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TheOldMole Jun 05 2008 08:57 AM |
NY Times:
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Vic Sage Jun 05 2008 10:26 AM |
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wow. there's some fair and balanced reporting. I don't think MLB is claiming fans should pay to talk about the game. I do think they are claiming that unlicensed 3rd parties are using the names of MLB players to make a buck, and therefore MLB (to the extent they are authorized to license such uses of MLB player names, images, etc) wants their cut. of course facts are not copyrightable. Just like phone books are collections of data and are not copyrightable, so too with baseball statistics. But I do think there is a different issue of using athletes' names in conjunction with those stats, to the extent they are celebrities with "rights of publicity" arising from various state laws, who have a financial interest in their names, likenesses and personas, especially when they are used by an unlicensed 3rd party for commercial purposes. Fantasy baseball websites are not news reporting; there is no fair use, first amendment or public policy exemption for these companies to make a buck off the names of ballplayers (either through subscriptions or ads) without permission.
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Vince Coleman Firecracker Jun 05 2008 10:51 AM |
Do casinos with sports books pay money to MLB to show the results for games?
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holychicken Jun 05 2008 10:57 AM |
So if I have a blog that talks about baseball and that has gained enough attention that I have paid advertisement, I am infringing on MLB's intellectual property by mentioning their name?
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Vic Sage Jun 05 2008 02:12 PM |
its not necessarily about whether "money is involved". In our society, almost all newsgathering is done by for-profit corporations, but profit does not exclude the press from using their first amendment rights and they can report and make comment on public events (including use of footage, and other 3rd party material), based on the first amendment and the "newsworthy" exception in the fair use doctrine of copyright.
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holychicken Jun 05 2008 03:01 PM |
I see what you are saying and it definitely makes sense.
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AG/DC Jun 05 2008 05:37 PM |
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I'm pretty sure the union brokers the rights to the players' names (and images) for use in board games and, I'm assuming, computer games. I only found this out because, after strike years, Strat-o-Matic would publish the games with the cards lacking names for any players who crossed the picket line.
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DocTee Jun 05 2008 05:54 PM |
We discussed this in an earlier thread. A former student of mine, now finishing law school, just had an article published concerning copyrights and fantasy sports (do athletes "own" their likenesses, stats, etc)...pretty interesting, if esoteric, stuff. Published an article on this, too:
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TheOldMole Jun 07 2008 06:44 AM |
Doc - can you give us a summary?
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