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soupcan Apr 10 2008 08:19 AM

Sorry - I looked for an already existing 'CitiField' thread but couldn't find it. I was fairly sure we had one. Anyhoo - Opening Day was great but I gotta tell ya that stadium out there is quite intrusive. From my brother-in-law's seats this is now the view. It feels like Shea is an enclosed stadium. It's really unsettling. You're used to going to see a game at Shea and seeing sky and open space out there. Now there's just this big honkin' wall. I'm sure we'll all get used to it in a few weeks but wow- when I first walked into the place it just hit me in the face.

Farmer Ted Apr 10 2008 08:20 AM

I want your Brother-in-law's seats. I want to be your Brother-in-law. I want to marry your Brother-in-law (my wife may actually approve that offer, too, for those seats).

soupcan Apr 10 2008 08:25 AM

Why do you think I married my wife in the first place?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2008 08:25 AM

I think it looks good out there. Makes Shea look like the urban stadium that it never really was.

soupcan Apr 10 2008 08:32 AM

Good, bad, whatever. Its just shockingly different.

AG/DC Apr 10 2008 08:32 AM

It's visually confusing, though, not looking into the horizon and seeing that U-Haul Sign. If a truck is burning in the parking lot, how are you going to know?

soupcan Apr 10 2008 08:34 AM

Is what I'm trying to say.

Triple Dee Apr 10 2008 09:28 AM

Will all the seats in Citi Field be green? Please say it ain't so.

metirish Apr 10 2008 09:42 AM

A few home runs have died out there because of the super structure , Easley for one is certain he hit a homer the other night , it does take getting used to , I like it. It was cool seeing all the construction guys watching opening day from the new stadium.

Kong76 Apr 10 2008 09:43 AM

I was in the last row of the bleachers under the A in Sharp and took a few pictures of that monstrosity too from there. Just haven't had a lot of forum time last couple of days to post 'em. It's just like BAM in your face with no open space left. I agree, it's an odd feeling.

seawolf17 Apr 10 2008 09:45 AM

Triple Dee wrote: Will all the seats in Citi Field be green? I want to make this into some sort of money joke about jacked-up ticket prices, but I can't do it.

metirish Apr 10 2008 09:48 AM

seawolf17 wrote: ="Triple Dee"]Will all the seats in Citi Field be green? I want to make this into some sort of money joke about jacked-up ticket prices, but I can't do it. Way to kill it for the rest of us.........:)

soupcan Apr 10 2008 09:49 AM

metirish wrote: A few home runs have died out there because of the super structure , Easley for one is certain he hit a homer the other night , it does take getting used to , I like it. Why would that be? I'm no meteorologist but I would think it would help homeruns not hinder them. It seems that the structure would stop wind blowing into the stadium not out of it. What do you like about it?

metirish Apr 10 2008 09:53 AM

soupcan wrote: ="metirish"]A few home runs have died out there because of the super structure , Easley for one is certain he hit a homer the other night , it does take getting used to , I like it. Why would that be? I'm no meteorologist but I would think it would help homeruns not hinder them. It seems that the structure would stop wind blowing into the stadium not out of it. What do you like about it? Apparently the wind currents in Shea now are all over the place, which is no different than before is what I think , Gary claims that the structure in LF at least is so close to Shea that it's like being in Manhattan.... What I like about it is what Grimm said..... ]I think it looks good out there. Makes Shea look like the urban stadium that it never really was.

Triple Dee Apr 10 2008 09:54 AM

soupcan wrote: Why would that be? I'm no meteorologist but I would think it would help homeruns not hinder them. It seems that the structure would stop wind blowing into the stadium not out of it. Gary mentioned on the broadcast that it's a phenomenon of the wind in April at Shea that kills home runs. I don't recall anything said about Citi Field being responsible.

SteveJRogers Apr 10 2008 10:03 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think it looks good out there. Makes Shea look like the urban stadium that it never really was. I think the chop shops do a pretty good job with that though! Not to mention across the Whitestone you are right in the middle of Corona, Bayside, and Jackson Heights (there's a hold up in the Bronx...sorry can't resist), and of course just down Roosevelt Ave and Northern Blvd. is downtown Flushing. So while Shea was meant to be part of some rural Robert Moses planned sprawl, it is minutes away from urban communities.

Farmer Ted Apr 10 2008 10:03 AM

Chief meterologist Joe Morgan on the ESPN broadcast last night said that a wind sheer occurs between the new stadium and Shea, knocking balls down. Huh?

seawolf17 Apr 10 2008 10:06 AM

Let's not get too excited about what Joe Morgan has to say. I think I trust StevieJeets' analysis more.

soupcan Apr 10 2008 10:24 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: Not to mention across the Whitestone you are right in the middle of Corona, Bayside, and Jackson Heights (there's a hold up in the Bronx...sorry can't resist), and of course just down Roosevelt Ave and Northern Blvd. is downtown Flushing. Um, across the Whitestone is the Bronx.

AG/DC Apr 10 2008 10:42 AM

I think Esteban Rogers must mean the Whitestone Expressway and not the Whitestone Bridge.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2008 10:59 AM

Yeah, but you can't see any of that stuff from your seat at Shea, unless you're sitting way up high, and in that case, it's far in the distance. I still don't know what they're going to build in the area around Citi Field after Shea is gone, but hopefully you'll be able to see some outside urban architecture from within the ballpark. Real, pre-existing buildings would be better, but there just aren't any. (I love what they did with that old building in San Diego's stadium.)

soupcan Apr 10 2008 11:20 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: (I love what they did with that old building in San Diego's stadium.) I took a tour of Petco a year or so back. They told us that that because of how the building codes are in San Diego, that the stadium is officially classified and listed as an addition to that building (Western Metal Supply I think is the name on it) as opposed to the stadium being classified as it's own separate structure or the building being incorporated into the stadium. Pretty cool, no?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2008 11:22 AM

Yes, it is. What would have been even cooler would have been to keep the structure's original name. "Come see the Padres take on the visiting Giants tonight at the Western Metal Supply Building!"

soupcan Apr 10 2008 11:35 AM

I guess Western Metal Supply couldn't come up with upwards of $20 million per.

Frayed Knot Apr 10 2008 11:36 AM

="Benjamin Grimm"]I still don't know what they're going to build in the area around Citi Field after Shea is gone, but hopefully you'll be able to see some outside urban architecture from within the ballpark. Real, pre-existing buildings would be better, but there just aren't any. (I love what they did with that old building in San Diego's stadium.) I don't see how you'll see much of anything from inside except maybe from higher levels. First of all it'll be completely enclosed without Shea's open-gapped OF. And while those OF seats, scoreboard, advertising and such won't be as high as the back end of CitiField is now to Shea, I still doubt the field-level folks will be able to see out. Upper deckers might get a view out, but the new joint is to face more towards the north than the current ENE which means essentially towards Flushing Bay, or, more accurately, the highway ramps between the stadium and Flushing Bay. Which might make for a good view for some but it's probably not going to involve any architecture other than what can be done with a paving truck. Most buildings, including whatever replaces the 'iron triangle' area, are to the west and away from the seats. As far as the wind issue goes, it's all speculatiion at this point. The numbers say that Shea has traditionally been very tough on RH power while slightly helping HRs towards RF. The theory being that the winds - particularly in early season and other bad weather days - come in from the N & NE directly into the open end and knock HRs down. Except that the scoreboard tends to block those coming in from RCF while those coming in unblocked from LCF swirl around the bowl before going out towrds RF. So theoretically, CitiField is now there to block virtually eveything and make it a better HR park in '08 than we're used to seeing. Whether that's actually going to happen or not or whether two games prove that it's not the case is still all just conjecture.

metsmarathon Apr 10 2008 11:47 AM

i would expect it to funnel winds even stronger along the east face of citi and into left field, swirl around a bit inside, and exit out right field. the end result being more balls to left field knocked down, perhaps some adventures in center, and something of a tailwind going out to right.

AG/DC Apr 10 2008 01:10 PM

Looks like a pretty harrowing encroachment from space:

soupcan Apr 10 2008 02:00 PM

FYI -

AG/DC Apr 10 2008 02:03 PM

I'm dropping that much money, it should be to buy, not to rent. I'd damn well sleep in the thing.

metirish Apr 10 2008 02:04 PM

The only time I'll be seeing those , no wonder they can cut back on the number of seats with the price they are charging for the suites.

Farmer Ted Apr 10 2008 02:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 11 2008 07:22 AM

The $275K is for the suite. Food and beverages much more. Doesn't look like there's a pisser in that suite. What, no privacy in the private suite?

soupcan Apr 10 2008 02:11 PM

AG/DC wrote: I'm dropping that much money, it should be to buy, not to rent. I'd damn well sleep in the thing. Now how cool would that be? Having an apartment inside the stadium?

Valadius Apr 10 2008 02:18 PM

Don't they have that in Toronto?

vtmet Apr 10 2008 03:16 PM

="soupcan"] ="metirish"]A few home runs have died out there because of the super structure , Easley for one is certain he hit a homer the other night , it does take getting used to , I like it. Why would that be? I'm no meteorologist but I would think it would help homeruns not hinder them. It seems that the structure would stop wind blowing into the stadium not out of it. What do you like about it? I would agree with you when it is warm...but there could also be some sort of Venturi Effect or wind tunnel that creates an overpowering counter wind that repels the ball from traveling across it... I've got a house that has a garage just a few feet from it...when it was built, the wind probably had a "normal" wind pattern...however, someone decide to put an addition on the house right in front of the garage so that there is a very small path between the 3 structures (the garage, the original shape of the house and the protruding extension)...The result is this intense tornado-like swirling wind in this little area whenever there is a northernly breeze, in which every leaf in the neighborhood seems to get trapped in this blackhole of space... and yes, I probably totally misused the Venturi Effect, but IMO, there is a possibility that the very small walkway between the 2 stadiums could create a counter wind that might either repel the ball or act like a vacuum to suck the ball into it....Realistically I think that when it gets warm out, the ball is going to travel much nicer to left and left-center field in Shea than it ever has...

Kong76 Apr 10 2008 05:52 PM

Well my picture is kinda dull compared to this new added content lol

seawolf17 Apr 10 2008 06:44 PM

$275,000 2009 $280,500.00 2010 $286,110.00 2011 $291,832.20 2012 $297,668.84 2013 $303,622.22 2014 $309,694.67 2015 $315,888.56 2016 $322,206.33 2017 $328,650.46 2018 $3,011,173 Ah, if only I had an extra three million dollars lying around.

soupcan Jun 05 2008 07:53 AM

I'm enjoying the photos that peeps are posting all over the 'net of the construction progress of the stadia being erected in the City these days. I think ShittyField is lookeen' good mang. But I must say that the New Skankee Stadium is also pretty impressive. I think they did a good job wth the design up there in the Boogie Down. Lots of photos here: [url]http://www.stadiumpage.com/[/url]

Willets Point Jun 05 2008 09:54 AM

I agree, they both look sharp, although Yankee Stadium III looks like a bank. In many ways that's apropos.

Vic Sage Jun 05 2008 10:01 AM

The gray monolithic monument-type design of the new Yankee Stadium recalls the Nuremburg rallies. A sort of art deco-fascist motif. Its the sort of place you could imagine hosting a great big book burning. Whatever one may think of the faux nostalgia of the new CitiField, at least it doesn't make one feel like goose stepping.

Willets Point Jun 05 2008 10:03 AM

That's true, especially those carved eagles flanking "YANKEE STADIUM."

SteveJRogers Jun 05 2008 11:05 AM

Very true, all three versions of YS have had the feel of some grand monolithic buildings. Looking at them this song tends to play in my head I IIRC was the first actual modern "Stadium" so it made sense that it took a monolithic design. II I believe was meant to "update" the feel of the old place with the style of the cookie cutters of the day. Course this is the result:

metirish Jun 05 2008 11:11 AM

Another view of the new yankee stadium.

SteveJRogers Jun 05 2008 11:37 AM

This though, does have the look of a ball park!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 05 2008 12:09 PM

Kudos, Steve and Irish. Of course, looking at the new Yankee Stadium, makes me wonder. If they liked the old place so much, why did they tear it down in the first place back in '73?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2008 12:13 PM

They didn't "tear it down!" They "refurbished" it. Just a few splashes of paint and some new light bulbs. That was about all they did.

holychicken Jun 05 2008 12:25 PM

Vic Sage wrote: CitiField, at least it doesn't make one feel like goose stepping. LOL. I think we have found the Citifield's motto.

soupcan Jul 11 2008 06:38 AM

Thought these were cool...

metirish Jul 11 2008 07:05 AM

Nice pictures , the lat one is especially great.I wonder who those two guys are.

Fman99 Jul 11 2008 07:09 AM

="soupcan"]Thought these were cool... I love this one. If I remember correctly, they still had the rectangles up when I attended my first game in '77 (age 4).

soupcan Jul 11 2008 07:15 AM

When I see the rectangles I think of The Jets.

AG/DC Jul 11 2008 07:27 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 25 2008 12:55 PM

The tiles were there until the very early eighties. We had read that they were mislaid during renovation, though I couldn't paossibly tell you the source. It was probably just a traditional belief among my friends, hoping we'd one day peer into an abandoned construction site or broken warehouse window in northern Queens and see our beloved tiles. Missus Edgy is house shopping as we speak and doesn't know this, but wherever we live, I'm adorning the front of the house with high-tension cables supporting suspended blue and orange tiles.

G-Fafif Jul 11 2008 12:52 PM

soupcan wrote: Thought these were cool... You thought right!

metsguyinmichigan Jul 11 2008 12:56 PM

Heck yeah! The infield shot looks like it's still missing some seats -- and the dugouts -- and that sod looks like it was installed five minutes ago. I bet that was late March, early April 1964. One of the reasons I feel connected to Shea was that I was born April 3 of that year, about 10 days before the first game. So when people call Shea old and dumpy, I take offense! Awesome, awesome photos.

soupcan Aug 25 2008 12:50 PM

In case you thought they may change their minds about the name of the place. [url=http://www.stadiumpage.com/]Sign's up.[/url]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 25 2008 12:56 PM

It's my understanding the brass is already moving into their plush offices in the new bldg.

soupcan Aug 29 2008 08:48 AM

Not Citifield but a pretty cool thing..[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/08/newyork.yankees/]Sports Illustrated photo technology[/url]