May 08 2008 12:04 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 08 2008 12:26 PM
Well, one of the things I most dislike about Nationals Park is the Glass Houses façade.
Baseball and glass mix not.
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| AG/DC May 08 2008 11:46 AM |
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I don't know what to conclude, but "new ballpark effects are a lie" is a fair (though not necessarily accurate) inference to draw.
Another possible conclusion: having the best record in baseball supresses attendance.
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| soupcan May 08 2008 11:52 AM |
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Sorry - I thought this was a 'Bad Billy Joel Albums' thread.
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| AG/DC May 08 2008 12:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 08 2008 12:26 PM |
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Well, one of the things I most dislike about Nationals Park is the Glass Houses façade.
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| Willets Point May 08 2008 12:12 PM |
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A Washington ballpark should have a marble facade with big columns and arches.
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| bmfc1 May 08 2008 12:24 PM |
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My favorite Billy Joel album. It has "Summer, Highland Falls."
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| AG/DC May 08 2008 12:28 PM |
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Can you imagine what a good architect could do with a neoclassical ballpark?
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| Fman99 May 08 2008 12:41 PM Re: Turnstiles |
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:sigh: Good thing our new ballpark isn't large enough (by 4-5K seats) to accomodate this year's average attendance. Dopes.
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| Mr. Zero May 08 2008 01:14 PM |
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I'm sure ticket prices will more than make up for the attendance gap.
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| SteveJRogers May 08 2008 02:09 PM |
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Oversaturation of new ballparks probably did in the new ballpark "spike" just as much as the quality of the teams in said new ballparks.
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| G-Fafif May 08 2008 02:16 PM |
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The fairer metric is how the Nats are drawing in 2008 versus 2007 at RFK. Lots of crowds in the teens in April '07. More in the 20s this year, with a rise for popular visitors Mets and Cubs. Last-placeness probably going to take the edge off novelty factor after a fashion.
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| AG/DC May 08 2008 02:35 PM |
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The average attendance in April of last year at RFK was 21,292.
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| Frayed Knot May 08 2008 02:37 PM |
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So you believe there'd be time for meditation in cathedrals of their own?
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| Benjamin Grimm May 08 2008 02:39 PM |
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What's really amazing is that there are only four teams left in the NL that can be said to have "old" stadiums.
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| SteveJRogers May 08 2008 04:12 PM |
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I haven't seen anything about Toronto. I know Minny has one coming in a couple of years. Also in this area the Islanders are due for a new stadium as well. No clue about the Nets, looks like that situation is up in the air, but pretty soon just MSG will be the only place in the NYC metro area (counting the Meadowlands, Newark and LI) that will be built before 2009!
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| themetfairy May 08 2008 04:40 PM |
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[url=http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/FutureBallparks.htm]Ballparks of Baseball Lists Upcoming Parks[/url]
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| seawolf17 May 08 2008 05:34 PM |
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Hands down, it's the best Billy Joel album. Maybe "Songs From the Attic" gets a few points, but it's a live album, so it doesn't count. Turnstiles has great songs, top to bottom. (Except maybe "James," which is boring.) "Summer Highland Falls" and "Angry Young Man" are all you need. Classic.
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| Willets Point May 08 2008 08:54 PM |
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"Songs From the Attic" is the best album because it gives the full-band treatment that the songs deserve. I have a soft spot for "Glass Houses" if only because it was the first record I owned, and by record I mean vinyl LP.
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| Nymr83 May 08 2008 10:13 PM |
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what were the Mets average attendances the last few years both overall and this early in the season? there might be a "last chance to see shea" effect too.
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| AG/DC May 08 2008 10:23 PM |
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The 2007 Mets averaged 44,525 through April 30 and 42,487 through May 7.
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| DocTee May 08 2008 11:29 PM |
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I thought the Rays had a 30 year (!) lease at Tropicana??
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| TransMonk May 09 2008 12:30 AM |
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Skydome opened in 1990 if I recall correctly...I was on a high school trip to Toronto the year it opened. It's still pretty "new" in terms of having the roof and all. Although, I think all of those retractable roof stadiums designed in the '90s already look about as dated as grunge rock sounds.
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| Benjamin Grimm May 09 2008 05:20 AM |
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Kansas City and Anaheim also still have "legacy" stadiums.
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| Triple Dee May 09 2008 05:37 AM |
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I thought it was older than 1990 too. It turns out it is, but not by much - the Blue Jays moved into the Skydome midway through the 1989 season.
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| themetfairy May 09 2008 05:47 AM |
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Skydome a/k/a The Rogers Centre [url=http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/al/RogersCentre.htm]opened June 5, 1989[/url].
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| G-Fafif May 09 2008 04:42 PM |
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Today's [url=http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2008/5/9/3682764.html]Flashback[/url] inspired a little by this discussion of attendance and some by the thread on the 25th anniversary of the first blossoming of Strawberry (and mostly by the general malaise in Metsland caused by our pretty good team not being great). Thought resident 1983heads might enjoy it.
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| AG/DC May 09 2008 08:08 PM |
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The Crane Pool Resident 1983-Heads are having our annual chapter meeting tonight in my bed.
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| Benjamin Grimm May 10 2008 04:48 AM |
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Oh.
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| G-Fafif May 10 2008 09:56 AM |
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Sorry, we don't make housecalls.
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| Rockin' Doc May 10 2008 05:34 PM |
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AG/DC - "Baseball and glass mix not."
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| AG/DC May 10 2008 10:52 PM |
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No doubt.
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