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IGT, Game 17, 4/20: One Hit After Another

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 10:27 AM

Mike Pelfrey (1.50 ERA) is poised to take Adam Eaton's lunch today, but he'll have to wait until tonight. Thanks ESPN.

themetfairy Apr 20 2008 10:41 AM

Perhaps he'll just drink Eaton's milkshake.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2008 03:33 PM

Good Times? Pelfrey not gettin' hassled, not gettin' hustled, keepin' his head above water...

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 04:45 PM

Duaner Sanchez coming back from the temporary layoffs and easy credit ripoffs.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 04:55 PM

Temporary Layoffs Easy Credit Ripoffs Reyes, ss Castillo, 2b Wright, 3b Beltran, cf Delgado, 1b Church, rf Casanova, c Chavez, lf Pelfrey, p Werth, cf Dobbs, 3b Utley, 2b Howard, 1b Burrell, lf Jenkins, rf Coste, c Bruntlett, ss Eaton, p

Nymr83 Apr 20 2008 05:02 PM

Church was doing great hitting 2nd, why move him back down? He's a better hitter than Castillo by far. Once Alou gets back, if he ever does, I'd like to see Church 2nd every day instead of 7th between Alou and Schneider. Speaking of Schneider is he seriously injured?

Valadius Apr 20 2008 05:06 PM

What the hell? The lineup functioned perfectly with Church 2nd and Castillo 8th. Fuck Castillo's ego.

Rockin' Doc Apr 20 2008 05:07 PM

Nymr -"Church was doing great hitting 2nd, why move him back down? He's a better hitter than Castillo by far." I had the same reaction when I read the line ups. If Willie insists on playing Castillo everyday, then he should leave him in the 8th spot in the order where he belongs. I guess Willie likes that Castillo is a better bunter than Church.

TheOldMole Apr 20 2008 05:10 PM

Castillo does a lot of things well from the two-hole. Church is effective down in the power pocket of the lineup. If Castillo is going to stay north of the Mendoza line, this will be OK.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 05:34 PM

I'm going to think that, with Pagan out of the lineup, Randolph thought they looked weak down the bottom half of the lineup. An alternative was sticking the little-used-thus-far Chavez in the second slot, but Randolph, and all of us, have an interest in rehabilitating Castillo and his confidence, and that might mean an occasional return to the two hole to see if he can re-assert himself. It happens.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 05:45 PM

AG/DC wrote: I'm going to think that, with Pagan out of the lineup, Randolph thought they looked weak down the bottom half of the lineup. An alternative was sticking the little-used-thus-far Chavez in the second slot, but Randolph, and all of us, have an interest in rehabilitating Castillo and his confidence, and that might mean an occasional return to the two hole to see if he can re-assert himself. It happens. That's pretty much what Willie said on the pre-game. Schneider's day-to-day at this point ... but, then again, aren't we all? In a surprise move the Phillies DL'd Jimmy Rollins after sitting him out for 10 days in which he got only 4 PHs or so. So no back-dating either since he PH'd just yesterday. Also, the recently called-up Chris Snelling is also DL'd (I think that's the 400th time in his career although I'd have to check on the exact amount). Two scrubs I've never heard of were called up for tonight's game.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 05:57 PM

Fuck Castillo's ego is another view. Sheesh, let's exercise perspecttive.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 06:14 PM

I think Morgan just tried to correlate handedness to Wright's and Delgado's memory of the results of games vs. Eaton. Not egregiously stupid as much as "huhwha?" worthy.

Grote15 Apr 20 2008 06:17 PM

Sounds like professional Assclown Morgan has money on the Phillies.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 06:19 PM

Blargh keep your mouth closed Pelfrey, I just ate.

Triple Dee Apr 20 2008 06:20 PM

Is Angel being rested or is he hurt?

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 06:21 PM

I haven't seen enough of Pelfrey this year (hockey took precedent) to know if he has an acceptable offspeed pitch yet, but damn, he might not need one if he throws his heater like that.

Grote15 Apr 20 2008 06:22 PM

Not hurt..AB's for Endy I would imagine Hell..Pelfrey looks like a major pitcher...Keep it up big boy

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 06:24 PM

Wind is Pelfrey's friend. Everybody pass some wind.

Grote15 Apr 20 2008 06:25 PM

Then again..

Zvon Apr 20 2008 06:25 PM

Wow,..I thought that was gone for sure. Church nabs it at the wall. But oh, that one is gone for sure. That damn Utley.

Grote15 Apr 20 2008 06:26 PM

AG.. I'm farting as fast as I can..believe me..

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 06:26 PM

Well, his changeup didn't look that bad against Dobbs as far as speed and break, but Dobbs timed the swing right and almost took it deep. Buh. Utley homers.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 06:28 PM

Utley is fart-proof right now.

Willets Point Apr 20 2008 06:29 PM

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 06:38 PM

Grounder to short The inning looked ova But Bruntlett can't peg Raul Casanova

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 06:40 PM

Raul Casanova: Brought to you by Reebok.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 06:48 PM

Time to stop Eaton shit.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 07:10 PM

AG/DC wrote: Grounder to short The inning looked ova But Bruntlett can't peg Raul Casanova Burma Shave

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 07:12 PM

Swing at that Eaton crap, 'Los.

cooby Apr 20 2008 07:20 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Blargh keep your mouth closed Pelfrey, I just ate. What IS that? A mouth guard?

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 07:21 PM

Oh, yeah, that's what Chavez brings.

themetfairy Apr 20 2008 07:21 PM

Great play - that's why we HAVE an Endy Chavez! (And yes, cooby - Pelfrey wears a mouthguard)

Zvon Apr 20 2008 07:22 PM

Burrell out at 2nd by a country mile...

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 07:35 PM

Just watching Pelfrey's stuff today, I don't have much faith in his ability to be successful. The ESPN booth keeps talking about his fastball, his fastball, his fastball, and they've been basically right in scouting it right. But they haven't said a word about his offspeed stuff, or lack there of, and why it's going to kill him. He seems to be back to trying the changeup as his primary off speed pitch again, but it's not working. Looking at the [url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fid%2F2172223&ei=e-4LSNehHYfGgQKFrKXdDQ&usg=AFQjCNGNTyvgVR0YPgRsBPMpF5yVWp_yQQ&sig2=FTQyiuJW03nkzRSEQUsijg]Pitch F/X[/url] information of his changeup, the velocity at the time of release is way, way slower than on his fastball, which would suggest that he still can't throw a change without slowing his arm down. That's not going to fool anybody. The Utley at-bat in the 3rd summed it up pretty well. You can sit on his fastball all day, and if you're a good enough hitter to avoid letting it blow you away, you've got him cornered. Eventually he's going to wear down or miss his spots with the fastball and people are going to kill it or draw walks. His fastball has natural sink, but not to the Wang or Webb degree that he's going to be able to get by on it without an offspeed pitch to keep people honest.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:42 PM

The triple play is in order.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 07:42 PM

Looks like another long day for the bullpen. I don't see Pelf striking Utley out. Pray pray for the double play.

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 07:44 PM

Fuck. Exploding fastball, my ass.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 07:44 PM

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ....that damn Utley.

Triple Dee Apr 20 2008 07:44 PM

Frick on a stick.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:44 PM

] Pray pray for the double play. You gotta dream bigger than that.

themetfairy Apr 20 2008 07:44 PM

Fuckshit!

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 07:47 PM

Utley just put a hotel on the Mike Pelfrey space in this Monopoly of life.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:48 PM

Willie's gonna assess him for Street Repairs.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 07:49 PM

At least we can still love David.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:53 PM

4 runs ain't nothin...

Zvon Apr 20 2008 07:53 PM

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 07:54 PM

That's a start.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 07:55 PM

Castillo, you do that. Don't listen to the hate.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:55 PM

Castillo wants some make-up sex.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 07:58 PM

K, your HUGE here Beltran. Make it happen.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 07:58 PM

Wright Night. Now the drama. Beltran + Delgado = 0-20 this series.

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 07:59 PM

1-21.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 07:59 PM

I've never been happier with 1-21. 2-22, anyone?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 07:59 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 4 runs ain't nothin... You said it, Bucket!

themetfairy Apr 20 2008 07:59 PM

OK - we got last inning's three back!

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 08:00 PM

Adam Eaton just remembered that he sucks. Excellent; the Phillies' bullpen. Is Tom Gordon still pitching? I always enjoy watching him give up runs.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:00 PM

Ill take the 2 RBI single, thnkuverymuch And we knock Eaton off the mound. Nice. Lets get into that pen.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 08:01 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 4 runs ain't nothin... You said it, Bucket! Mets filling up the wards as one more basket case is talking to himself.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:02 PM

This where Edgy's call on dropping Church for lineup balance makes Willie look smart. Delgado-Church-Casanova here vs. Delgado-Casanova-Castillo.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 08:03 PM

4 straight hits and Eaton's gone after stumping us for 5 innings. Now we just need a quick poke and then 4 good innings for the pen ... no problem!!

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 08:03 PM

Joe Morgan: "That's why he had such a high ERA last year." Jon Miller: "He gave up a lot of runs." My ears are bleeding.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 08:05 PM

Why no taggie?

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:05 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 20 2008 08:07 PM

Burrell has been seriously busting his ass on defense in this series. Off to a hell of a start this season. OE: It's also a contract year for him. Hmm. It's funny, as big a Mets killer as he is, I've always sort of liked him as a player. Almost out of pity, too. He just seems like a very underappreciated hitter in the Dunn mold.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:05 PM

I can't believe Burrell makes that catch. You wanna know why? K, Ill tell you. He SUCKS! (he's hittin and fieldin this season,...must be a contract year)

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 08:07 PM

TIED. Fuck yeah.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 08:07 PM

As Mets fans we'd have creamed ourselves for a home-developed outfielder as accomplished as Burrell has been. Fuck yup, tie score.

Methead Apr 20 2008 08:08 PM

Nice work, Mets.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:08 PM

YEEEEEAAAAAA! I worship Church. Tie ballgame.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:08 PM

Boo-ya! (I missed all Friday and Satuday's games while visiting family out of town). Piece of advice. Don't take two kids age 3 and 9 months on a 350 mile car ride. Bad things ensue.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:08 PM

I gotta say, I like Church so far. Seems like a gritty gamer.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 08:09 PM

That's a lot of simulpostin'. Mets make statement.

seawolf17 Apr 20 2008 08:10 PM

Wait, the Mets are on ESPN again tomorrow? It's not Morgan and Miller again, is it?

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 08:11 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 20 2008 08:11 PM

AG/DC wrote: Why no taggie? On the fly to Burrell from 1st base?!?? Hell No! Ralphie Newhouse (aka Raul Casa-nova) walks and puts to go-ahead into scoring position

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:11 PM

seawolf17 wrote: Wait, the Mets are on ESPN again tomorrow? It's not Morgan and Miller again, is it? I'm gonna be there!!!!!

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:12 PM

Pelf lucky to get a ND out of this game.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 08:14 PM

]Don't take two kids age 3 and 9 months on a 350 mile car ride Well if you'd stop defying God and science by having kids 6 months apart these sort of things wouldn't happen.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:15 PM

Dang. Bottom of the lineup can't continue the trend. Still, brand new ball game.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:16 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ]Don't take two kids age 3 and 9 months on a 350 mile car ride Well if you'd stop defying God and science by having kids 6 months apart these sort of things wouldn't happen. Indeed!

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 08:18 PM

Be nice if Sosa could suck up a coupla innings here.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:20 PM

Chad Kroeger is apparently pinch hitting for Philly. Nickelback sucks.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:21 PM

="metsguyinmichigan"] ="seawolf17"]Wait, the Mets are on ESPN again tomorrow? It's not Morgan and Miller again, is it? I'm gonna be there!!!!! Bring a banner saying how much you love Joe Morgan's broadcasting. They are sure to show it and its sure to be the only such banner in existance, and we will know it's you on TV

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:24 PM

Nice basket catch by Churchy. Top of the lineup coming up in the 7th.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:26 PM

="Zvon"] ="metsguyinmichigan"] ="seawolf17"]Wait, the Mets are on ESPN again tomorrow? It's not Morgan and Miller again, is it? I'm gonna be there!!!!! Bring a banner saying how much you love Joe Morgan's broadcasting. They are sure to show it and its sure to be the only such banner in existance, and we will know it's you on TV Eeeeewwww. Can't I just post a photo instead? I did meet Miller and Gammons once, and both were very nice.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 08:27 PM

Church is turning out to be a nice little outfielder

cooby Apr 20 2008 08:28 PM

This is cute

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:32 PM

mgim, you should just hold up a sign that just plainly states that "Joe Morgan Had A Career 158.3 WARP3." We'll see if they acknowledge it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 08:33 PM

swingbatta

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:35 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: mgim, you should just hold up a sign that just plainly states that "Joe Morgan Had A Career 158.3 WARP3." We'll see if they acknowledge it. Hee hee! Our seats are in the upper deck along the third base side, which is usually out of banner/camera range.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:38 PM

FUCK

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:38 PM

Feliz + LHP + Bandbox = Duck!

themetfairy Apr 20 2008 08:38 PM

Ugh!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 08:38 PM

Pedro Feliz 1, Pedro Feliziano 0

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:38 PM

Horrible pitch. Grrrrr.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:40 PM

Come on Feleece. Whatareyatryintodotome?

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:41 PM

Feliciano's not keeping his shit down in the zone. Fuck.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:42 PM

Nice pitch! Have a seat Ryan!

Zvon Apr 20 2008 08:43 PM

="cooby"] This is cute Ain't it? A friend made me a bunch of Met smileys. Feel free to use em...I support em. Right click smiley>properties>URL

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 08:44 PM

Pat Burrell, please have mercy on our lefthander.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:45 PM

Anyone else noticing a home-field strike zone advantage besides me? Maybe I'm just cheesed off at the shoddy relief pitching. I thought Pelf was getting squeezed earlier.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:45 PM

Smart pitching by Feliciano. Jenkins will chase some crap. This is all you, Pedro.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:46 PM

Yay. Bazooka Joe time, to face Coste.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 08:51 PM

Purdy.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:53 PM

OK, Let's Go Mets!

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:57 PM

Holy shit how does anyone listen to these two boobs week after week? They just go on and on.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 08:59 PM

Ha! Stupid So Taguchi. Let's see if Endy's got any clutch hits in that bat of his.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 08:59 PM

Nice hustle!

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 09:00 PM

Anytime JC Romero wants to revert to his pre-2007 suckitude is OK with me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:01 PM

Send me an angel.

Fman99 Apr 20 2008 09:01 PM

OK, check that. Go Angel.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:01 PM

How bad is The Schneid? We could use a pinch runner here

cooby Apr 20 2008 09:02 PM

="Zvon"] ="cooby"] This is cute Ain't it? A friend made me a bunch of Met smileys. Feel free to use em...I support em. Right click smiley>properties>URL Thanks! I like smileys; used responsibly, of course

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:03 PM

ah, crud.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:11 PM

OK, strap 'em on, fellas. Go forward. Move Ahead. Try to Detect it. It's not too late.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 09:13 PM

Make it happen.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:14 PM

3-1 on Damion. Take or swing?

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:15 PM

Swing. 3-2.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 09:15 PM

Easley walks ... time to push Lidge off a ledge

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:16 PM

Bam. Walk. Baserunner. Sac? Hope not.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 09:16 PM

Lidge is wild. Let's hope that psyche is still nice and fragile.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:16 PM

Now we're in biz.

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:17 PM

Hard to credit Bruntlett with that hit, but I think I heart Bruntlett.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 09:17 PM

Slap it past the charging Feliz

Zvon Apr 20 2008 09:18 PM

I like how the 9th starts. Time to get in Lidge's head. This calls for a bunt Castillo. We know you can do that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:19 PM

Castinko.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 09:20 PM

Proper Swing Mechanics, by Luis Castillo

Zvon Apr 20 2008 09:20 PM

Ugh..Castillo. Whatareyatryintodotome? He can't get a bunt down and then swings at a pitch he could have let hit him. lol

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 09:21 PM

dammit! How much foul ground do they have there?

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 09:21 PM

What blows around comes around. So much for our wind.

Triple Dee Apr 20 2008 09:22 PM

The wind giveth, the wind taketh away.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 09:22 PM

OHH. Who mentioned wind earlier? Wrights pop up blown into play.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:22 PM

Fuckfuckfukfukfufkshit

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

Idiot wind!

metsguyinmichigan Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

Rats.

OlerudOwned Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

="AG/DC"]Hard to credit Bruntlett with that hit, but I think I heart Bruntlett.

DocTee Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

motherfather

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

Bruntlett, you break my heart.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2008 09:23 PM

Son of a bitch. Work and Carlos Zambrano tomorrow.

Zvon Apr 20 2008 09:25 PM

Wow. What a play by the other shortstop, and... did u see how Utley hit the deck on the throw? Id like to say that was heads up but it was pretty much the opposite....

Valadius Apr 20 2008 09:30 PM

1. Move Church back to #2 and Castillo back to #8 2. Get the Pope back here

AG/DC Apr 20 2008 09:34 PM

3. Don't insult Eric Bruntlett while he can still beat you, idiot.

Gwreck Apr 20 2008 11:44 PM

Went to the game. Everything key covered here except I can't help but add to the chorus of Luis Castillo is a stinking pile of crap. I didn't think the bunt was the right call (smacks of playing for the tie, which, on the road, doesn't seem like a good idea) but no matter what, he has to -- at the very minimum -- move the runners up. Philly is turning into a very nasty place to see a game. I'm sure there was the usual complement of Mets fans behaving badly (fitting in perfectly with the scores of Philly fans behaving badly) but I'm not a big cheer obnoxiously/taunt other fans while on the road kind of person, and we got berated with things that I can't repeat here, particularly after the game. Seems like people are very much on edge in Philly about their team this year. The "Still the team to beat" signs they had were pretty pathetic, as were the fans there after salvaging only a second win (out of 6 games) against the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 21 2008 08:20 AM

Gwreck wrote: Philly is turning into a very nasty place to see a game. I've been getting that same vibe. Even though it's the most convenient place (for me) to see a Mets game, I'd rather make the trip to Shea. Next year, if Citi Tickets are too hard (or expensive) to come by, I'll try to satisfy my Mets jones by going to Washington.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2008 08:27 AM

The little bit of talk radio I listened to this weekend was filled with stories from callers about fights, harrassment, over-zealous security, and just general unpleasentness during this Met-Philly series. Both sides, of course, blamed each other for inciting most of the trouble although there seemed to be a general agreement that things were far worse than anything you'd consider "normal". Sounds like some are taking this newly amped up rivalry a bit too seriously.

AG/DC Apr 21 2008 02:10 PM

Well, my run as undefeated thread starter ends with my screwing up the mojo by mocking Bruntlett, and by letting the pope leave. Next up.