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Coach Count

AG/DC Jun 17 2008 02:28 PM

If you believe what you read at UMDB, Oberkfell, Warthen, and Aguayo (and who wouldn't bring their legal needs to a firm with that name) will be the 91st, 92nd, and 93rd regular season guys added to the all-time coach and manager roster. The way things look, we could hit the century mark by spring training.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2008 02:38 PM

The definition of "coach" can sometimes be a little fuzzy. I think that list is pretty accurate, but there may be an omission or two. (Phil Cavaretta, for example, was added much later than he should have been.) Did you count those names right? I get that there are already 92 (including Warthen) with two more (Oberkfell and Aguayo) to be added.

AG/DC Jun 17 2008 02:42 PM

I saw Warthen and assumed the other two were added. I've got 93, including the following managers who weren't also coaches: Casey Stengel Gil Hodges Joe Frazier Joe Torre George Bamberger Davey Johnson Jeff Torborg Dallas Green Art Howe Willie Randolph I saw Warthen and assumed you had added all three.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2008 02:46 PM

Actually, my official count, including the new guys, is 95: Acta, Manny Aguayo, Luis Alomar, Sandy Alomar, Sandy Apodaca, Bob Bamberger, George Baylor, Don Benedict, Bruce Berra, Yogi Brantley, Mickey Burgess, Tom Cavarretta, Phil Chambliss, Chris Conti, Guy Cottier, Chuck Cubbage, Mike Down, Rick Dusan, Gene Edwards, Doc Engle, Dave Floyd, Bobby Foote, Barry Frazier, Joe Frey, Jim Galante, Matt Gibson, Bob Green, Dallas Haddix, Harvey Harder, Mel Harrelson, Bud Heffner, Don Hemus, Solly Henderson, Rickey Herzog, Whitey Hiller, Chuck Hodges, Gil Hornsby, Rogers Hoscheit, Vern Hough, Charlie Howard, Frank Howe, Art Jackson, Al Johnson, Darrell Johnson, Davey Johnson, Deron Johnson, Howard Kress, Red LaRoche, Dave Lavagetto, Cookie Manuel, Jerry Maxvill, Dal Mays, Willie McCraw, Tom McCullough, Clyde McMillan, Roy Monbouquette, Bill Murphy, Johnny Niemann, Randy Nieto, Tom Oberkfell, Ken Parker, Salty Pavlick, Greg Perlozzo, Sam Peterson, Rick Pettis, Gary Pignatano, Joe Randolph, Willie Robinson, Bill Robinson, Sheriff Robson, Tom Rojas, Cookie Ruffing, Red Ruhle, Vern Sisler, Dick Sommers, Denny Spahn, Warren Spencer, Tom Staub, Rusty Stearns, John Stengel, Casey Stottlemyre, Mel Swisher, Steve Torborg, Jeff Torre, Joe Valentine, Bobby Waits, Rick Walker, Rube Wallace, Dave Walling, Denny Warthen, Dan Westrum, Wes White, Ernie Wilson, Mookie Wine, Bobby Yost, Eddie

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2008 02:47 PM

AG/DC wrote: I saw Warthen and assumed you had added all three. Nope, sorry for the confusion. I'm waiting on the other two until their actual roles are announced.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2008 02:52 PM

The Mets have had more managers or coaches named "Tom" than any other name, 5, although if you combine the Bobs and the Bobby's you also get 5. Strangely, they've had two coaches each with the less common names of Denny, Vern, Red, and even Cookie. We've now had as many coaches named Ken as we've had named Solly, Salty, Sheriff, Mookie, and Rube.

TheOldMole Jun 18 2008 07:28 AM

Was Bambi ever a coach? I remember him coming as manager and leaving as manager.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 18 2008 07:29 AM

No, he was just a manager. The list includes guys who never coached, like Davey Johnson and Casey Stengel and others.

AG/DC Jun 18 2008 07:40 AM

Name one trait about each guy. Manny Acta: caucasian-looking Dominican.

seawolf17 Jun 18 2008 08:09 AM

Luis Aguayo: Was a Phillie during the weird purple years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 18 2008 08:11 AM

Alomar Sr.: Conceived son Roberto while a NY Met

RealityChuck Jun 18 2008 09:01 AM

Rube Walker -- best pitching coach ever.

AG/DC Jun 18 2008 09:06 AM

Hey, whoah, no choosey. Alomar Jr. is up. Batting out of order is a crime and a sin. (Yes, it's true about Rube. But that couldn't help poor Bill Denehy.)

seawolf17 Jun 18 2008 09:34 AM

Doesn't that mean that everyone between Alomar and Walker are automatically out, and Dave Wallace becomes the next batter? I read those old Ron Luciano books. I know my batting-out-of-order rules.