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IGT, Game 14, 4/17, vs. DC: Soul Twist

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 04:28 AM



I'm starting this one extra-early, as I'm off to the new Nationals Park to get my soul twisted --- and hopefullly the late great King Curtis will be there in spirit and save some soul for his fellow Shea-dwellers as well.

This is just the sort of matchup you want to see in a series-ender: unheralded journeyman vs. unheralded rookie. Nelson Figueroa's big-league life is tenuous, so hopefully he'll get to wear some home whites before the Mets hit the road again.

Worth noting: the Mets have gone with the same outfield every game so far. Only the Braves can say the same. Look for them to go with Pagan-Beltran-church at least one more game.

Tonight will be the last active anniversary ever for Shea Stadium, which debuted this night in 1964, with the outfield walls still wet.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2008 06:18 AM

Wait a minute... today's game is being played at Shea...

Willets Point
Apr 17 2008 06:21 AM

Opening Day 1964:

Willets Point
Apr 17 2008 06:24 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Wait a minute... today's game is being played at Shea...


AG's going to Nationals Ballpark to see Joseph "Benedict" Ratzinger (# XVI in your scorecard) open for the Vatican 9.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2008 06:28 AM

Ah! I forgot about that.

I heard a report on NPR yesterday about this. I thought they were saying that the Pope would be at National Spaceball Park.

I thought, huh?

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 06:33 AM

If the Nats go on a 147-game win streak, it will form conclusive proof that God exists.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2008 06:37 AM

And if they don't, it will prove the opposite.

soupcan
Apr 17 2008 07:27 AM

From today's New York Post:

Forty-four years ago today, the Mets' Jack Fisher took the mound as the starter for the opener at Shea. To this day, Fisher remembers who his first opposing hitter was (Dick Schofield), who his catcher was (Jesse Gonder) and what he threw for his first pitch (a strike).

The Mets lost 4-3 to the Pirates, with 48,736 in the stands, and Fisher, 69, remembers them being pretty loud.

"Raucous, roaring," he said yesterday in a phone conversation. "They were great."

Fisher, along with Ron Hunt (first Met run at Shea) and Tim Harkness (first Met hit at Shea), will pull down the Shea countdown number today.

metirish
Apr 17 2008 07:34 AM

That's great to have those guys doing the honors.

SteveJRogers
Apr 17 2008 07:40 AM

="soupcan"]From today's New York Post:

Forty-four years ago today, the Mets' Jack Fisher took the mound as the starter for the opener at Shea. To this day, Fisher remembers who his first opposing hitter was (Dick Schofield), who his catcher was (Jesse Gonder) and what he threw for his first pitch (a strike).

The Mets lost 4-3 to the Pirates, with 48,736 in the stands, and Fisher, 69, remembers them being pretty loud.

"Raucous, roaring," he said yesterday in a phone conversation. "They were great."

Fisher, along with Ron Hunt (first Met run at Shea) and Tim Harkness (first Met hit at Shea), will pull down the Shea countdown number today.


Somewhere in the NYC area Greg Prince and Jason Fry are celebrating.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2008 07:51 AM

]
Fisher, along with Ron Hunt (first Met run at Shea) and Tim Harkness (first Met hit at Shea), will pull down the Shea countdown number today.


Hopefully there will be a nice online photo of that.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 08:05 AM

Figueroa! Butch Stover! Casanova!

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 02:01 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
And if they don't, it will prove the opposite.


Hey, no fair.

sharpie
Apr 17 2008 04:22 PM

Beltran outta da lineup the night after he goes yard for the first time. Also, Casanova the personal catcher for Figueroa.

Guzman ss
Belliard 2b
Zimmerman 3b
Johnson 1b
Milledge cf
Kearns rf
Pena lf
Nieves c
Lannan p

Reyes ss
Church rf
Wright 3b
Delgado 1b
Pagan cf
Clark lf
Casanova c
Castillo 2b
N. Figueroa p

OlerudOwned
Apr 17 2008 05:01 PM

Wow Edgy, great timing on pointing out the OF streak.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 05:12 PM

I thought Endy would have started ahead of Brady Clark.


Then again, Willie may not be a believer in redundancy.

TransMonk
Apr 17 2008 05:25 PM

Ryan Church is pretty freakin' awesome early this year.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 05:27 PM

Good to see he's hitting lefties.

mario25
Apr 17 2008 05:30 PM

To bad Delgado cant.....

OlerudOwned
Apr 17 2008 05:34 PM

Nelson channeling Pedro. But with his arm actually remaining attached to his body.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 05:36 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2008 05:37 PM

Nelson's got some filthy stuff tonight.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 05:37 PM

At least we're getting some value out of Church and Schneider.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 05:38 PM

So far so good.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 05:40 PM

Hey, I just realized that I can watch the game. FINALLY!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 05:43 PM

Fucking Castillo sucks.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 05:48 PM

All hail Lord Nelson!

G-Fafif
Apr 17 2008 05:58 PM

Kid from the borough of my birth versus kid from the city of my upbringing in a duel, if so inclined, I could take personally. Yet I'm not torn in my allegiance. John Lannin couldn't even be bothered to go to LBHS.

Go Figgie. Go Brooklyn.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 05:58 PM

Good God, the Nationals' commentators are horrible.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 06:01 PM

Who are they?

First cheap hit off Figgy.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:01 PM

Figgy misplays a ball hit at him, and they rule it a hit.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:02 PM

Don Sutton and some other guy.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:03 PM

FUCK.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 06:03 PM

Bob Carpenter is the play-by-play guy. He created a very nice scorebook but he is a horrendous announcer. Locals seem to like him which means that they don't know what a good announcer sounds like.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:05 PM

Yeah, he said that the Mets were in an 8-team National League in 1964. Idiot.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:07 PM

He just said that Delgado is playing first base because he no longer can be a catcher. What is WRONG with this guy?

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 06:08 PM

Well, I guess that's true in a sense. I'd hate to see Delgado behind the plate.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 06:10 PM

I hate seeing Delgado in general.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 06:12 PM

Vlad--will you be at Nats Park next Wednesday?

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:15 PM

Yeah, I'll be there.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 06:17 PM

Let's make sure that we talk before then.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:18 PM

Ok. Will do.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 06:20 PM

Behind the back!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:20 PM

WOW. What a catch by Figueroa! He wasn't even looking at it!

KC
Apr 17 2008 06:22 PM

Gotta score some runs for him and get him another W. He didn't even smile.
If ya didn't see this, you will on all the sports clip type shows.

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 06:27 PM

Then strikeouts and four in a row and I think the Kid from Strong Beach is having a night.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:28 PM

10 strikeouts after 5. Damn.

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 06:29 PM

End of five. Plenty of baseball left, but DC tends to get stronger when you get to their pen.

OlerudOwned
Apr 17 2008 06:30 PM

That's Lannan with how many K's, sir?

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:36 PM

Lord Nelson stays in the game.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:39 PM

It's about TIME!!!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 06:43 PM

What the hell just happened?

KC
Apr 17 2008 06:47 PM

Church hit the catchers glove on the back swing.

The camera work at Shea has really been nice so far. They said on the b'cast
that they've added like eight more views.

willpie
Apr 17 2008 07:08 PM


Hi. I'm NASCAR non-legend Greg Biffle. I'm here to talk to you about bunting. It's for losers.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2008 07:13 PM

Exhibit #4,325 in the tenure of Willie Randolph on why not to freakin' bunt!

metirish
Apr 17 2008 07:15 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2008 07:15 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Exhibit #4,325 in the tenure of Willie Randolph on why not to freakin' bunt!




Look , Willie has been a winner all his life, he came from winning so I trust him.....

mario25
Apr 17 2008 07:15 PM

Especially with Casanova and Castillo comin up.....Randolph think

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2008 07:18 PM

metirish wrote:
Look , Willie has been a winner all his life, he came from winning so I trust him.....


Yeah. Willie's gonna bunt us all the way to the World Series. It's a plan that's working real well. Say, weren't you gonna pay me for my posts? When?

metirish
Apr 17 2008 07:21 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
="metirish"]Look , Willie has been a winner all his life, he came from winning so I trust him.....


Yeah. Willie's gonna bunt us all the way to the World Series. It's a plan that's working real well. Say, weren't you gonna pay me for my posts? When?



Willie has these gut feelings , trust him.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2008 07:22 PM

Okay. Top of the order. Let's start off with a sac bunt by Reyes. And then two productive outs after that. That should be worth 4 or 5 runs. I love Willie. I love Willie because he's better than Dallas Green.

KC
Apr 17 2008 07:33 PM

Funny open-mic stuff is second Tuesday of every month.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 07:36 PM

Does Delgado inspire confidence in this situation?

mario25
Apr 17 2008 07:36 PM

Delgado needs to come up big here or the washed up talk could begin again this year

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 07:37 PM

No.

Please.... prove me wrong Carlos, please!

metirish
Apr 17 2008 07:37 PM

Bunting situation right here now for Delgado....

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 07:41 PM

I knew he could do it.

OlerudOwned
Apr 17 2008 07:41 PM

Attaboy Delgado.

mario25
Apr 17 2008 07:41 PM

DELGADO.......NICE

metirish
Apr 17 2008 07:41 PM

Willie let him swing away , pure genius.

KC
Apr 17 2008 07:41 PM

I was typing about Delgado's slow bat disease -- never mind -- for now.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 07:42 PM

A home run would have been better, pitch being in his wheelhouse and all.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 07:42 PM

Thank you for the fastball, tall one.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 07:42 PM

Thank you, CARLOS!!

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 07:42 PM

I'm sorry for having doubted you Carlos.

Thank you for the RBI.

mario25
Apr 17 2008 07:44 PM

Me too....Me too

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 07:44 PM

Seems like Rauch should have stuck with the breaking stuff.

mario25
Apr 17 2008 07:53 PM

I like the new Wagner slow curve/slider

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 07:59 PM

Castillo keeps it alive.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2008 08:01 PM

Looks like the Castillo shift is on, which is sort of based on the brand of baseball played in the LA Coliseum a few weeks ago. The Castillo shift, however, requires all three outfielders to be moved into the infield.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 08:10 PM

Nice work tonight by the bullpen. Let's see the big boys put this one to bed.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 08:11 PM

Duaner shuts them down. Now it's time to end this thing.

Mendoza Line
Apr 17 2008 08:21 PM

Nice heads-up running by Church on the fly to Milledge. That trade isn't looking so bad anymore.

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 08:21 PM

Church tagging from first to second on a fly to center. You don't oft see that.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 08:24 PM

Mendoza Line wrote:
Nice heads-up running by Church on the fly to Milledge. That trade isn't looking so bad anymore.


I am starting to come around on that point.

You have to wonder how much of Pelfrey's success, not to mention Figueroa, is due to the Schneider effect. Plus Church can rake.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 08:28 PM

Pagan put good wood on the ball but it was an 'atom' shot.

Surprised to see Duaner out there for another inning.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 08:31 PM

Wow. Great catch by Casanova on the popup.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 08:50 PM

You know who is enjoying this game? The Phillies because the Mets are using the entire pen. Santana needs to work deep into the game tomorrow.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 08:51 PM

That inning turned to shit pretty quickly.

The pen needs to hold them again so we can win it with the 9-1-2-3 hitters in the bottom half.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 09:00 PM

Smith does his part to execute the plan.

Now let's get a run!!!

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 09:03 PM

Maybe the Mets can get to Ray "Burger" King.

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 09:05 PM

Easley starts it off with the lead off single. It's up to the top of the order to get him in and deliver the victory. Come on Jose.

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 09:07 PM

He was safe.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:07 PM

Horrible call.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 09:07 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2008 09:08 PM

I don't like Church bunting. He's been swinging a good bat -- let him take his cuts. Though he could be bunting on his own there.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 09:07 PM

You gotta be kidding me! Come on Willie, get mad!

Rockin' Doc
Apr 17 2008 09:09 PM

Reyes "surprise" sac bunt gets booted and everyone is safe.

Church forces Easley at third on a FC.

It falls to Mr. Wright.

Upon edit: Damn, I'm always so far behind the live action it's almost comical sometimes Gameday is so slow.

Fman99
Apr 17 2008 09:11 PM

Fuck fuck fuck fuckity fuckity fuckin fuck.

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 09:11 PM

Reyes gonna steal 3d?

bmfc1
Apr 17 2008 09:11 PM

Fman99 wrote:
Fuck fuck fuck fuckity fuckity fuckin fuck.


Exactly!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:26 PM

Christ, this game is STILL going?

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:29 PM

Wow. They walked Sosa, of all people.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:31 PM

Hanrahan's losing control.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:32 PM

Now Endy walks, and Casanova's up.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:34 PM

Casanova caught looking. Castillo up.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:34 PM

Take a swing you piece of crap!!!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:35 PM

FUCK!!!

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 09:35 PM

Funny game.

He misses with fastballs and digs holes. He gets comes back with breaking pitches.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:35 PM

It's going to be a long four years.

AG/DC
Apr 17 2008 09:36 PM

Be here now.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:37 PM

I wonder how Argenis Reyes is doing?

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:45 PM

WHAT A K!!!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:47 PM

Hey, Ray Knight does the postgame here.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:47 PM

Easley starts it off with a single through the hole.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:47 PM

Deja Vu.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:48 PM

FFS!!!!

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:49 PM

Go Senator Chicken!!!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:49 PM

Reyes fucks up the bunt, Easley steals second as Guzman can't get the ball.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2008 09:50 PM

Please stop bunting!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:51 PM

Hanrahan throws it away!!! Easley to third!

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:52 PM

Bonehead pick-off move.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:52 PM

And Senator Chicken gets K'd.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:52 PM

Dammit, I have a great graphic set up for Senator Chicken.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:54 PM

I look forward to seeing it.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:55 PM

Nats load the bases for Brian Schneider.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:55 PM

GAME OVER!!! WILD PITCH!!!

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:56 PM

Praise the Lawgiver!!!

TheOldMole
Apr 17 2008 09:56 PM

Well, that's one way.

And I'll take it.

And bedtime for Bonzo.

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:57 PM

Survey says.........................

One more for the GOOD GUYS!!!

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 09:58 PM

Holy crap, Ray Knight looks old!

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 09:58 PM

TransMonk
Apr 17 2008 09:58 PM

The Nats should have won this game about 3 times before they lost.

A win is a win and a sweep is a sweep, but that took way too long against the worst team in baseball.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2008 10:00 PM

Interesting concept; the offense trying to advance runners kept giving the defense outs while the defense kept trying for outs but wound up giving offense all kinds of extra bases.

Valadius
Apr 17 2008 10:00 PM

What the hell, I'll put up my Senator Chicken graphic in celebration:

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2008 10:09 PM

Go shitty throws!

Triple Dee
Apr 17 2008 10:13 PM

A special thank you to Hanrahan for euthanizing this game.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2008 06:42 AM

I just watched the 14th inning on TiVo delay. (I went to bed last night after the 13th.)

I was awfully surprised that David Wright saw three pitches before they decided to intentionally walk him. Seemed like an obvious move to me.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2008 06:53 AM

Also, did anyone catch Gary Cohen's indirect plug of Mets By the Numbers at the beginning of last night's game?

They showed a couple of kids with Mets uniform numbers painted on their cheeks. (5 7 15 57, or something like that) and Gary said, simply, "Mets by the numbers."

And that was that.

metirish
Apr 18 2008 07:08 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Also, did anyone catch Gary Cohen's indirect plug of Mets By the Numbers at the beginning of last night's game?

They showed a couple of kids with Mets uniform numbers painted on their cheeks. (5 7 15 57, or something like that) and Gary said, simply, "Mets by the numbers."

And that was that.



Yes I did , meant to mention it actually...


I'm lame because I didn't stay up for the final inning , went to bed when we filed to score in the 13th.

AG/DC
Apr 18 2008 07:17 AM

A Mets Hall-of-Famer plugging your book on air --- if that's not a secular benediction, I don't know what is.

I don't recall, but I hope the book wasn't too hard on Gary.

I quit after 13 --- it may have been the sleepiest day of my adult life. Don't sell this game short --- the Mets should have won it three times also.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 18 2008 07:20 AM

metirish wrote:
="Benjamin Grimm"]Also, did anyone catch Gary Cohen's indirect plug of Mets By the Numbers at the beginning of last night's game?

They showed a couple of kids with Mets uniform numbers painted on their cheeks. (5 7 15 57, or something like that) and Gary said, simply, "Mets by the numbers."

And that was that.



Yes I did , meant to mention it actually...


I'm lame because I didn't stay up for the final inning , went to bed when we filed to score in the 13th.


They were actually telling people to stop watching the game and go see me speak last night... Did a talk with MetsGrrl and another writer at my local bookstore, attended by, among others, the CPF's own Gwreck. So I missed the 1st to 7th innings, but afterward we repaired to the local watering hole where we wound up getting plenty of baseball anyway.