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IGT, Game 12, vs. DC: You CAN Have It All

AG/DC
Apr 15 2008 09:20 AM



Sorry, I've let other starters initiate the thread on the last two games, and allowed the MoJo to grow soiled and noxious.

Tonight we take on the Washington Nationals, trying to turn things around, having opened the season with a three-game sweep before losing nine in a row, then holding on for a 5-4 win over the Braves on Sunday.

We have Pelfrey, looking good his last time out. They've got Odalis Perez, who hasn't looked good much since 2002.

You can't tell the players without a scorecard, and, even then, it's kind of hard when everybody wears 42.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2008 09:24 AM

Wow! I had forgotten all about Purulator Courier.

And it's been many many years since I last heard the voice of Steve Zabriskie.

Centerfield
Apr 15 2008 11:29 AM

Wait, you were on a win streak and let someone else start the IGT?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2008 11:31 AM

You get the pitchforks, I'll get the torches.

Or is it my turn to do pitchforks?

Valadius
Apr 15 2008 11:43 AM

Edgy wasn't around to start the IGTs.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2008 11:45 AM
Re: IGT, Game 12, vs. DC: You CAN Have It All

AG/DC wrote:
You can't tell the players without a scorecard, and, even then, it's kind of hard when everybody wears 42.


I think they do this just to mess with MBTN.

Gwreck
Apr 15 2008 02:44 PM

From [url=http://blogs.nydailynews.com/mets]Adam Rubin's Blog:[/url]

Reyes batting leadoff
Church batting second
Castillo batting eighth

Duaner activated off the DL (Muniz to AAA)

LoDuca not starting tonight for the Nationals (was hit in the hand with a pitch on Sunday).

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2008 02:49 PM

Gwreck wrote:

Church batting second
Castillo batting eighth


I like this.

AG/DC
Apr 15 2008 03:01 PM

Me so right.

HahnSolo
Apr 15 2008 03:23 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
="Gwreck"]
Church batting second
Castillo batting eighth


I like this.


I'd like it even more if Castillo was batting 8th...for New Orleans.

bmfc1
Apr 15 2008 04:05 PM

He's still honest:
PLD in The Washington Post National's Blog:

Lo Duca said he isn't exactly rooting for the Mets. "I want them to lose every game," he said. "That's nature."

sharpie
Apr 15 2008 04:11 PM

Does he also root for the Marlins and Dodgers to lose or just the Mets?

KC
Apr 15 2008 04:18 PM

Why are some numbering the IGTs? Game 12 means nothing to me nor will
game 43 or game 76 if I'd ever want to go back and look at one for some-
thing for a specific date.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 04:49 PM

put the DATE in the title imo.

i like church 2nd/castillo 8th alot.

Valadius
Apr 15 2008 04:51 PM

Ask Edgy. It's a little quirk of his, I dunno.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 05:16 PM

Schneider guns down the guy he was traded for trying to steal 3rd base

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 05:28 PM

Wright!!

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 05:30 PM

'twoulda been even nicer had we not handed Perez an out he wasn't able to get on his own.

mario25
Apr 15 2008 05:50 PM

Castillo to the 8 hole...maybe he will hit his way back up in the lineup

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 05:51 PM

They had Rachel Robinson in the booth for hte bottom of the 2nd, that had to be the worst job of calling the game while interviewing someone that i've ever heard in the regular season (i've heard worse in spring training i think.) i don't even know how castillo got out and they didn't say anything about pelfrey other than to declare him out once the AB was over.
bad bad bad job by the wfan crew there, have the guest stay a full inning so you don't have to ruin the game to talk to them

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 05:53 PM

Schnieder guns out a runner at 2nd on a bunt!

this guy's D has been very impressive.

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:00 PM

Met fans don't seem to know what to think about Milledge.
- they complained that he wasn't brought up quickly enough even though he was the youngest position player in the majors at the time
- then they bitched, moaned and called him over-hyped when he didn't set the world on fire immediately
- then complained when he was dealt away for two starting players
- and are now booing the crap out of him as he returns as a opposition player




Good thing we got that call at 2nd or this inning would be in bigger trouble than it already is

mario25
Apr 15 2008 06:02 PM

Big strikeout of Nick johnson with the bases jammed...BIG PELF

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:04 PM

Two big ABs there,
getting Zimmerman on the bags-loaded pop and then Johnson on the K

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:05 PM

Best contact by Reyes since about ... oh maybe August

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:06 PM

Geez, if you're gonna bunt you might as well leave Castillo up in the 2 slot.

Church may have done that on his own but I don't like it either way

mario25
Apr 15 2008 06:10 PM

I agree Church should be swinging away....doesnt matter Beltran DP

soupcan
Apr 15 2008 06:22 PM

The pinstripes and blue hats look awfully nce.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 06:23 PM

mario25 wrote:
[the sacrifice]doesnt matter - Beltran DP


Let's not let 'em off the hook so easy. Church could've homered, or at least singled him in. And then, at least one more batter would've come to bat on top of that.

I'll give Willie this, though. With Reyes on second and nobody out, the sac bunt eliminated the risk of that 4-5-4-6-4-6-3 double play where Reyes gets caught in a rundown and the batter is doubled up going to second. Happens all the time whenever Reyes leads off the inning and winds up on second before an out is ever made. With Reyes on second and nobody out, all I see is a double play threat. Plus, under the right conditions Reyes could score from second without the ball ever leaving the infield.

Randolph obviously prefers one run innings over the big 4-5 run knockout punch innings. And if he says otherwise, we'll he doesn't play it that way.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 06:24 PM

As a Mets fan I'm glad the Nats are walking Castillo to get to Pelfrey, now we've cleared the pitcher for next inning (barring a pickoff.) As a pitcher you've got to be more agressive there and get Castillo so that you can face Pelfrey to start the next inning.


]Randolph obviously prefers one run innings over the big 4-5 run knockout punch innings. And if he says otherwise, we'll he doesn't play it that way.


thats true, he was on wfan before the game wailing about the mets inability to add the knockout blow when they are winning, well, bunting will do that to you.

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:28 PM

Y'know the fucked up thing though, when I hear criticism of Willie via talk radio or whatever it's just as frequently for [u:f92d5fb752]not bunting enough[/u:f92d5fb752] as for too often.



In the meantime, I'd like to thank Manny Acta for IBB-ing Castillo w/2 outs and a runner on 1st. Nice when the guy [u:f92d5fb752]least able[/u:f92d5fb752] to drive in a runner from 1st base gets a free pass so we can clear the pitcher's spot before next inning.
Those NYM fans who tout Acta as 'the one who got away' and the guy who should be here instead of Willie might want to think about that one.

mario25
Apr 15 2008 06:28 PM

No runs but it is good to clear the pitcher...now if Pelf can get Belliard out. It seems like he has a .1000 avg against the Mets. I do like the original hat and pinstripes...VERY SHARP

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 06:30 PM

Mike Pelfrey just loses all credibility as Gary outs him as a "Saved By The Bell" fan.

soupcan
Apr 15 2008 06:31 PM

mario25 wrote:
I do like the original hat and pinstripes...VERY SHARP


Orange dot and black drop shadows make it not 'original', but still miles better than the other versions.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 06:32 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
thats true, he was on wfan before the game wailing about the mets inability to add the knockout blow when they are winning, well, bunting will do that to you.


And if he honestly believes that he's playing for the big inning, well then he just doesn't get it.


The Mets are up 2-0 but obviously there's a lot of game left. Say, by how many games was it that the Mets missed the playoff last year? One .. right? Just one?

mario25
Apr 15 2008 06:36 PM

That's right about the hat and the black in the uni....They are by far the nicest uni....The Glider is an awesome guy. I met him at the Fantasy Camp and he is a great person who has awesome baseball stories and he has alot of energy.

metsmarathon
Apr 15 2008 06:39 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
Mike Pelfrey just loses all credibility as Gary outs him as a "Saved By The Bell" fan.


there's nothing wrong with that show...

smg58
Apr 15 2008 06:43 PM

Wright should have hustled on that grounder... not sure it would have made a difference but he'd have at least made Zimmerman hurry the throw after looking Reyes back to third.

metsmarathon
Apr 15 2008 06:47 PM

delgado gets an owie to load the bases... and pagan fails to capitalize by flying out to left.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 06:50 PM

]Y'know the fucked up thing though, when I hear criticism of Willie via talk radio or whatever it's just as frequently for not bunting enough as for too often.


there may be situations where i like the bunt (pretty much with the pitcher at the plate or with a guy who can bunt for a hit with a high degree of success) but i doubt i'd ever scream about not bunting.

the mets just had a leadoff triple and loaded the bases without scoring. NOT ACCEPTABLE

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 06:50 PM

We should have more runs at this point.

So should Tampa for that matter as Pettitte gave up 7 hits plus several walks in the first 3 innings but the Rays somehow scored only twice.

mario25
Apr 15 2008 07:05 PM

Mets O is still in need of some clutch hitting.

*62
Apr 15 2008 07:08 PM

Pelfrey taking the mound in the 7th with 90 pitches already ..... excellent velocity tonight (consistently 93).

I'm worried.

*62
Apr 15 2008 07:12 PM

1-2-3

Last pitch ...93

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 07:15 PM

Pelfrey probably done with that pitch count, though i'd have been ok with another inning.

themetfairy
Apr 15 2008 07:15 PM

Watching everyone wearing 42 reminds me of that scene in Being John Malkovich were Malkovich enters the portal and everyone inside is him.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 07:15 PM

Reyes, leading off, needs a HR for the cycle. Plus there's the added benefit that if he HR's, there's a decent chance that Randolph won't sac bunt with the #2 guy.

mario25
Apr 15 2008 07:17 PM

Ray King is fat....off to burger KING

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 07:19 PM

Reyes gets sac bunted to third from second with nobody out. Statistically, Randolph increases the Mets chances of scoring one run by a negligible amount while simultaneously crushing the Mets chances of scoring big. What a waste given that the Mets middle of the order is the team's strong point and has been for Randooph's entire tenure.

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 07:20 PM

I like this Wright kid. Gonna be a good player.

bmfc1
Apr 15 2008 07:21 PM

The BP that Letterman threw Wright yesterday has paid off!

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2008 07:23 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Reyes gets sac bunted to third from second with nobody out


Ummm, it wasn't a bunt, Church swung away and grounded to 1st while Reyes moved over.

themetfairy
Apr 15 2008 07:23 PM

That Number 42 is doing great!

Triple Dee
Apr 15 2008 07:24 PM

Suggested sequel to JCL's book;

"Mets by the Number 42"

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 07:25 PM

="Frayed Knot"]
batmagadanleadoff wrote:

Ummm, it wasn't a bunt, Church swung away and grounded to 1st while Reyes moved over.


Jeez. How did I miss that?

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 07:26 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:

Ummm, it wasn't a bunt, Church swung away and grounded to 1st while Reyes moved over.


So then how did Reyes get to third? I thought he led off with a double.

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 07:33 PM

That commercial would have been way funnier if Cap'n Intangibles had either dropped the keys, threw them over the dad's head, or both. Although it certainly was realistic that he made a major production over catching the keys and tossing them to the guy.

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 07:35 PM

The "42" thing was messing with my head early. We watched the entire pregame festivities upstairs, then put MiniWolf to bed. I then came downstairs and turned the game on. It was already 2-0 at that point, and Beltran was up in the bottom of the first. My immediate thought was "who the hell is #42 on the Mets?"

I'm a moron.

smg58
Apr 15 2008 07:37 PM

I'd have given Duaner the 8th. Heilman has 8.2 innings in 11 games, and even if he weren't struggling, I think you need to be more protective of him.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 07:38 PM

i would give duaner the 9th if its still 4-0.

did wagner pitch sunday? i missed the game, he hasnt been used much yet

Rockin' Doc
Apr 15 2008 07:40 PM

Frayed Knot - "Ummm, it wasn't a bunt, Church swung away and grounded to 1st while Reyes moved over."

batmagadan -"Jeez. How did I miss that?"

Judging from the lengthy discussion of the "bunt" it seems that you were not alone in missing that.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 15 2008 07:58 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote:
Judging from the lengthy discussion of the "bunt" it seems that you were not alone in missing that.


Well it's a good thing that I was corrected. Because I was sitting there in front of the TV, stewing about what I thought was another sac bunt. And then once I learned that there was no intentionally used up out in that inning, the Mets went on to score two more runs, which probably wouldnt'a happened if I continued to stew about that phantom sac bunt.

Nymr83
Apr 15 2008 08:02 PM

thanks, Wright!

we can now safely re-introduce Sanchez to the majors in the 9th.

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 08:02 PM

I like this Wright kid. Gonna be a good player.

themetfairy
Apr 15 2008 08:02 PM

I love that boy!

mario25
Apr 15 2008 08:03 PM

Classic Wright AB....It is almost like the pitcher's give in with 2 strikes...Wright wears them out

seawolf17
Apr 15 2008 08:13 PM

Welcome back, Duaner.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 15 2008 08:13 PM

Maybe Wright and Reyes should consider wearing #42 every game.

metirish
Apr 15 2008 08:15 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
Welcome back, Duaner.


Nice to see him back , good game all round.

mario25
Apr 15 2008 08:21 PM

Great job Mets...Welcome back Duaner

Rockin' Doc
Apr 15 2008 08:28 PM

I love happy endings.

Great game for the Mets. Particularly Mr. Wright, Pelfrey, and Reyes.

Gwreck
Apr 15 2008 09:35 PM

Great game. Felt like 2006 again. (Welcome back Duaner!)

Cold and colder but fortunately not windy so it was tolerable.
*Great* to see Jose come back so strong.
Pelfrey's 21 outs: 12 groundballs, 4 Ks, 2 flyballs, 1 lineout, 1 CS, 1 Bunt. Very encouraging.

The (small) crowd had a nice hand for Duaner when he was announced into the game. Same crowd booed the crap out of Milledge, for reasons I cannot fathom.

AG/DC
Apr 15 2008 09:37 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
="Rockin' Doc"]Judging from the lengthy discussion of the "bunt" it seems that you were not alone in missing that.


Well it's a good thing that I was corrected. Because I was sitting there in front of the TV, stewing about what I thought was another sac bunt. And then once I learned that there was no intentionally used up out in that inning, the Mets went on to score two more runs, which probably wouldnt'a happened if I continued to stew about that phantom sac bunt.


Anger, fear, aggression. These things lead to the dark side.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 15 2008 09:56 PM

I'm OK booing the enemy, it sure beats the cuntrags who booed Heilman after a poorly struck pop fly landed for a double.

Anyway, it started out a little frustratingly but ended up a fine, fun game. I showed up early and dorked it up for a few minutes in front of the SNY cameras for an upcoming slow-news-week episode of Mets Weakly. On my way to the shoot (I was late due to no 7 service from Times Square then local in a sardine can from Qns Plaza) I wound up milling around down on the field looking for the producer and bumping into Burkhardt, Ed Coleman, Keith Hernandez, Harold Reynolds, Jeff Wilpon, etc etc while the Mets took hiutting practice and finally some security guys informed me my badge didn't allow me field access. I finally found the guys up on the concourse.

At the game we met Greg & Jason from Faith & Fear and had a good time hating on Castillo, remembering Jack Heidemann, discussing the merits of the Romantics (Pelfrey's warmup/batting song is "What I Like About You") and thinking maybe we were doomed until the 7th when we broke through again and realized Pelfrey'd gotten us pretty far pretty well. Who else entertained the idea that Pelfrey could have a good year today? I did.

Reyes' final at-bat, going for the HR, was garbage, and I thought his triple was kind of stupid. I mean, it was a high fly that might have been caught or might have been a home run but shouldn't have been a triple. But his double was nice. Idiotic for Church to have bunted him to 3rd. Getting Duaner back was a pleasant surprise to me ... I had forgotten he was likely to return and like many in the park was surprised to see him trottting in. It was the perfect situation to reintroduce him.

Got separated from those guys after the game and made my way to the 7 express by myself and wound up having one of those weird subway conversations. Then, strangely, Greg & Jason walked into the car. This was with a college chick who went to the game solo, brought a glove and was wearing flip flops and a jogging warmup on what was a pretty cold night (I had on 3 shirts, a leather jacket, gloves and a ski cap). Yes, it might have been the sexiest thing ever. She brought her glove. If you are single you should go post on missed connections at craigslist. Like, now. I mean, she was crazier than Church's bunt but she goes to Mets games by herself. On her way to W-burg, but didn't know she could cut 15 mins off her trip using the G or B61. I didn't know the postgame express 7 was actually Super Xpress and had to head back to QNS at Grand Central.

Gwreck
Apr 15 2008 10:27 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I'm OK booing the enemy, it sure beats the cuntrags who booed Heilman after a poorly struck pop fly landed for a double.


Fair point, forgot to mention it. He's only been our best and most consistent reliever for three years. Stop the booing NOW.

]I didn't know the postgame express 7 was actually Super Xpress and had to head back to QNS at Grand Central.


Sorry I didn't see ya there. My new method is getting off at Queensboro Plaza and getting the 61 there.

AG/DC
Apr 15 2008 10:37 PM

The boobirds were despicable tonight.

Hey, Met fans, you CAN have it all, but you're entitled to NOTHING.

Triple Dee
Apr 15 2008 10:57 PM

JCL - there was lots of discussion about Mets "numerology" during the game , specifically:

Seaver + Doc = Santana

Randolph MFY + Randolph Mets = Jackie Robinson

Keith's 1+7 = Yogi Berra.

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 15 2008 10:59 PM

]she was crazier than Church's bunt but she goes to Mets games by herself.


Hilarious. That flip-flopped chick sounds like my soul mate. Painted toes or no?

Gary and Keith had an inning-long chat about the booing and pointed out the stark home/road splits for guys like Beltran and Delgado and talked about how the Mets were the only team in MLB last year with a better road record than home. I'm sure there's more reasons for that than just booing, but fuck, man, support your guys.

Triple Dee
Apr 16 2008 04:20 AM

The booing of Beltran was just insane. Was last night Metsblog Comments Poster Night, or something?

Fman99
Apr 16 2008 07:00 AM

Great game all around. I love watching Big Pelf use his stuff to get hitters out. Wright, Reyes, Sanchez, me happy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 16 2008 07:45 AM

Big Pelf's 3rd inning or whatever, when he got the popup and the strikeout was sexy as all hell. That's what really encourages me about Pelf -- he's finally getting some whiffs.