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Benjamin Grimm May 02 2008 08:38 AM

Preston Wilson is Mookie's nephew/stepson. Jesus Alou is Moises' uncle. John Maine is the son of Kevin Maine. Tug McGraw is the brother of Hank McGraw. Roberto Alomar is the son of Sandy and the brother of Sandy Jr. ============================================== And going outside the organization... Hubie Brooks is the cousin of Donnie Moore. Wayne Garrett is the brother of Adrian. Doc Gooden is the uncle of Gary Sheffield. Mike Maddux is the brother of Greg. Brian Bannister is the son of Floyd. What else do we have?

AG/DC May 02 2008 08:46 AM

Pete Falcone is the nephew of Joe Pignatano. Mel Rojas is the cousin of Moises Alou, and the nephew of Felipe Alou. Tom Glavine is the brother of Mike Glavine. Mike Piazza is the brother of Tom Piazza.

metirish May 02 2008 08:49 AM

Edgardo Alfonzo is the brother of Edgar Alfonzo.

AG/DC May 02 2008 08:57 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 02 2008 10:37 AM

Preston Wilson is the son of Richard Wilson. Prentice Redman is the brother of Tike Redman (if you ever decide to include spring training Mets, anyhow). Gil Hodges is the father of some guy who supposedly roomed with Ron Hodges in the minors. According to some poster at UMDB andTopps 1979 Baseball Card # 172, Mike Bruhert is the son-in-law of Gil Hodges. His bio at Baseball-Reference.com, though, says he's married to Rosemary Petrillo, so that may have changed.

AG/DC May 02 2008 09:04 AM

Matt Galante is father of Matt Galante Jr.

AG/DC May 02 2008 09:11 AM

Jeff Wilpon, I think, is the son of Fred Wilpon. Lorinda DeRoulet is the daughter of Joan Whitney Payson. if you start including the other trustees and directors in there, there's a lot of relativity with other Wilpons and Katzes and such.

Fman99 May 02 2008 10:35 AM

Bobby Valentine's father-in-law is 1951 goat Ralph Branca.

mario25 May 02 2008 11:42 AM

Darryl Strawberry Sr. father of NBA'er DJ Strawberry

AG/DC May 02 2008 12:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 02 2008 12:23 PM

See what I mean by keeping it in the family?

G-Fafif May 02 2008 12:01 PM

Oliver Perez probably believes Billy Wagner to be a real son of a...

Benjamin Grimm May 02 2008 12:14 PM

Yeah, I know I won't be extending it to the NBA. And no Nancy Lopez, either. But I figure if the other half of the relationship are already in the UMDB as a farmhand or an opponent, then it's no trouble at all to include it. That means that Felipe Alou is in, but D.J. Strawberry and Ralph Branca are out.

soupcan May 02 2008 12:34 PM

Larry Bowa is the uncle of Nick Johnson

TheOldMole May 02 2008 12:34 PM

Endy Chavez is the brother of Ender Chavez.

TheOldMole May 02 2008 12:37 PM

Original Met Gus Bell is the father of Buddy Bell, grandfather of David Bell, and grandfather of Mike Bell. He's no relation to Heath Bell, but Heath is the cousin of Drake Bell of Drake and Josh.

AG/DC May 02 2008 12:38 PM

Well, if you insist... Mo Vaughn, cousin of Greg Vaughn. Ken Boyer, brother of Clete Boyer. Joe Torre, brother of Frank Torre. Yogi Berra, father of Dale Berra. Jeff McKnight, son of Jim McKnight. Mike Bacsik, son of Michael James Bacsik. Gary Marshall, Jr., son of Gary Marshall. Gus Bell, father of Buddy Bell, grandfather of David Bell, and grandfather of Mike Bell. Jose Cardenal, cousin of Bert Campaneris (career American Leaguer, but played against the Mets in the 1973 World Series). This is starting to feel like a classic SJR data dump, so I'll stop here.

AG/DC May 02 2008 02:39 PM

Todd Hundley, son of Randy Hundley. Orlando Hernandez, half-brother of Livan Hernandez. Josias Manzanillo, brother of Ravelo Manzanillo. Ruddy Lugo, brother of Julio Lugo. Eddie Murray, brother of Rich Murray. Ruben Gotay, nephew of Julio Gotay. John Milner, cousin of Eddie Milner. Dick Schofield, son of Ducky Schofield. Uncle of Jayson Werth. Mel Stottlemyer, father of Todd Stottlemyer. Jose Valentin, brother of Javier Valentin. Todd Zeile, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson of John Adams.

AG/DC May 02 2008 10:13 PM

Sandy Alomar is the father of a bad decision.

AG/DC May 02 2008 10:25 PM

In more seriousness, Bobby Wine's son Robby, I see at the UMDB, had four anti-Met at-bats in 1987. Dave LaRoche is the father of Adam LaRoche.

MFS62 May 03 2008 05:41 AM

And Mets catcher Gustavo Molina is NOT related to the three Molina brothers who are Major League catchers - Yadier, Benji and Jose. Later

vtmet May 03 2008 05:59 AM

Victor Zambrano: Born in Venezuela; Throws Righty; Switch hitter (good hitter, by the way); Carlos Zambrano; Also born in Venezuela; Also throws Righty; Also a switch hitter (and one of the best hitting pitchers in the NL); Unfortunately: Not related & the Mets Zambrano couldn't consistently pitch like the Cubs Zambrano...

AG/DC May 05 2008 10:36 AM

Stephen Puhl, son of Terry Puhl.

Benjamin Grimm May 05 2008 11:43 AM

Thanks everyone for all the info. I've entered a few of the relationships into the database, and will get to the others as time allows. Some examples: John Maine Moises Alou Tug McGraw Mookie Wilson

AG/DC May 05 2008 11:54 AM

Hey now, you don't want to sanitize Mel Rojas out of that Alou family tree.

Benjamin Grimm May 05 2008 11:57 AM

No, of course not. I'll get to him.

Benjamin Grimm May 05 2008 02:15 PM

[quote="AG/DC":3raoyogg] Mel Rojas is the cousin of Moises Alou, and the nephew of Felipe Alou. [/quote:3raoyogg] He's the nephew of Felipe, but not of Jesus and Matty? Does that mean he's the son of Felipe's wife's brother or sister?

AG/DC May 05 2008 02:20 PM

Well, at the time of the post, I was working in a Met-only context. Hell, I live in a Met-only context.

Frayed Knot May 05 2008 02:34 PM

IIRC, the Felipe Alou family tree has a lot of branches and a lot of the connections got a bit complicated.

AG/DC May 09 2008 09:18 AM

If draft choices ever go into the UMDB, then 2007 draftee Glen Johnson can be noted as HoJo's son. You'd think HoJo would be straight with them about his son's signability and they wouldn't have drafted him. That kid has been nothing but trouble for the Mets.

AG/DC May 13 2008 09:58 PM

There's the Cornejos, though I don't think the Mets have ever faced Nate. And here you go, Gil Hodges, Jr., still waiting for a memory.

Benjamin Grimm May 14 2008 12:36 PM

Nope, no Nate in the UMDB. But I've now added the Gil Sr./Gil Jr. relationship.

AG/DC May 14 2008 12:42 PM

More than one source has Joe Pignatano "related to" his tomato successor John Franco, but I can't find the specifics of the relationship

Chad Ochoseis May 14 2008 01:36 PM

David Segui, son of relief pitcher and Ball Four bit player Diego Segui.

AG/DC May 16 2008 12:14 PM

I think this guy is a member of the Alfonzo clan, Edgar and Edgardo's brother, and a current scout for the team.

AG/DC Oct 01 2008 11:15 AM

George Stone, cousin of Cecil Upshaw.

AG/DC Oct 02 2008 06:21 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 07:10 AM

Darren Oliver, son of Bob Oliver, who played three National League games in his life, one an old fashioned beatdown of the Mets, where he came in as a late-game sub for Roberto Clemente. Also playing for the Bucs that day was a pitcher named Tommie Wayne Sisk, who doesn't appear to be related to Doug.

Fman99 Oct 02 2008 06:38 AM

I was poking around Baseball Reference and noticed that former Mets announcing bore Fran Healy had an uncle who was also a mediocre MLB catcher. Named Francis X. Healy, played for the NY Giants and the Cardinals in the early 1930's.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2008 03:39 PM

Len Dykstra's uncle, NHL star Tony Leswick. Len Dystra's great-uncle, Jack "Newsy" Leswick, who drowned in Winnipeg "on or about" August 7, 1934. He got his nickname because "he always had news to tell." Still looking for a picture of Lenny's grandfather, "Pistol" Pete Leswick.

Edgy DC Nov 16 2008 03:53 PM

Here he is: http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/Leg ... to=2#photo

Edgy DC Dec 18 2008 07:36 PM

Matt Lawton, brother of Marcus Lawton. Also, I notice you don't have the Leiters linked, or Mel Rojas linked to the Alou clan.

Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 11:47 AM

Ike Davis, son of Ron Davis.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2009 10:08 AM

Alex Cora, brother of Joey Cora. Jonh Olerud, cousin of Dale Sveum.

TransMonk Apr 17 2009 10:14 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":2g3eben4] Jonh Olerud, cousin of Dale Sveum.[/quote:2g3eben4] Had no idea.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2009 10:25 AM

Me neither until I did some digging today. The nerve of them saying I'm not a productive employee.

Fman99 May 13 2009 01:32 PM

[quote="soupcan":2x9m9bh0]Larry Bowa is the uncle of Nick Johnson[/quote:2x9m9bh0] I just read this again today and had forgotten that this was the case.

Edgy DC May 26 2009 06:44 PM

Pedro Martinez, brother of Ramon Martinez and cousin of Denny Bautista.

MFS62 May 27 2009 08:04 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":10liolfc]Matt Lawton, brother of Marcus Lawton. Also, I notice you don't have the Leiters linked, or Mel Rojas linked to the Alou clan.[/quote:10liolfc] Mel Rojas was the spawn of the Devil. I would hate to guilt-by-associate the Alous by bringing that up, Edgy. Later

Edgy DC May 27 2009 08:41 AM

If the UMDB were to limit itself to factory-approved True and Beloved Mets, it would become rather pointless.

Benjamin Grimm May 27 2009 08:45 AM

I appreciate your postings to this thread, Edgy. One of these days I'm going to have to sit down and go through them all and get them posted.

metirish May 27 2009 08:51 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":23w2lhyc]Pedro Martinez, brother of Ramon Martinez and cousin of Denny Bautista.[/quote:23w2lhyc] Ramon had himself a fine career and a few really good seasons.

MFS62 May 27 2009 11:10 AM

[quote="Edgy DC":38r78gw6]If the UMDB were to limit itself to factory-approved True and Beloved Mets, it would become rather pointless.[/quote:38r78gw6] There I go getting obscure again. (Slapping my own wrist) This thread was about relatives of Mets players, and I was trying to make a joke about Mel Rojas being the offspring of Satan. Missed big time, I guess. Memo to self : more obvious humor. Memo to JohnCougar: This one deserves one (you know what I mean) Later

Edgy DC May 27 2009 11:13 AM

I understood the joke.

Edgy DC Sep 11 2009 08:17 AM Re: Relativity

José Cardenal, cousin of Bert Campaneris.

Edgy DC Sep 18 2009 08:04 AM Re: Relativity

Padres' rookie Ryan Webb, son of Hank Webb. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/ ... lay-short/

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 18 2009 08:23 AM Re: Relativity

[quote="Edgy DC"]Padres' rookie Ryan Webb, son of Hank Webb. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/ ... lay-short/

Wow!

Edgy DC Sep 18 2009 08:27 AM Re: Relativity

Yeah, God help those guys that wait until their late thirties to have kids. Must be exhausting.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 18 2009 08:47 AM Re: Relativity

Hank Webb is one of those names that go back for me. Him and Chuck Taylor were like the first Mets I feel like I discovered on my own.