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Frayed Knot May 24 2008 01:55 PM

Reyes - SS Castillo - 2B Wright - 3B Beltran - CF Tatis - RF Delgado - 1B Castro - C Evans - LF Vargas - P Posednik - CF Herrera - 2B Holliday - LF Helton - 1B Stewart - 3B Smith - RF Ianetta - C Quintanilla - SS Francis - P Couple of new guys/injuries for the Rox also. Clint Barmes, starting at SS recently due to Tulowitski's injury, is now DL'd (hurt on Reyes's slide yesterday), as is OFer Brad Hawpe. Call-ups include Ian Stewart who has been their top corner IF propsect for the last few years, and OFer Seth Smith who's most known for backing up Eli Manning at Ole Miss. That means the Rox are starting backup QBs to both Eli (Smith) and Peyton (Helton) Manning.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 01:59 PM

Reyes leads with a single. Castillo, batting 2nd, sac bunts the 1-0 pitch foul. In the first inning. In Colorado.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:01 PM

Two balls, two strikes on Castillo. This takes away the sac bunt. I hope. If Castillo doesn't make an out, Wright gets up with two on and nobody out. In Colorado. Against a lefty.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:02 PM

Double steal! Wright's not bunting. So far.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:03 PM

Randolph's secretly pissed that he doesn't get to engineer one run on two outs and a balk.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:04 PM

Bases loaded for Beltran. Nobody out. Big inning?

metirish May 24 2008 02:05 PM

Beltran decides not to bunt and instead drives in three runs.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:05 PM

Beltran clears the bases. A three run double. This is what could happen when you don't bunt with the top of the order. Still, nobody out.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:05 PM

Call me crazy but I knida like this start. No word yet on whether Beltran's bases-clearing 2B will quell Joe Badabingo's efforts to dump him immediately in favor of a single-A prospect.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:06 PM

Willie can smell Gary Carter. Therefore, he probably won't have Tatis sac bunting.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:07 PM

Tatis still up. Tatis hasn't squared away to bunt.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:07 PM

Foul ball. On a full non bunting swing.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:08 PM

Tatis singles. Beltran to third. Still nobody out.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:08 PM

Carlos Delgado up. Delgado means skinny in spanish.

metirish May 24 2008 02:08 PM

FOX show a shot of Minaya and Bernazard in a suite with Horowitz , looked like an animated conversation.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:09 PM

The skinny on Delgado is that he can't hit lefties anymore. Delgado still means skinny in spanish.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:10 PM

The Delgado shift must not be on, what with first and third. I wouldn't know, thanks to FOX.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:10 PM

Delgado fans. Still first and third. Big Ramon Castro up.

G-Fafif May 24 2008 02:11 PM

Where have you gone, Gustavo Molina? Evans wears 6.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:12 PM

I was hoping the rookie Evans would be wearing #24. I like trouble.

metirish May 24 2008 02:12 PM

Huge congrats to Evans.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:13 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 24 2008 02:14 PM

="metirish"]FOX show a shot of Minaya and Bernazard in a suite with Horowitz , looked like an animated conversation. JH: "Archuletta! You voted for Archuletta?!? OM: "Hell yeah, I hated that Cook kid and his phony hard-rock emo shit" JH: "I would do Syesha in a New York mintue though" OM: "Jay got Jungle Fever ... Jay got Jungle Fever"

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:13 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2008 02:30 PM

Evans rips a line drive double into the vast expanse of the Coors Field outfield. I lost track of the score. It feels like 20 to nothing. Is there a forfeit rule in place?

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:14 PM

Reyes can't get picked off from the batter's box now, can he?

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:15 PM

When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning?

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:17 PM

When was the last time Wright came up with two on and nobody out in the first inning?

metirish May 24 2008 02:17 PM

="Frayed Knot"] ="metirish"]FOX show a shot of Minaya and Bernazard in a suite with Horowitz , looked like an animated conversation. JH: "Archuletta! You voted for Archuletta?!? OM: "Hell yeah, I hated that Cook kid and his phony hard-rock emo shit" JH: "I would do Syesha in a New York mintue though" OM: "Jay got Jungle Fever ... Jay got Jungle Fever" Funny , Jay was holding a bunch of papers which Minaya snapped from his hands. I'm thinking of watching the game in closed caption , it can't be any more annoying than Stockton and Karros.

metirish May 24 2008 02:17 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:20 PM

Considering that it's Vargas and Coors field you never know how valuable that 5-spot could be. In fact, let's we could use 5 more in the 2nd

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:20 PM

metirish wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"]When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far. If it happened five times, it should've happened 10 times.

metirish May 24 2008 02:21 PM

Matt enjoying his holiday weekend.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:22 PM

Matt Holliday's last three AB's: HR, game winning single, HR. He needs to go down.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:27 PM

Castillo leads off the second. So far, he's not sac bunting. I know this because he just fouled off a pitch. On a full swing.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:29 PM

Wright homers. What are Wright's lifetime stats against lefties in Colorado?

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:31 PM

Wright says: 'Fuck that humidor shit' I can't believe that carried out.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:39 PM

metirish wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"]When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far. What are you busting my balls for? It never happened until today. I just looked it up.

metirish May 24 2008 02:41 PM

Dick Stockton said it during that inning , no shitting.

DocTee May 24 2008 02:42 PM

I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter.

AG/DC May 24 2008 02:46 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2008 02:47 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="metirish"] batmagadanleadoff wrote: When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far. If it happened five times, it should've happened 10 times. And if it happened 10, it should have happened 20? What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter?

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:47 PM

DocTee wrote: I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter. Employment forms or restraining order?

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 02:47 PM

2 pitches seen, 2 doubles

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:48 PM

Evans lines a nice looking double in his second at bat. He's on pace to hit a double every single time up.

AG/DC May 24 2008 02:48 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="DocTee"]I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter. Employment forms or restraining order? Trying to win a Bullet of Cool award?

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:52 PM

AG/DC wrote: And if it happened 10, it should have happened 20? What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter? Because the best batters might all come up with men on base. Because a lineup should optimally be designed to score big in the first inning. Because the first inning is the only inning where the manager knows for sure which three batters are guaranteed to get an at bat. And if the batters at the top get on base, the entire middle of the order gets a chance to drive in runs. And the chances of scoring big are greater when no one's making outs on purpose. A manager who almost always calls for a sac bunt even in the first inning, as soon as his leadoff batter gets on base, is reducing the team's chances of scoring big.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 02:56 PM

You see, I think that Randolph's managerial style reduces offense. And if you're costing your team runs, you could be costing your team some games. And if you're costing your team some games, you could be costing your team the right to play in the post-season. You might even be engineering one of the most embarrassing baseball collapses in modern baseball history.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 03:03 PM

AG/DC wrote: [What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter? Randolph had the sacrifice bunt on in the first inning with Castillo up. And it's not the first time I've seen Willie put on a sac bunt in the first inning of a game in Coors. Any manager that doesn't assume going in, that they're gonna need seven or eight runs to win a game in this stadium is, in my opinion, too stupid to deserve to manage. And if Wilie does understand this, then the sac bunt in the first inning has no justification.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 03:05 PM

FOX sez: The Mets five run first inning is the most since August of last year.

metirish May 24 2008 03:07 PM

I swear I heard Stockton say they had done it five times already this season .

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 03:09 PM

Seth Smith robs Tatis of an extra base hit on a nice running catch in deep RF right in front of a screened-off area where a lady is sitting immersed in some conversation totally oblivious to the play coming right at her.

AG/DC May 24 2008 03:25 PM

I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing. A good team will tend to do better, but I doubt the best team does the best. The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 03:39 PM

I'd really like to see em tack on a few runs here.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 03:40 PM

AG/DC wrote: I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. And I'd bet that the incidence of scoring three or more runs in the first inning correlates very strongly with winning games. Teams score more runs in the first inning than in any other, and not by coincidence. The game's designed for that. AG/DC wrote: A good team will tend to do better, but I doubt the best team does the best. The best teams don't have to be the best at anything. But they're usually near the top in a whole bunch of categories.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 03:53 PM

Nice strong inning by Vargas there getting the middle of the order 1-2-3. I even thought about PH-ing for him the previous inning when he was leading off, but with the pen hving to go all those innings (7?) last night it's best to see how far he can go.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 04:08 PM

9 in a row for Vargas since a leadoff single in the 5th

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:16 PM

Evans the rookie hit his third double. Stockton sez it's the fifth time this week that a Met rookie debuted with three doubles in his first game.

Valadius May 24 2008 04:17 PM

Where the hell did this Nick Evans come from?

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:20 PM

Valadius wrote: Where the hell did this Nick Evans come from? Gary Carter says he mentored Evans and wants credit.

Rockin' Doc May 24 2008 04:24 PM

Evans apparently showed up in Colorado thirsty from his travels.

AG/DC May 24 2008 04:27 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="AG/DC"]I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. Then please don't say otherwise. I fully agree Willie Randolph doesn't manage as well as I'd like. The idea that the incidence of five-run firsts is a direct indicator doesn't work. It just confuses the matter more, in fact.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:31 PM

AG/DC wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"] AG/DC wrote: I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. Then please don't say otherwise. What exactly is the "otherwise" that I wrote that you have a problem with?

AG/DC May 24 2008 04:32 PM

Alright, Delgado. Let's get another chance for Evans. OE: Shit, he was switched out.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:33 PM

Delgado blasts a no-doubt-about-it HR to right field.

Frayed Knot May 24 2008 04:35 PM

Valadius wrote: Where the hell did this Nick Evans come from? Most recently, Binghamton. If you want to go back further than that, he was a 4 round pick (134th overall) in the 2004 draft out of a high school in Arizona.

AG/DC May 24 2008 04:37 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="AG/DC"] batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="AG/DC"]I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. Then please don't say otherwise. What exactly is the "otherwise" that I wrote that you have a problem with? "If it happened five times, it should've happened 10 times." Do need to go in circles?

AG/DC May 24 2008 04:42 PM

This is really silly. We agree. I shouldn't argue with you over how much to agree. Sorry.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:46 PM

AG/DC wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"] AG/DC wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"] AG/DC wrote: I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. Then please don't say otherwise. What exactly is the "otherwise" that I wrote that you have a problem with? "If it happened five times, it should've happened 10 times." I stand by my post. A manager who insists on bunting right before the middle of order is due up is costing his team runs. Sac bunts reduce offense. This has been proven statistically. When a manager serial bunts with the #2 hitter, the team takes an even bigger offensive hit than it ordinarily would by merely bunting at the bottom of the order. If the Mets have "x" big first innings under Willie, they'd have more than "x" with somebody less inclined to bunt.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 04:48 PM

AG/DC wrote: This is really silly. We agree. I shouldn't argue with you over how much to agree. Sorry. You started it.

metirish May 24 2008 05:37 PM

Blame me guys.

AG/DC May 24 2008 05:38 PM

So, you respond to "sorry" with with a preference to continue arguing. You are more iramets every post.

seawolf17 May 24 2008 05:41 PM

="metirish"]Blame me guys. What the hell is that thing?!? Get it off my screen!

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 06:10 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="AG/DC"]This is really silly. We agree. I shouldn't argue with you over how much to agree. Sorry. You started it. ="AG/DC"]So, you respond to "sorry" with with a preference to continue arguing. You are more iramets every post. That wasn't an argumentative post. None of my posts were. I understand how when two posters on a web-site carry on a cyber-conversation in which they disagree with each other, the conversation might appear to be argumentative or confrontational. Much of that is due to the limitations inherent in this type of communication -- where one poster can't hear the voice of the other, or can't see the facial response that delivers the message -- all important clues in determining the mood and tone of the speaker. What's that saying about being able to say the word "fuck" and have it mean 20 different things depending on the surrounding context? The web filters out a lot of important context that helps define the message. But enough of that bullshit. I wasn't arguing. It's also unfair of you to challenge many of my posts and then accuse me of acting undesirable when I defend my posts. (So first you blast my post, and then you blast me for defending myself). Or to accuse me of being Iramet --- even more so when it should be obvious to you that I have no idea what this reference is all about. And how am I like this Iramet? And is that good or bad? And this post isn't argumentative either. Because I love you. Okay? There. I said it. Even though you did start all of it.

AG/DC May 24 2008 07:07 PM

I'm not accusing you of being the guy. I'm accusing you of being like the guy.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 07:15 PM

="AG/DC"]I'm not accusing you of being [Iramet]. I'm accusing you of being like [Iramet]. Isn't that what I wrote? ="batmagadanleadoff"] And how am I like this Iramet? And since when is it a good thing to be accused?

AG/DC May 24 2008 07:24 PM

No. It's not what you wrote. We're going in circles.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2008 09:54 PM

AG/DC wrote: I'm not accusing you of being the guy. I'm accusing you of being like the guy. Against my better judgment, I'll bite: So how am I like the guy? (Which is what you shoulda come out and said in the first place, instead of the cryptic accusation).