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Good Golly Mista Ollie

Frayed Knot Apr 25 2008 07:06 AM

Certainly the planet's most frustrating pitcher to watch. I checked into his game logs expecting to find some huge difference in BAA between the opening innings and the later ones -- but it's not really there: Innings 1-3: 60 Plate Appearences, 11 hits Innings 4-6: 63 PAs, 15 hits and he's given up all of [u:549808b108]2 XBHs[/u:549808b108] all season (1 HR, 1 2B), one early, one later. But the run differential is just 2 in the first 3 innings vs 9 (7 while he was pitching plus 2 of his scoring later) in innings 4-6 and the real culprit turns out to be his Ks & BBs Innings 1-3: 16 K - 5 BBs Innings 4-6: 8 K - 11 BBs ... which is why he not only hasn't pitched past the 6th inning yet but has reached 6 full just once. Innings pitched in 5 starts: 6 5.2 4.1 5.2 5.2 In 3 of those games he's been pulled despite giving up no runs - twice in mid-inning. We're 2 - 3 in his five games. Fatigue? ... Brain-farts? ... Hot date on his mind? I dunno but it's something he/Rick have gotta figure out if he's ever going to be considered a front-end of the rotation starter.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2008 07:10 AM

I don't think I'll be heartbroken if he leaves next year via free agency. I'd be content to replace him with someone with less spectacular stuff but with better consistency.

Fman99 Apr 25 2008 07:11 AM

I haven't been able to watch real closely but I wonder if he's staying consistent in his arm slot. IIRC from last year he tended to get wild when he started to drop down and throw from more of a sidearm angle.

AG/DC Apr 25 2008 07:47 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't think I'll be heartbroken if he leaves next year via free agency. I'd be content to replace him with someone with less spectacular stuff but with better consistency. You hate the Trachsels until they leave you.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2008 08:03 AM

I don't hate Perez. I just don't think he's irreplaceable. And I haven't given Trachsel a second thought since he left the Mets. Are we supposed to be missing Steve Trachsel?

Mendoza Line Apr 25 2008 08:04 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: I checked into his game logs expecting to find some huge difference in BAA between the opening innings and the later ones ="Frayed Knot also"]the real culprit turns out to be his Ks & BBs One pitching stat that I'd like to see, in general, is OPS (or OPS+) against rather than BAA. If OPS+ is the standard by which hitting ability is measured, then it would make sense for it to be the standard by which ability to prevent hitting is measured.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2008 08:05 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2008 08:08 AM

As said above only 2 XBH's all year tho lotsa baserunners, so whatever the number is would be an Unusual split of OBA/SLG

Willets Point Apr 25 2008 08:07 AM

I heart Oliver Perez.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2008 08:08 AM

Mendoza Line wrote: One pitching stat that I'd like to see, in general, is OPS (or OPS+) against rather than BAA. If OPS+ is the standard by which hitting ability is measured, then it would make sense for it to be the standard by which ability to prevent hitting is measured. Top secret sneak preview of an upcoming UMDB feature

Triple Dee Apr 25 2008 08:13 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't hate Perez. I just don't think he's irreplaceable. And I haven't given Trachsel a second thought since he left the Mets. Are we supposed to be missing Steve Trachsel? It depends on which Trachsel we are talking about. Trax gave excellent value to the Mets in his first three seasons. The rest were an exercise in mediocrity. However most fans remember him for his gutless performance in Game 3 NLCS 2006. On edit: I meant his 2nd-4th seasons.

AG/DC Apr 25 2008 08:32 AM

I'm just trying to personify " less spectacular stuff but with better consistency." And, you know, stir it up. It's Friday.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2008 08:38 AM

Maybe a Rick Reed type? If the Mets replaced Oliver Perez with someone like Rick Reed, I don't think they'd be any worse off. A little less fun to watch, maybe, but they'd probably win as many games. And I'm not saying this is something they SHOULD do. Just that, if it happens that way, I won't be upset.

AG/DC Apr 25 2008 08:42 AM

The All-Time Mets Steady Boring Unspecacular Pitching Staff Steve Trachsel Jack Fisher Rick Reed Ed Lynch Mark Clark

attgig Apr 25 2008 01:24 PM

so, going by that... ollie should be a reliever? he can't maintain his concentration over many innings...maybe he should go to the pen. the heilman would be screaming for a start there.