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IGT 8//20 Mets vs. Nationals

cooby Aug 20 2005 07:23 PM

Guess everybody's at the game getting interviewed for the big HBO Production. 0-0 bottom of first, Pedro has 2 K's

Zvon Aug 20 2005 07:27 PM Re: IGT 8//20 Mets vs. Nationals

="cooby"]Guess everybody's at the game getting interviewed for the big HBO Production. 0-0 bottom of first, Pedro has 2 K's lol. whoops. Then this belongs here. ____________________________________________________ time to make the Nats cry again

Zvon Aug 20 2005 07:29 PM

so many abrieviations I must learn. :oops:

Zvon Aug 20 2005 07:40 PM

if I was the ump, Id make hernandez take his earrings off. :wink:

Zvon Aug 20 2005 07:44 PM

CASTROOOOOOOOOOO

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 07:46 PM

Zvon wrote: CASTROOOOOOOOOOO Rough Translation: Ramon Castro, the starting catcher today for the Metropolitans of New York, has hit a home run. The hit scored three runs. The Mets now have a 3-0 lead.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 07:48 PM

Reyes adds a 2-run homer, 5-0 in the second

Zvon Aug 20 2005 07:50 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Reyes adds a 2-run homer, 5-0 in the second reverse translated: REYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Zvon Aug 20 2005 08:02 PM

so,....... what do ya do around here during a laffer?

Bret Sabermetric Aug 20 2005 08:02 PM

Wright launches a 3 run job, KOs Livan.

seawolf17 Aug 20 2005 08:03 PM

We laff, and we laff, and we laff... and we try to figure out how to split up only ten Schaefer points.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 08:03 PM

It's about time Reyes homered. Good work guys, knock Livan out early!

duan Aug 20 2005 08:08 PM

here's what i want, them to retain their patience so that the washington bullpen is exhausted by tomorrow; AND to get Jacobs the last inning or two (if the score stays similar)

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 08:15 PM

We got out of dinner just in time to hear Wright's homer on the car ride home. Excellent (doing my best C. Montgomery Burns imitation....).

Zvon Aug 20 2005 08:15 PM

seawolf17 wrote: We laff, and we laff, and we laff... and we try to figure out how to split up only ten Schaefer points. lol. Ill drink to that Duan. So there must be a good story behind you being a Met fan,huh?

duan Aug 20 2005 08:21 PM

not that interesting really - lived in NYC for 2 summers and KNEW I couldn't like the skankees

Edgy DC Aug 20 2005 08:23 PM

Pedro stay focused. Jacobs stay loose.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 08:32 PM

And Mr. Steroid-Humongoid-Head strikes out to end the top of the fifth.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 08:40 PM

Just checking in to say I am pleased.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 08:45 PM

Seaver Quote of the Night: "Stop the presses! Pedro's given up counts of 2-0 and 3-1 now, which we haven't seen all night!"

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 08:47 PM

="Valadius"]Seaver Quote of the Night: "Stop the presses! Pedro's given up counts of 2-0 and 3-1 now, which we haven't seen all night!" Reminds me on the LLWS game I was watching earlier. Pitcher for the Cali team had thrown a whopping total of 6 balls through 4 innings. He wound up becoming the second kid in LLWS history (1st american) to get all 18 men he retired by way of the K

Valadius Aug 20 2005 08:53 PM

In case anyone missed it, David Wright passed Cliff Floyd as team leader in RBIs, now with 78 to Clifford's 76.

MiniKnight Aug 20 2005 09:00 PM

I was just about to say, "When was the last time the Expos scored a run?" And there's my answer....

Valadius Aug 20 2005 09:02 PM

CUT DANNY GRAVES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 09:06 PM

Graves gets yanked with one out and the bases loaded after giving up 2 runs. Ugh! Edited to reflect the run that I missed.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 09:04 PM

Valadius wrote: CUT DANNY GRAVES NOW!!!!!!!!!!! agreed. And to think i thought he could take Loopers spot when we 1st got him.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 09:15 PM

Graves and Koo are DONE. DONE!!!!!!!!!! I've had enough headaches with them.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:16 PM

Fuckshit! A 2-out double off of Mr. Koo makes it 8-4. Now Heilman hits a batter to reload the bases. Sheesh!

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:17 PM

RHP Danny Graves Designated for Assignment, Mets recall Heath Bell from AAA Norfolk. Is that too much to ask? Please Omar. Pretty please?

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:17 PM

And a 2-run single by Schneider makes it 8-6. Damn!

Zvon Aug 20 2005 09:17 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Fuckshit! A 2-out double off of Mr. Koo makes it 8-4. Now Heilman hits a batter to reload the bases. Sheesh! they are lettin it slip away................

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:18 PM

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 09:18 PM

Hey Danny, take Williams with you.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:19 PM

The fucking 6-run inning is finally over. Washington is back in this thing. Sheesh!

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 09:20 PM

For a "laffer", I don't find this the least bit funny.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 09:20 PM

Danny Graves and Dae Sung Koo DFA Steve Trachsel activated and recalled and Heath Bell recalled Don't be a bonehead, Omar. You know what you must do.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 09:21 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: For a "laffer", I don't find this the least bit funny. lol. at least im sittin up watchin now

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:22 PM

Zvon wrote: ="Rockin' Doc"]For a "laffer", I don't find this the least bit funny. lol. at least im sittin up watchin now I was quite content with thinking the Mets had an easy win and devoting my time to the Giants preseason game.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 09:23 PM

Nothing to add. Graves the biggest and most pointless mistake of the season.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 09:25 PM

I was really planning on spending a very boring night here. I really don't need this sort of excitment. Graves sins were the walks. Neither hit was anything, Reyes's E was laziness and Diaz is a real big liability in RF. Just based on the innings I've seen that's at least 5 balls he's missed or misplayed since his recall that Cameron catches w/o mussing his hair (well, if he had hair).

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 09:35 PM

Come on Castro.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 09:37 PM

Oddly, by "allowing" the Nats to close the gap we're forcing them to use their pen (ours also) faster than they would have had the game stayed a rout. Normally that's a bad tradeoff although tomorrow's starter failed Yanqui scum Esteban Loazia is starting on short rest and Washington's long reliever (John Halama) was used today.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:37 PM

The Mets fail to score in the 7th. Pedro and Rick Peterson are probably rethinking that conversation they had after the 6th....

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:38 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Oddly, by "allowing" the Nats to close the gap we're forcing them to use their pen (ours also) faster than they would have had the game stayed a rout. Normally that's a bad tradeoff although tomorrow's starter failed Yanqui scum Esteban Loazia is starting on short rest and Washington's long reliever (John Halama) was used today. Lets just hope our own bullpen gets through this...

Zvon Aug 20 2005 09:42 PM

="OlerudOwned"] ="Frayed Knot"]Oddly, by "allowing" the Nats to close the gap we're forcing them to use their pen (ours also) faster than they would have had the game stayed a rout. Normally that's a bad tradeoff although tomorrow's starter failed Yanqui scum Esteban Loazia is starting on short rest and Washington's long reliever (John Halama) was used today. Lets just hope our own bullpen gets through this...

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:43 PM

Heilman recovers with a 1-2-3 8th. Looper to pitch the 9th?

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:45 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 09:49 PM

Nothing to see here. go aaron

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 09:47 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 09:52 PM

Diaz leads off the eighth with a double. We need some insurance runs guys. Edited to correct inning.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:48 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 09:52 PM

]Heil Heilman! (something tells me that isnt going to be catching on anytime soon...) No - we've already argued about Nazi jokes on this forum

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:48 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: No - we've already argued about Nazi jokes on this forum <g> Understandable. Should I just take that down?

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:49 PM

Nah - it's fine.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:50 PM

Eh, too late. Whatever.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 09:52 PM

some horrendous strike calls here. Reyes had to swing at that outside one. It was right where the other called strike was. And that was hi on offerman. GGGGGGGGGggggggggrrrrrr

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 09:55 PM

The Mets fail to add to the lead in the 8th. Fasten your seatbelts folks - here goes nothing.

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 09:55 PM

No insurnace tonight.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:58 PM

C'mon Looper, C'mon Looper.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:00 PM

Williams catches the fly ball - 1 out.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:00 PM

Can't believe this got so out of hand. C'mon Loopy. Let's finish them off then go get a beer.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:01 PM

No baserunners = no tying run to the plate Remember that Braden and recite it like a mantra

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:01 PM

Anderson makes the play on a grounder for the second out.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:01 PM

Breathing a little easier.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:02 PM

I pray that Looper gets Church to make an out.

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 10:02 PM

Just one more out to go. Come on Looper!

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:03 PM

No breathing easy until after the third out! Now there's a runner at first. Mookie's kid at bat.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:04 PM

Tying runs on base...

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:04 PM

Preston Wilson singles. Runners on the corners. Oy!

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:04 PM

Looper drives me loopy!!!!!

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 10:05 PM

This is getting way too exciting. Enough already. Put an end to this damn game.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:06 PM

Got to pay your dues if you wanna sign the blues and you know it don't come easy -- R. Starkey

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:06 PM

o m g

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:06 PM

And the Mets blow an 8-0 lead.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:07 PM

Damn! A double ties the game. FUCKSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:07 PM

SHITFUCKKKKK

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:07 PM

SONOFABITCH

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:07 PM

I hate baseball, goddamn it.

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:08 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 10:09 PM

crap

MiniKnight Aug 20 2005 10:08 PM

Martinez goes out of the game with an 8-0 lead in the 7th inning and look at what happens.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:10 PM

this costs Pedro a sure win. that bites.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:10 PM

And the inning finally ends. Let's end this thing in the bottom of the 9th, shall we?

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:11 PM

OK, time for someone to be a hero here.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:12 PM

Mets have tied a team record for largest blown lead.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:13 PM

The Mets have tied a franchise record for the biggest lead ever blown. Shameful. When we were up 8-0, I was thinking of Frayed Knot's comment July 4th - "And we shall beat Livan....And it shall be a good win." And I kept waiting to be able to type that in this thread, to celebrate the win. Fuckshit!

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:14 PM

"I have a very bad feeling about this." --- Luke Skywalker

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:17 PM

And we're on to extra innings. A game even a dog shouldn't be forced to watch.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:17 PM

Dear Wille, I hate you. Sincerely, J. Dickshot

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 10:19 PM

And extra innings it will be. Scored tied at 8 after nine innings.

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:20 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Dear Wille, I hate you. Sincerely, J. Dickshot Dear J., Next time, don't call me WWSB. Sincerely, W. Randolph.

MiniKnight Aug 20 2005 10:21 PM

Today's Mets scoreboard is brought to you by Puke-a-Rama Barf Bags.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:24 PM

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:24 PM

I wish Cornelius would use two hands.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:28 PM

Beltran catches the fly to end the top of the 10th. Whew!

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:28 PM

Johnson hits one 408 feet and gives Elster a heart attack.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:29 PM

You can all exhale now.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:29 PM

I was having such a nice night.

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:31 PM

I was supposed to leave at ten. I'm going to have to guzzle that much faster now.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:31 PM

We gotta win this soon. The bullpen situation is not favoring us.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:33 PM

Gerald Williams: seasoned pro ... send 'em

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:33 PM

lmao@oleruds pic. I blame myself. i jinxed them when i said this was a laffer

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 10:33 PM

I hope Kaz comes up big here.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 10:34 PM

Again, this is all Graves and Koo's fault. I'm feeling sick...

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:35 PM

="Elster88"]I hope Kaz comes up big here. (Prove me wrong, Kazuo.)

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:37 PM

Koo is on the majors roster. Graves is on the majors roster. Bell is on Norfolk's roster. Ring is on Norfolk's roster. nmx, mfvdxfsrdex fcg f vgf ^ Can you guess what that is? If your answer was, "GYC's head smashing against his keyboard in a repetitive rythm," you were correct.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:38 PM

Woodie to PH, it'll all be in Padilla's hands if we don't score here.

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:38 PM

Woody! C'mon, Woody, pull through.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:38 PM

Reyes walks! An appropriate time for it?

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 10:39 PM

Reyes walks to move the winning run into scoring position with 2 outs. Let's end this thing NOW!!!

Valadius Aug 20 2005 10:39 PM

Reyes walks. You don't see that every day.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:40 PM

Cheap pun alert, We need Woody to come up big.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 10:40 PM

DUMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

WOoOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

Woody!

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

WHO'S GOT A WOODIE?!?!!?!

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

Relief. Not joy, relief.

MiniKnight Aug 20 2005 10:41 PM

It never should have been this exciting.

duan Aug 20 2005 10:42 PM

*whew* that was ridiculous.

TheOldMole Aug 20 2005 10:42 PM

Hey, it's a win.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:42 PM

Wow. Now let's all have sex.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:42 PM

that was big, but watch......all we'll here about is how the bullpen blew it.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 10:44 PM

Are we allowed to hand out negative Schaefer's points? Because that's what would solve our "how do we reward all these players" quandary.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2005 10:44 PM

" ... AND THEY WIN THE DAMN THING 9 TO 8"

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:44 PM

Zvon wrote: that was big, but watch......all we'll here about is how the bullpen blew it. And that's all we should hear about. The fact that imgrates like Koo and Graves are on our roster is pathetic. The Mets, as on organization, should be ashamed of themselves.

Rockin' Doc Aug 20 2005 10:46 PM

The Mets pitching tonight was straight out of the movies. The Good The Bad The Ugly

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:47 PM

Not for nothing, but Koo was put in a situation where the result he wound up with was the minimum expected. How about props he deserves for the big whiff of Johnson.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:48 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Wow. Now let's all have sex. Um, not MK, ok?

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:50 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]Wow. Now let's all have sex. Um, not MK, ok? Why not, everyone loves a stress relief orgy

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:51 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Not for nothing, but Koo was put in a situation where the result he wound up with was the minimum expected. How about props he deserves for the big whiff of Johnson. Koo has done pretty much nothing at all in the Majors other than against the Yanks.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:51 PM

OO - You do realize that MK is 9 years old, right?

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 10:54 PM

="ScarletKnight41"]OO - You do realize that MK is 9 years old, right? Kidding, dont worry

Valadius Aug 20 2005 10:55 PM

It's not like Koo is some 25-year-old kid that has potential. He's 37 years old!!!!!!!

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 20 2005 10:56 PM

LOL OO

Johnny Dickshot Aug 20 2005 10:55 PM

Thnis forum contains material inappropriate for adults, and has. You know.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 10:56 PM

GYC wrote: ="Zvon"]that was big, but watch......all we'll here about is how the bullpen blew it. And that's all we should hear about. The fact that imgrates like Koo and Graves are on our roster is pathetic. The Mets, as on organization, should be ashamed of themselves. point taken. Thank God for that old workhorse Hernandez. But i have this fear one night we may see his arm actually fall off.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 10:57 PM

I know Johnny. And he got an eyeful of bad language tonight. Which is fine - better that he learn it here than on the streets.

GYC Aug 20 2005 10:58 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Thnis forum contains material inappropriate for adults, and has. You know. Ya'll are lucky I don't know the swearing rules or ages of posters. You should see my vent on the Jets board.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 11:01 PM

The Jets can inspire swearing, that's for sure ;)

Zvon Aug 20 2005 11:02 PM

is Johnny the guy who masturbates whenever he catches a foul ball?

Valadius Aug 20 2005 11:02 PM

If Omar doesn't at least get rid of Graves after tonight's game, I'm going to start questioning the seemingly miraculous skills of Doctor Joseph and his son Doctor Jeffrey Dellarusso.

Zvon Aug 20 2005 11:13 PM

Valadius wrote: If Omar doesn't at least get rid of Graves after tonight's game, I'm going to start questioning the seemingly miraculous skills of Doctor Joseph and his son Doctor Jeffrey Dellarusso. im all concerned about the rotation situation, but the real thing that needs to be addressed is that dang bullpen. They had it together for a bit of a stretch there, pre AS break, but ever since Graves got here the whole shebang has SUCKED. Cept Hernandez, and he's like 102 yrs old. Omar really should have addressed this b4 the trade deadline, but then, as he was sayin, no one was becoming available. There must be afew journeymen somewhere. I see better pitchers than Graves and Koo on the AC SURF, the local minor league team here.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 11:18 PM

And my blood pressure is aaaalmost normal enough to give out PoTG points

Valadius Aug 20 2005 11:21 PM

As I asked earlier, can we give out negative Schaefer's points? That's the only way to properly reward everybody for this game.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2005 11:27 PM

No - negative points are not allowed. Yancy will yell at you if you award them

Zvon Aug 20 2005 11:27 PM

Valadius wrote: As I asked earlier, can we give out negative Schaefer's points? That's the only way to properly reward everybody for this game. Koo, Graves and Looper should lose something for that travesty. I just noticed that Martinez only threw 74 pitches. Now, I know Willie wants to keep him as fresh as possible, but he should have gotten at least one if not two more innings from Pedro. (who knows,he may have gotten thru both innings with 3 pitches each) I think Pedro might even agree with this, since it cost him a W. (but who thought they could give 8 runs back to the Nats tonight, right?) cripes.

Rotblatt Aug 20 2005 11:37 PM

IMO, the move to pull Petey was fine. The problem was that Graves is on our roser. I pretty much guarantee that Bell wouldn't have sucked that badly. I realize that that's a pretty easy guarantee to make after the fact, but I suspect most of you will agree with me, so I wont' worry about it too much. And I don't think Koo or Heilman deserved much blame--Koo especially. He's been very good for us when not injured. Anyway, thank God we got the win. Let's have a REAL laffer tomorrow.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 11:40 PM

Hopefully we will have one tomorrow- I'll be there, and don't want to get agitated. Any more craziness might be too much for me.

Edgy DC Aug 20 2005 11:57 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 29 2005 01:17 PM

It'll be very interesting. Graves' real sins were the two walks. They cut loose DeJean because he was unable to throw a strike. I suspect they're seeing something in his bullpen work that suggests he's got something he's not showing. So, try and slip him into the minors to work with him there, and don't worry too much if he's claimed. It's certainly what I (and a lot of others) said five or six weeks ago, but now, he'll only have to be a Tide for ten days. Looper is more interesting, and I suspect we'll see a Heilman-for-Closer movement in the stands before the homestand is up. Meanwhile, the Mets gain on three of the four teams ahead of them in the division standings, and three of the four teams ahead of them in the comodín standings.

Zvon Aug 21 2005 12:04 AM

I read Ring wont be makin the roster. That dont make no sense. Good game tonight fellow faniuns. I could not have gotten thru it alone. :wink:

Centerfield Aug 21 2005 12:55 AM

Cool part about tonight: I avoided all this drama. I heard from a friend that the Mets were up 8-0 with Pedro on cruise control. Later on, someone confirmed that the Mets had won and were now within 2 of the wild card. Bad part: I didn't know about any of this drama until I just went through this thread. This had all the markings of a horror story...glad to see it went well. Proposal: Anyone who uses the word "laugher", "laffer" or any variation thereof in an IGT gets an immediate lifetime ban. No questions asked. (We have a Giamatti on this board, he should have some experience with lifetime bans)

Zvon Aug 21 2005 01:05 AM

Centerfield wrote: Proposal: Anyone who uses the word "laugher", "laffer" or any variation thereof in an IGT gets an immediate lifetime ban. No questions asked. Come on---- it was 8-0 with Pedro on the mound at the time. I almost turned the channel. And I stepped up and took the blame. Okay. Ill never laffer again :cry:

Zvon Aug 21 2005 01:07 AM

....where do those Shaver points go tonight? im tryin to stay up and post em.

holychicken Aug 21 2005 01:17 AM

It wasn't mentioned at all during the IGT at all. . . but does anyone know what Pedro's velocity was tonight? Was he throwin hard or did he look like he needed a rest?

Spacemans Bong Aug 21 2005 01:35 AM

holychicken wrote: It wasn't mentioned at all during the IGT at all. . . but does anyone know what Pedro's velocity was tonight? Was he throwin hard or did he look like he needed a rest? Mid 80s, lots of cutters and two seamers. I think that foot is still bothering him.

SI Metman Aug 21 2005 01:38 AM

I just rock back and forth knowing that in 11 days we could have Bell and Ring back which means fewer opportunities for Willie to use Graves and Koo.

seawolf17 Aug 21 2005 09:03 AM

This was a great IGT. Thank you all so much. Looper was crap last night; he wasn't even hitting 89 on the WPIX gun, and if he's not throwing harder, he's throwing meatballs. You had to know he was going to give up hits... I was just hoping they would be hit right at someone. I'll say what I've said all year; I don't trust Diaz at ALL. With his glove, with his bat, with anything.

Rotblatt Aug 21 2005 09:47 AM

I think the gun was slow. I mean, Petey blew a few "81" mph fastballs past people and he had a couple 78'er that I'm pretty sure were actual fastballs and not changeups. Hernandez was slower than I remembered as well.

Nymr83 Aug 21 2005 09:52 AM

i was there last night, easily the worst win ever. kaz matsui was given a loud boooo which i think was as much for randolph pulling pedro as it was for him. i really dislike randolph, he doesn't know how to use a pitching staff at all.

Edgy DC Aug 21 2005 01:22 PM

Easily the worst win ever?

ScarletKnight41 Aug 21 2005 01:24 PM

Seaver is laying it heavy about Pedro coming out after only six innings. The party line is that Pedro didn't feel "right" after the sixth. Seaver will have none of it, saying that the starter's job is to go at least 8 innings. He also mentions that Rick Peterson has been "protective" about Pedro and his early exits.

Elster88 Aug 22 2005 11:23 AM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Seaver will have none of it, saying that the starter's job is to go at least 8 innings. He also walked uphill in the snow both ways to school every morning.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 22 2005 11:40 AM

Which was pretty unusual for Fresno, California <g>

Bret Sabermetric Aug 22 2005 11:43 AM

FTR, he didn't say "at least 8." He said "At least 7." He also said "get you to the 8th," whcich may explain the confusion.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 22 2005 11:51 AM

In any event, he certainly felt that six was wimping out.

seawolf17 Aug 22 2005 11:56 AM

In any event, Seaver's an ass on the air.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 22 2005 11:59 AM

Ass or not, I think he had a point in this case.

Rotblatt Aug 22 2005 12:58 PM

Bah, whatever. Petey's going to be on our team for a long, long time, and it's in our best interests to keep him healthy. Coddling him whenever we get the chance is smart, and I'm happy we're doing it. I just wish we were making more smart choices.

Nymr83 Aug 23 2005 01:07 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Easily the worst win ever? Yes, as in i've never left the ballpark after a win with such little joy. dorry i didnt see your reply till now i dont usualy check IGTs the day after

TheOldMole Aug 23 2005 06:02 AM

Just as I was turning off the computer last night, the closed captioning typed in something about "Willie Rain Doll."