies.

I like this Bruntlett guy. I hope he plays tomorrow.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 06:36 PM

Delgado RIIIIPPED one to right.
Jenkins makes a lunging catch for the out.

Church Ks and its 7-1 Mets after 3.

4 errors by the Phils.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 06:45 PM

Very late but, ehem,

THATS THE WAY
UH HUH UH HUH
I LIKE IT!
Ooooo oooooo ooooo ooooooo oooooooooooooo!

metirish
Apr 09 2008 06:56 PM

you know , ahh listen , you know we have very passionate fans you know...

metirish
Apr 09 2008 07:02 PM

It's at times like this when Minaya is in the booth I wish we had a lights out SO pitcher on the mound .

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:05 PM

MetIrish, channeling SalaIraBretDoc!

Pelf, showing why he is among Mets featured in the Citi Field diaorama on the Loge Level outside the Preview Center!

Nymr83
Apr 09 2008 07:15 PM

Why only 5 for Pelfrey??

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:16 PM

Hit 100 on the pitch count.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:18 PM

[Warner Wolf]COME ON! You gotta be kidding me! Thats the boo of the week. You mean after a month of spring training, these guys who are stronger than ever, bigger than ever, can't go the full nine and throw for 150+ pitches? Here is what Bob Gibson and Bob Feller told me at some function in 1985 when I asked them to give me a 20 second soundbyte...[/Warner Wolf]

I think Warner Wolf (1050 Saturday mornings 7am to 10am and "updates" from 7-10 weekdays) is the last NYC media guy left on the "pitch count, most OVERATED baseball stat" side and he annoyed me off this morning talking about Perez yesterday, despite Perez being in midst of a meltdown.

Wolf should have knocked the Mets for who they put in, not that they took Perez out!

Whats even more hilarious is when he uses soundbites from his interviews with Gibson and Feller as "proof" that pitch counts are meaningless, rather than actual research on the subject matter, which shouldn't be hard to find. I swear Wolf actually sounds worse than callers to his station!

Nymr83
Apr 09 2008 07:25 PM

Perez should have been pulled yesterday because he walked two straight batters AND was over X pitches, neither alone should be a sufficient condition to end a starter's outing.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:36 PM

Either the Mets are trying to get this game over with quick, or Durbin is that good.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 07:39 PM

Phils talking heads also question Pelfrey's removal, but figure its his first outing and he's still stretching out after spring training, and think the Mets more than likely want to make sure he leaves the game on the up side.

The Manderson bats for Sosa, who
delivered a very nice relief stint.

Valadius
Apr 09 2008 07:40 PM

I'm late arriving to this thing. Looks like Pelfrey held the fort, huh?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 09 2008 07:41 PM

Victorino is pretty awesome out there. That's about as well as Marlon Anderson is gonna hit somethiong to LCF: A double vs. almost any CF in the league I would think.

I'd be somewhat dissatisfied if we can't tack on a few just for show.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:44 PM

Valadius wrote:
I'm late arriving to this thing. Looks like Pelfrey held the fort, huh?


Yeah he was doing quite well out there but laboring several times. The Mets didn't help him much by leaving the bases full the first couple of innings though.

*62
Apr 09 2008 07:46 PM

Valadius wrote:
I'm late arriving to this thing. Looks like Pelfrey held the fort, huh?

It wasn't all that. He was Leiter-esque. 100 pitches through 5.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 07:48 PM

Mets picked up the 8th run thanks to Schneider playing hard to get on the DP (made Utley throw to 1st by avoiding tag) and Easley running hard all the way from 2nd during the play.
He just crossed the plate before Howard applied the 2nd out tag on Schneider.

No RBI for Reyes on the play.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2008 07:49 PM

Feliciano returns to K Ryan Howard for the second out, and here is "Met Killer" Pat Burrell

Rockin' Doc
Apr 09 2008 07:52 PM

Zvon -"Mets picked up the 8th run thanks to Schneider playing hard to get on the DP (made Utley throw to 1st by avoiding tag) and Easley running hard all the way from 2nd during the play.
He just crossed the plate before Howard applied the 2nd out tag on Schneider. "


Nice job of baserunning by Schneider to give Easley the opportunity to score, but Easley only had to run in from third since he had tagged up and advanced to third on Marlon Anderson's fly out in the LCF gap.

metirish
Apr 09 2008 08:06 PM

Should be a win but only five hits all night.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 08:07 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote:
Zvon -"Mets picked up the 8th run thanks to Schneider playing hard to get on the DP (made Utley throw to 1st by avoiding tag) and Easley running hard all the way from 2nd during the play.
He just crossed the plate before Howard applied the 2nd out tag on Schneider. "


Nice job of baserunning by Schneider to give Easley the opportunity to score, but Easley only had to run in from third since he had tagged up and advanced to third on Marlon Anderson's fly out in the LCF gap.


Thanks, sorry.
Then he should have scored twice.
;)

That was kinda bang bang and I wasn't sure.
I was not paying total attention to the game at the time.
Even tried to check the play by play on CBS sportsline to confirm that, but it seems they have removed the link.

Nymr83
Apr 09 2008 08:14 PM

feels good to be back in the W column.

Zvon
Apr 09 2008 08:19 PM

put it in the

Fman99
Apr 09 2008 08:35 PM

Much better. Pelfrey did a yeoman's job tonight and the Phillies soccer-style defense helped.

holychicken
Apr 09 2008 08:36 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
Perez should have been pulled yesterday because he walked two straight batters AND was over X pitches, neither alone should be a sufficient condition to end a starter's outing.

TBH, he started to look a little shaky right towards the end there. I have to agree that they wanted to get him out on a high note and I actually agreed with the call.

Number 6
Apr 09 2008 08:59 PM

The nice two innings from Sosa were a highlight tonight.

Frayed Knot
Apr 09 2008 09:03 PM

The problem wasn't just the 100 pitches (plus the shitty weather, plus the long layoff) but it was that he used ~50 pitches over the first 3 innings (slightly high) but then 50 more just for the last two.

So considering that, plus the big lead and a few pen guys who could stand to get a good inning or two under their belts, pulling Pelf then wasn't a bad move.

Nymr83
Apr 09 2008 09:08 PM

I'm suprised we didn't see Wagner in the 9th tonight. its been 7 days hasn't it? its always hard to find that balance between overuse and keeping your top relievers sharp. give a guy a random inning and suddenly you'll need him the next 3 nights, give him a day off and you won't need him for the week, theres never a right answer but personally i use the 7th day as the "he's pitching today" day.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 10 2008 08:09 AM
Re: Rant!

Triple Dee wrote:

Isn't the black jersey the second-best selling after the Pinstripes? If so, no chance they'll be ditched.


What do you mean by "pinstripes"; Mets pinstripes? Yankees Pinstripes? Soemthing else?

AG/DC
Apr 10 2008 09:36 AM

Philly Phan-Panic: http://mvn.com/mlb-phillies/2008/04/10/8-2eric-bruntlett-sucks-other-short-stories/

Can we forever call this the Eric Bruntlett game?

Valadius
Apr 10 2008 02:32 PM

That or the Soccer Game.