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IGT 06/11, Diamondbacks @ Metropolitan Mess

KC Jun 11 2008 04:11 PM

Young cf Drew ss Hudson 2b Jackson lf Tracy 1b Reynolds 3b Snyder c Salazar rf Webb p Reyes ss Castillo 2b Wright 3b Beltran cf Delgado 1b Anderson lf Schneider c Chavez rf Pelfrey p

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 04:19 PM

Alou's calf "stiffened up" during the rain delay and is out today. He may need another MRI.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 04:19 PM

Beat Brandon Webb...just for the hell of it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 05:17 PM

Go Big Pelf. Destroyed the leadoff baserunner with a pickoff and it's 123

metirish Jun 11 2008 05:39 PM

Minaya in the booth explaining what it is.........it's a " glut" that the Mets are in , at least I think that's what he said.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 05:42 PM

Oh please tell me he and everybody are resigning.

metirish Jun 11 2008 05:48 PM

I like how he lumped Ron and Gary in with " everyone that works here" wanting this thing to work , " because we all care".... Good pitching going on here by both pitchers.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 05:55 PM

I liked how one of the "theories" Omar didn't label a misconception is that the Mets suck.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 05:59 PM

Alou out of the line-up AGAIN???? In-freaking-credible. Poor Pelfrey pitching well again, and has no support to show for it.

metirish Jun 11 2008 06:01 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Alou out of the line-up AGAIN???? In-freaking-credible. Yeah but when Alou is healthy he can roll out of bed and get hits , problem is he gets injured rolling out of bed he's so shot.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 06:03 PM

Mets Guy in Mich. and I are tied at a Joe Foyish 1,587 posts apiece! At least we were 'til...now. Which is when the Mets get first and third and nobody out!

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 06:07 PM

Oh Foy!

KC Jun 11 2008 06:08 PM

Mets up 2-sniffle! Omar sucks!

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 06:10 PM

Mets take it to Webb...literally.

metirish Jun 11 2008 06:10 PM

Delgado hits one back to Webb who takes it on the arm or back , runners on the corners with one out , Mets up two tp zip.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2008 06:13 PM

Marlons puts his game where his bizarre note is. Either way, it's 3-0.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 11 2008 06:17 PM

Gary asked Omar "what surprises you the most?" and Omar said the "streakiness." The question made me think: Of all the reasons the Mets are around .500, are any of them particularly surprising? The only one is that Beltran is having a subpar season so far. Nothing else seems surprising. Not the injuries. Not the uneven performances from Perez.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 06:19 PM

I'm back -- sneaking peeks at work. G-FAFIF, I gotta catch up with some quality posts because Joe Foy is most certainly an omen that is bad for all of us. Nice to see Pelf get some support! Now let's hold 'em. Somebody send Heilman to run an errand to Jersey or something....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 06:21 PM

That was a fun inning. You gotta love it when a guy whacks the opposing pitching in the ass with a line drive. And it was right that they got Beltran home after he drove in the first 2. I like the Mets again, I'm such a wuss.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 06:24 PM

metirish - "Minaya in the booth explaining what it is.........it's a " glut" that the Mets are in , at least I think that's what he said." Are you he didn't say toilet?

KC Jun 11 2008 06:27 PM

Pelfrey gets a hit! Omar sucks!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 06:29 PM

I'm feeling it tonight. I think the streak of shame ends and redemption points all around.

KC Jun 11 2008 06:33 PM

I don't do shame. This is probably the kiss of death IGT wise, but this game is buzzing along nicely time wise.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 06:33 PM

Hey, they knocked Brandon Webb out of the game. That's a good sign.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 06:37 PM

The injury report on FOX's gamecast says Santana is day-to-day with a bruised shoulder. What happened to him?

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 06:38 PM

why did webb leave??

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 06:40 PM

Nymr83 wrote: why did webb leave?? I think it was because they're down three runs and needed some hits, hoped to get something going.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 06:44 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: The injury report on FOX's gamecast says Santana is day-to-day with a bruised shoulder. What happened to him? He got hit with a pitch trying to bunt last time out, IIRC.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 06:45 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: ="Nymr83"]why did webb leave?? I think it was because they're down three runs and needed some hits, hoped to get something going. he threw 58 pitches over 5 and hadnt walked anyone, i'd have left him in

metirish Jun 11 2008 06:49 PM

Webb was taken out because he took a liner from Delgado to the arm/back .

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 06:52 PM

Just logging in. I support sticking with Pelfrey here.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 06:52 PM

I'm getting a mancrush

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 06:52 PM

AG/DC wrote: Just logging in. I support sticking with Pelfrey here. ditto

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 06:52 PM

And I hit submit before Reynolds whiffed. Great slider.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 06:54 PM

Love

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 06:54 PM

nice job by pelfrey, now the bullpen needs to hold this lead.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 06:54 PM

Mike Pelfrey just became a man.

metirish Jun 11 2008 06:55 PM

Obviously Pelfrey took the blueprint with all the seriousness it deserved .

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 06:55 PM

AG/DC wrote: Mike Pelfrey just became a man. Yes, he popped my cherries. ew.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:00 PM

Aflac asks who the only man besides Reyes is who had 250 steals and 50 triples before he turned 25. I'm guessing Honus Wagner.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:01 PM

"pitch-count shmitch-count" say Wayne Hagan and Howie Rose, send Pelfrey out for the 8th!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:01 PM

Would be nice if anyone at the butt end of the lineup could reach base.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:02 PM

Pitch counts = good. Worshipping the number 100 = bad.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:02 PM

AG/DC wrote: Aflac asks who the only man besides Reyes is who had 250 steals and 50 triples before he turned 25. I'm guessing Honus Wagner. Rickey probably had 400 steals already, but not sure about the triples

TransMonk Jun 11 2008 07:03 PM

AG/DC wrote: Pitch counts = good. Worshipping the number 100 = bad. true dat

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:04 PM

agreed

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:05 PM

Pelfrey K's Upton for the 2nd out of the 8th.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:06 PM

Flyball to center, it only took him 7 pitches to get through the 8th... does Willie dare allow him to pitch the 9th?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:06 PM

Due to lead off this inning.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:07 PM

Join me: LET HIM BAT, WILLIE, LET HIM BAT! (Clap-Clap!) LET HIM BAT, WILLIE, LET HIM BAT! (Clap-Clap!)

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:07 PM

I'm guessing Ty Cobb for the AFLAC question. The man put up absolutely sick numbers from the start of his career as an 18 year old until the very end when in his early 40's.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:09 PM

Today Willie Randolph became a man.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:11 PM

AG/DC wrote: Aflac asks who the only man besides Reyes is who had 250 steals and 50 triples before he turned 25. I'm guessing Honus Wagner. Cobb. That was my second guess.

themetfairy Jun 11 2008 07:11 PM

Did you see the look on Pelfrey's face when he saw the fans giving him the standing ovation after his at bat? That was a beautiful moment. Tonight the Shea crowd became a man.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:12 PM

theres nothing like succeeding in NY

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:13 PM

Very unusual move for Willie to let Pelfrey bat for himself in the eighth. I whole heartedly approve of the move. Pelfrey has a chance for a post game six pack of Schaefer.

bmfc1 Jun 11 2008 07:15 PM

I missed the first 7 innings as I was at my son's game (a 14-4 loss). I just want to say that you people have done a fantastic job tonight!

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:16 PM

AG/DC - "Cobb. That was my second guess." Yay, I finally got something right. It helped that I had read a book about Cobb and Ruth earlier this spring. The numbers the two of them put up are absolutely mind boggling.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:18 PM

Hey, would-be basestealers! Stop fucking with my mojo!

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:20 PM

We have a new Met.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:21 PM

Pelfrey pulled , what an effort , God Bless Mike Pelfrey.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:22 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:22 PM

themetfairy Jun 11 2008 07:25 PM

Billy - be a fucking hero, dammit!

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:26 PM

Billy, do what you need to do.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:26 PM

Billy don't be a goat .

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:27 PM

Nice play by the The Schneid there.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:28 PM

TWO

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:29 PM

98

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:32 PM

Fuck this shit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:32 PM

omfg

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:32 PM

On field delay?

themetfairy Jun 11 2008 07:32 PM

I hat Wagner

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:32 PM

My word.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:33 PM

The team looks stunned.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:33 PM

That's it, I'm becoming a hockey fan. This absolutely sucks.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 07:33 PM

FUCK THIS TEAM, FIRE THEM ALL.

TransMonk Jun 11 2008 07:34 PM

Jesus Christmas, what a clusterfuck this team is.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:35 PM

Is anyone surprised though , I'm not , fucking stunned is what I am.

Gwreck Jun 11 2008 07:35 PM

Remember that Wright leads off because of the Castillo CS. I say he homers here to save this game.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 07:36 PM

THe way things have been going I actually looked at us getting a break on that HBP call and thinking it was going to come back and bite us.

soupcan Jun 11 2008 07:36 PM

Can't blame that on me, I'm not there.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:36 PM

Darling was warning against the high fastball. When Hernandez is named manager, maybe Darling comes down with him.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:37 PM

soupcan - "Can't blame that on me, I'm not there." Where's Rogers?

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 07:37 PM

How are all those caught stealings looking right about now?

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:41 PM

Beltran walks with one out. The Mets need to get him home.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:42 PM

Aguila may get a chance to be a hero in his first at bat.

Gwreck Jun 11 2008 07:42 PM

Dan Uggla just hit a walk-off grand slam against the Phillies. We just need the 2-run here, Carlos.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:47 PM

I was hoping Aguila might arrive like Tatis and Ambres did. I'll take that one.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:47 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Aguila may get a chance to be a hero in his first at bat. Gets his hit and moves Beltran to second.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 07:47 PM

Aguila hits the first pitch he sees for a single. Beltran in scoring position.

metirish Jun 11 2008 07:50 PM

Even if we win this most of the joy will be gone for me, it's strange.

KC Jun 11 2008 07:51 PM

fuckin' a fuckin' b fuckin' c

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:53 PM

Schneider is awful. It really felt like we had to do it then and there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 07:55 PM

Whaddaya know, Feliciano allows another leadoff runner on base. He's been a huge, silent villain for the Mets this year.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 07:58 PM

Un-freaking-believeable. I come home from work with what I thought was the game safely in hand and see this shit? If Pelfrey went postal tonight, I couldn't blame him.

bmfc1 Jun 11 2008 07:58 PM

This is on me. I didn't get home until the bottom of the 8th.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 07:59 PM

How many of you had a spouse-type person enter the room after the eighth?

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:06 PM

So Alou probably isn't available even to PH ... meaning we're again one man short on the bench. Just Castro left on the bench now.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:14 PM

AG/DC wrote: How many of you had a spouse-type person enter the room after the eighth? My wife just shakes her head and says "They're going to break your heart. They always do." I swear, the cat -- named "Tug" -- just walked by and gave me a look that said, "They suck, dammit." I know, the cat's got a potty mouth.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:16 PM

Heilman needs to make a statement here. Show me why Muniz isn't in this spot instead.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:17 PM

This would signal a mojo reversal if we can get Heilman the W he deserves now.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:18 PM

That Reynolds HR weren't no cheapie either (I just saw it now via replay for the first time since I turned away while the ball was still in flight when it actually happened)

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:18 PM

Aw'right, Aaron!!!

soupcan Jun 11 2008 08:19 PM

Okay, I'll fess up. I didn't get home till the 9th inning and had seen none of the game until then. I turned it on, Pelfrey gave up the leadoff hit and it all went to shit. I should start watching Phillie games maybe.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:19 PM

Good teams pick each other up.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:20 PM

We are, once again, getting totally shutdown by another bullpen.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:20 PM

soupcan wrote: Okay, I'll fess up. I didn't get home till the 9th inning and had seen none of the game until then. I turned it on, Pelfrey gave up the leadoff hit and it all went to shit. I should start watching Phillie games maybe. I blame Soup's neighbors. Don't have a valid reason for it. Just think they're bad people.

soupcan Jun 11 2008 08:22 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I blame Soup's neighbors. Don't have a valid reason for it. Just think they're bad people. Sounds good to me.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:23 PM

Here we go!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:24 PM

Redemption awaits for Carlos!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:25 PM

Or not. Dammit.

KC Jun 11 2008 08:27 PM

Someone might eventually notice that I gave this IGT the kiss of death on page 2, post 3 or thereabout, so I thought I'd point it out.

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 08:30 PM

Heilman's throwing darts tonight.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:31 PM

I'll sooner blame about Birthboy Boy and Castillo for getting thrown out in the eighth than blame people like KC or the missus. Though I've already blamed her, so what the hey.

KC Jun 11 2008 08:33 PM

Well everyone was claiming blame so I thought I'd claim some.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:33 PM

I'm less about the CSes -- even though Spousy blames them too -- than the complete lack of production from Chavvy and Schneid. Anywhoo, Heilman really deserves a win now.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:35 PM

Heilman continues his perfect vs perfectly awful dichotomy

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:36 PM

Aguila... how do they pronounce that? ah-GOO-lee-ah?

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:37 PM

A-GEE-la. Hard G.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:38 PM

AG/DC wrote: A-GEE-la. Hard G. Thanks!

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 08:39 PM

Schneid gets off the shnide with a single. LET'S GO METS!

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:41 PM

Castro warming in the pen?

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 08:43 PM

And the fun continues...

themetfairy Jun 11 2008 08:44 PM

KC wrote: Someone might eventually notice that I gave this IGT the kiss of death on page 2, post 3 or thereabout, so I thought I'd point it out. I wasn't going to say anything about it. But you must have heard me thinking loudly....

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:44 PM

On the bright side, if we can get through this inning, we have the top of the order up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:45 PM

KC wrote: This is probably the kiss of death IGT wise, but this game is buzzing along nicely time wise.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:46 PM

Anybodies want to explain Vargas?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:48 PM

He's this year's Jorge Sosa.

KC Jun 11 2008 08:49 PM

tmf: >>>I wasn't going to say anything about it. But you must have heard me thinking loudly<<< I meant you, by 'someone'

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 08:49 PM

Ruh roh. Feels like yesterday.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:50 PM

Aguila was a 3rd round draft pick of the Marlins in 1997, 6 picks after the Mets drafted Cesar Crespo. Crespo never played for the Mets but did have 250 or so ABs of sub-Medoza line hitting for the Pads and BoSox. Hasn't been seen since '04

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 08:50 PM

i think the only ones left in the pen are Schoenweis, who has been terrible especially lately, and Smith.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:51 PM

YES! Nice DP.

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 08:51 PM

HUGE 5-4-3!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:53 PM

Here we go! Top of the order. I say Reyes will come around to score on a Wright rbi.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:53 PM

Give love. And keep blood between brothers.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:54 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 11 2008 08:54 PM

Nymr83 wrote: i think the only ones left in the pen are Schoenweis, who has been terrible especially lately, and Smith. Sanchez too. All I think are as rested as Vargas or moreso, particularly Schoeneweis. Basic bullpen principles: 1) Your releivers should get gradually better as you approach the ninth, gradually worse as you proceed past the ninth into extra innings. 2) Your releivers should tend to get gradually less durable as you approach the ninth, gradually more durable as you proceed past the ninth into extra iinnings.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 08:54 PM

Santana is probably home and not available for pinch-running.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:54 PM

JC, what number is our newest Met wearing?

TransMonk Jun 11 2008 08:54 PM

Nymr83 wrote: i think the only ones left in the pen are Schoenweis, who has been terrible especially lately, and Smith. Sanchez, but he falls into the Scho category.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 08:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 11 2008 08:56 PM

]JC, what number is our newest Met wearing? He's a son of John DeMerit [url]http://www.mbtn.net/number/29[/url]

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 08:55 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Santana is probably home and not available for pinch-running. I want him available for pitching.

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 08:56 PM

Come on Slappy, we need a baserunner.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 08:58 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ]JC, what number is our newest Met wearing? He's a son of John DeMerit [url]http://www.mbtn.net/number/29[/url] Some nice names on that family tree...mostly pitchers, though. Now, let's make that error hurt!

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 09:01 PM

David is seeing a lot of pitches ... one of these times

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 09:03 PM

It falls to Beltran to try to deliver victory for the Mets.

KC Jun 11 2008 09:04 PM

The tension is maddening.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 09:05 PM

YAY!!!!!

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 09:05 PM

WOO HOO!

KC Jun 11 2008 09:05 PM

And NOT!!!

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 09:06 PM

YES!!!!! KABOOM!!!!!!

themetfairy Jun 11 2008 09:06 PM

Memories of another Beltran extra inning shot! There is joy in Mudville :)

Rockin' Doc Jun 11 2008 09:07 PM

Beltran delivers a Kaboom!!!

Gwreck Jun 11 2008 09:08 PM

I mean, I'm happy and all. But I think I need to defer celebration until they get back to .500.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 09:08 PM

Good teams pick each other up.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2008 09:08 PM

That shot, plus the 6-spot the A's put up on the Yanx since I last peaked in on that game, fulfills my quota of porn til at least next decade.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2008 09:09 PM

Gwreck wrote: I mean, I'm happy and all. But I think I need to defer celebration until they get back to .500. But I already came.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 11 2008 09:09 PM

Gwreck wrote: I mean, I'm happy and all. But I think I need to defer celebration until they get back to .500. Na, I think you need to celebrate this one. That monkey had been on their backs for nearly a week.

SteveJRogers Jun 11 2008 09:10 PM

Heh, yeah we could use a little enthusiasm curbing, especially since we've since this act several times before with the 2008 Mets, but geez G, can it wait until Thursday? =;)

bmfc1 Jun 11 2008 09:10 PM

Phew. I mean HOORAY!

TransMonk Jun 11 2008 09:14 PM

Let's do it again tomorrow. Without the blown save and extra innings.

Fman99 Jun 11 2008 09:14 PM

Gwreck wrote: I mean, I'm happy and all. But I think I need to defer celebration until they get back to .500. Fuck that. I am celebrating a nice win in extra frames.

Nymr83 Jun 11 2008 09:38 PM

maybe i'm just a bitter fantasy owner of mike pelfrey but i dont feel like a win.

AG/DC Jun 11 2008 09:43 PM

Not for nothing, but Willie got out-bonered tonight. Arizona kept Brandon Lyon locked in their pen, looking for the save opportunity that would never come. They brough an innings guy in before they had used up their shorter relievers, and ended up wasting an at-bat to keep him in the game. They had an extra batting threat in Owings (maybe better than anybody available on the Mets bench) and wasted him bunting. Thanks, Bob Melvin.