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IGT 4/23, Mets at Gnats (and forum meeting ...

KC Apr 23 2008 05:28 PM

... hopefully) Reyes, SS Castillo, 2B Wright, 3B Beltran, CF Church, RF Delgado, 1B Pagan, LF Schneider, C Santana, P Lopez, 2B Guzman, SS Zimmerman, 3B Johnson, 1B Kearns, RF Milledge, CF Pena, LF Nieves, C Redding, P

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 05:38 PM

so willie is willing to "diss" delgado by moving him down to 6th but is unwilling to do the same by continuing the successful experiment of putting Castillo 8th?

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 05:39 PM

How or why is Milledge wearing number 42? It's not Jackie Robinson day anymore. WTF?

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 05:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2008 05:52 PM

They're retiring the number in the new Washington ballpark tonight.

metirish Apr 23 2008 05:46 PM

I hope one of our crew make their way down behind home plate and beat the shit out of the wanker wearing the Yankee cap and the dumb shades.....

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 06:00 PM

Maybe they did, because he's wearing a Nats cap now.

metirish Apr 23 2008 06:14 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Maybe they did, because he's wearing a Nats cap now. I just saw that , nice work guys.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2008 06:24 PM

Pathetic.

Gwreck Apr 23 2008 06:27 PM

Anyone else notice that the camera angles are all off on the SNY broadcast? All the infield shots are WAY too high.

KC Apr 23 2008 06:31 PM

The Mets' bat angles are off too.

metirish Apr 23 2008 06:35 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pathetic. I know and the team sucks too.

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 06:37 PM

Reyes swings at the first pitch, after Redding walks the 8th and 9th hitters. <sigh>

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2008 06:47 PM

Gwreck wrote: Anyone else notice that the camera angles are all off on the SNY broadcast? All the infield shots are WAY too high. I was gonna remark I couldn't make out the arc of cut-out grass to the inside of first base. Watching the Mets hit these days is excruciating. Would somebody please bash one off the fence?

seawolf17 Apr 23 2008 06:47 PM

Hagin and Howie are saying that their both is as high as the upper deck is at Shea... I wonder if the camera wells are in weird locations also. I don't remember weird angles during the ESPN season opener, though.

metirish Apr 23 2008 06:50 PM

Not to jump on the bandwagon here but when Church made that bare handed catch SNY had one replay at an odd angle , at least I wondered at the time why they didn't show it from other angles because it looked like the ball skipped on the grass.

Grote15 Apr 23 2008 06:51 PM

Hi! It's the ever cheerful grote15....I got slammed in spring training for for suggestion Pagan might be the best option in LF..well..well. A team takes on the character of their manager. If Ray Walston in Fast Times at Ridgemont High had the Mets in his classroom he would still yell his classic line " Are you all on dope!" I am certainly not the only one that who wanted Willie's ass out of here pre-swoon 2007, post swoon 2007 and 2008. Carlos Delgado..Time waits for no mans bat speed. Now lets win some games in and send Shea out in style

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 06:53 PM

Our last 4 runs now over 3 consecutive games were all knocked in via infield grounders: 3 GOs plus an infield single

KC Apr 23 2008 06:53 PM

Ray King on in the sixth. C'mon ... tell me that doesn't make you laugh out loud a little in a tie ballgame. Ray King. Bring him on NOW!!!

KC Apr 23 2008 06:54 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2008 06:55 PM

Well, we got an infield hit off him already! I edited, I don't know why I put RBI.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2008 06:55 PM

Plus another

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 06:55 PM

Now our last [u:3f288766b9]Five[/u:3f288766b9] runs are courtesy of infield grounders

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 06:55 PM

The alternative is to rely on the opposition to throw it out of the infield.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 06:58 PM

its now 4-2 Mets thanks to another bad play by the nats (they're calling this one a hit)

Farmer Ted Apr 23 2008 06:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2008 06:58 PM

Ray King is wearing #42??? Did he grab the Jackie jersey by mistake?

KC Apr 23 2008 06:58 PM

Squib city, again.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 06:58 PM

SIX

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 07:00 PM

Pagan steals 2nd. Pagan steals 3rd.

TheOldMole Apr 23 2008 07:01 PM

Nats were playing away on Jackie night, so they're making up for it tonight with Jackie lite.

KC Apr 23 2008 07:02 PM

This is funny, 5-2. Watch Santana go yard off King.

TheOldMole Apr 23 2008 07:02 PM

We don't have to give back the runs that score on squibs.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 07:02 PM

a ball hit off the pitcher's glove scores a run

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 07:02 PM

Santana hits the hardest Met ball of the last 3 games with a big double, his 3rd of the year.

TheOldMole Apr 23 2008 07:03 PM

Solidest hit of the inning.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 07:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2008 07:12 PM

[u:699c3fa99a]Seven[/u:699c3fa99a] I should go back to see how we scored our final runs on Sunday night because the streak might be even longer. On Edit: The last run scored on Sunday was via a Church bloop. That was the last Met RBI that left the infield.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:08 PM

Ray "Burger" King not getting it done for the Nats. Nice to see an honest to God rally. I missed the Friday and Saturday games while traveling so I feel like it's been an eternity since I've seen them string a bunch of runs together.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2008 07:13 PM

Fman99 wrote: Ray "Burger" King not getting it done for the Nats. Nice to see an honest to God rally. I missed the Friday and Saturday games while traveling so I feel like it's been an eternity since I've seen them string a bunch of runs together. I've been watching them every day and experienced the same eternity. This kinda game is good to win, at least, and the stolen bases are really helping. But give me a few doubles.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 07:15 PM

Extra-base hits for the season: Delgado = 4 Santana = 3

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2008 07:17 PM

Schneider = 0

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 07:20 PM

So tonight the Yanx & CHiSox are the ESPN game and yet that's being blacked out in the NYC area - whereas the Met-Cubs game on Monday was broadcast on both. Not sure why the difference.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:23 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: So tonight the Yanx & CHiSox are the ESPN game and yet that's being blacked out in the NYC area - whereas the Met-Cubs game on Monday was broadcast on both. Not sure why the difference. On my cable package the ESPN HD channel is being coopted with ESPN News HD. We don't normally get that as a HD channel but it looks great in that format.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:34 PM

I'd love to see the Mets open it up here. Marlon up, 1st and 3rd, 2 out.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:34 PM

Dang. Popup. Duaner's getting the ball.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:36 PM

Ugh. Only April 23 and I'm totally tired of stupid Giuseppe and his hair restoral product. Maybe someone at SNY can sell some ad time to someone else.

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 07:36 PM

Marlon = Julio Franco 2008

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:39 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Marlon = Julio Franco 2008 I'm trying to be patient, but it's not my strong suit. I keep reminding myself that Jose "Stache" Valentin did a whole lot of nothing as a PH in 2006 for the first 5-6 weeks and ended up being a key guy for that team once he earned some playing time and found his rhythm.

TransMonk Apr 23 2008 07:39 PM

Triple Dee wrote: Marlon = Julio Franco 2008 I like to think of him as the Jose Valentin of 2006.

TransMonk Apr 23 2008 07:40 PM

jinx

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 07:42 PM

Where is Jose V?

mario25 Apr 23 2008 07:43 PM

Sanchez 1.2.3....nice to see

TransMonk Apr 23 2008 07:44 PM

="Triple Dee"]Where is Jose V? Per Rotoworld on 4/15: Jose Valentin's agent estimates that he is two to four weeks away from playing in minor league games.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 07:45 PM

]On my cable package the ESPN HD channel is being coopted with ESPN News HD Yeah, that's what I meant by 'blacked out' It's just that the same thing did NOT happen on Monday and I'm curious why. The rights for Monday night must differ from the Wednesday package. It can't be the teams since it's the teams playing are from same cities playing IN the same city.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 07:46 PM

="Triple Dee"]Where is Jose V? ="Rotoword on April 15th"]Jose Valentin's agent estimates that he is two to four weeks away from playing in minor league games. It's some encouraging news regarding the disks that are pinching a nerve in Valentin's neck. The 38-year-old was contemplating retirement if the injury needed surgery.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 07:46 PM

damnit transmonk! are you jinxing everyone tonight?

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:47 PM

TransMonk wrote: jinx I owe you a Coke.

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:49 PM

Wow close play on the SB by Castillo.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 07:51 PM

If Jesus Colome doesn't work out the Nationals are going to try one from Column B instead.

KC Apr 23 2008 07:57 PM

*groan*

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 07:57 PM

Good ABs by Wright and Beltran. Make these RPs work and eventually they are likely to make a mistake.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 08:02 PM

Church cracks it open!!

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 08:03 PM

Churchy with the rocket shot two run double. 7-2 Mets. A little more breathing room.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 08:03 PM

AN OUTFIELD RBI ... two of 'em even!!! The streak is broken.

TransMonk Apr 23 2008 08:03 PM

Nymr83 wrote: damnit transmonk! are you jinxing everyone tonight? Sorry, you can have the Coke Fman owes me.

Triple Dee Apr 23 2008 08:03 PM

It's Alive!

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 08:04 PM

KC wrote: *groan* Bah-Dum-Ching!

Fman99 Apr 23 2008 08:05 PM

Time for Billy Big-lip to close the door.

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 08:15 PM

woohoo, a win!

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2008 08:37 PM

Bily still hitless for the season: 26 batters faced, 2 walks, 24 outs.

AG/DC Apr 23 2008 09:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2008 09:17 PM

Nothing like a three run rally when you hit the ball a combined 100 feet. Nice to see the team get some spirit back (particulary Castillo, but Beltran too --- did you see him getting around on Colome?). Two notable not-running-hard moments stand out though --- Santana doubling when he should have been tripling and Churchie singling when he should have been doubling. All cylanders, men. All.

Valadius Apr 23 2008 09:13 PM

Good game. Fun game. Fun win. Nationals Park is BEAUTIFUL. I'll post some pics I took later. I'm sure our new stadium will kick its ass though. Metfairy came by in like the third inning and we talked a while. It was great seeing you, metfairy! We both could not find Edgy. Where the heck were you, man? And I wasn't able to say hello to bmfc1 because the usher wouldn't let me through. Even in the eighth inning. You had some nice seats. Additional highlights (and lowlights) of the evening: Coming out of the Metro, some random Mets fan gave me a fist bump. The fans behind me were extremely talkative. At one point, they said that Angel Pagan's name is an oxymoron and that he'd never get out of Mississippi alive. They also regarded the Milledge trade as horrible, because they miss Schneider's defense. The service at the concession stands was HORRIBLE. I've never had to wait that long at a sporting event for food. I must have spent two innings standing there on line. Overall, a good night, though I yelled myself hoarse.

AG/DC Apr 23 2008 09:21 PM

Service all over the park is sketchy. I had to ask four people where will call was, one of them twice. I stuck in my seats until the second Santana double, and then squeezed down to join G-FaFiF and bfmc1. Yeah that old usher was a stickler, so I called Greg up, he came up and met us, and then we went over another section and slid down. How about the black hole of $300 seats behind home plate? Nice job, Nats. Why don't we just agree that every night is forever henceforth Jackie Robinson Night.

Rockin' Doc Apr 23 2008 09:33 PM

AG/DC - "...Two notable not-running-hard moments stand out though --- Santana doubling when he should have been tripling and Churchie singling when he should have been doubling. " I'm a big proponent of players hustling and playing hard. I didn't see the game tonight, but just on the surface, I must say that I'm okay with Santana settling for a double rather than possibly injuring himself trying to make a triple. The Mets can't afford for Santana to pull a hamstring or otherwise injure himself by trying to impersonate Reyes.

Valadius Apr 23 2008 09:40 PM

He could have gotten a triple, but it might have been close. We'll never know, though.

Elster88 Apr 23 2008 09:46 PM

avi

Nymr83 Apr 23 2008 10:03 PM

With regard to Santana i don't need the pitcher with the gigantic salary sliding into 3rd going for a triple. With regard to church, i didnt see the play, they didnt mention it on the radio, at least last year they were usually good enough about mentioning things like "he should have been on 2nd" but i dont know yet with newbie hagan

AG/DC Apr 23 2008 10:12 PM

That's all fine and good. Accordign to bfmc, though, Alomar was angry with Santana.

Valadius Apr 23 2008 10:13 PM

Nationals Park. Beautiful stadium. The Capitol in left field. Pagan takes his base. Duaner gets ready to fire. Double-play duo... The best of buds. Reyes at the plate. David takes his cuts. Castillo singles. David stands in. Carlos waits his turn. Castillo steals second. Carlos comes to bat. David leads from first.

AG/DC Apr 23 2008 10:17 PM

The folks in the press booth could never get their act together at RFK. Two notable flubbarinos that indicated the same guys came over were (1) when Pagan batted and the scoreboard showed Mets - #18 - cf - Jay Payton. He was shown in his Orioles hat for a pitch or two; and (2) when Duaner Sanchez recorded his first two outs with the scoreboard describing him as Unknown RH. He should have worn a mask.

Valadius Apr 24 2008 04:17 AM

I noticed the "Unknown" flub. Didn't see the Pagan one.

themetfairy Apr 24 2008 05:16 AM

Val - it was great seeing you also. As well as Greg and bmfc1. The park IS beautiful! The ushers were crazed, though. At the end of the game we wanted to watch from the outfield so we'd be closer to the exit, and the ushers there wouldn't let us sit in the empty section out there! I can understand the concept of not letting fans upgrade to more expensive tix, but not to let people sit in the cheap seats at the very end of the game? Crazy! In any event, it was a lovely night to be at a game, and the good guys won :)

bmfc1 Apr 24 2008 05:43 AM

I was fortunate to enjoy the game with Greg (FAFIF). We also saw AG and friend as well as The Mets Fairy and family. I was sorry that we didn't see Vladius. Perhaps in August we can have a "meet-up" (how about a [u:e68a07d90f]MBTN [/u:e68a07d90f]book signing?). I think that Greg was impressed by the number of Mets fans. The pleasure of this game helped partially erase, somewhat, the pain from last September's games at RFK. As mentioned by AG, Sandy Alomar waived Santana to third on his first double (when was the last time you had to say "first double" for a pitcher?). Santana wasn't watching him, or apparently Milledge slowly fielding the ball, so he pulled up at second. Alomar walked to the base and stared at Santana who looked back and pointed to his head (perhaps saying that it was his mental mistake).

AG/DC Apr 24 2008 06:13 AM

Sorry, I'll beat down J-Cap, my thieving friend. He'll be at tonight's game also, so he can cough up the goods.

bmfc1 Apr 24 2008 06:27 AM

Sadly, I won't be able to be there tonight as the Blake Bengals take on the Paint Branch Panthers in JV baseball.

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2008 07:05 AM

Santana was hustling out of the box on his first double, he just got a bit indecisive around 2nd then didn't pick up the coach until it was too late and he had lost some of his momentum. He might have made it anyway had he re-kicked it into gear but pulling the parachute was probably the better idea by that point. Didn't see whether Church was busting it from the git go - but his ball got out there in a hurry and bounced right back to the OFer.

bmfc1 Apr 24 2008 07:23 AM

"Didn't see whether Church was busting it from the git go - but his ball got out there in a hurry and bounced right back to the OFer." My seats were just beyond 3B so I had a good view of both the ball and Church ("Churchy" to the locals). He was busting it--he wants to beat the Nationals very badly--and the ball, which was a real shot, bounced right back to the RF.

metirish Apr 24 2008 07:58 AM

I want to give credit to Gary Cohen for a brilliant call of Beltran scoring from first and Church going to third on the wild Zimmerman throw , he was in his element.

AG/DC Apr 24 2008 08:19 AM

Nats fans are simply clueless, boing Church his first time up. A couple of bims behind me were calling Schneider a traitor. The guy loved playing in Washington. He was sent packing. What are you gonna do?

AG/DC Apr 24 2008 08:33 AM

New stadium is looking like a failure. Attendance was 32,780, with a brand new park, a division rival with a lot of out-of-town and expatriate fans, and a lovely night. It was their largest crowd since opening night. When it's a sweltering August weekday game with Colorado, the place will be Deadsville.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2008 08:39 AM

The stadium will be more likely to succeed when there's a better team playing home games there.

AG/DC Apr 24 2008 08:47 AM

Yeah, sure, but even Pittsburgh got a few months of new-stadium novelty attendance boost while the team floundered, getting a 41% bump in patrons their first season, even as they won 10% fewer games. It may be obvious to you that a new stadium is more appealign when a team wins, but it wasn't so much to the DC government who dropped over a half billion tax payer buckaroonies on this place. Did I mentino my tax return?