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IGT, 7/7: Mets @ Phils

AG/DC Jul 06 2008 08:24 PM

With Pedro squared up against Adam Eaton, I'm declaring this a Big GameTM. You may think it gauche to start an IGT this early, but mentally, brother, I'm already in the game. Eaton is 5-0 career against the Mets, but it seems a pattern not destined to hold. This year, for instance, he has two starts, 11 innings and seven earned runs, but no decisions. What's that shit about?

TransMonk Jul 06 2008 08:46 PM Re: IGT, 7/7: Mets @ Phils

="AG/DC"]I'm declaring this a Big GameTM. I agree, a lot of things that haven't happened in a while go down if we win tomorrow. Last time the Mets were above .500: 6/5/08 Last time the Mets won 3 in a row: 5/29/08 Last time the Mets were 2.5 games back: 5/20/08 It would be nice to feel optimistic about this team again. The long road back to feeling that way starts with a win tomorrow.

AG/DC Jul 06 2008 09:33 PM

Last time Pedro Martinez was generally effective: 6/15/08

Gwreck Jul 06 2008 10:55 PM

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing -- starting the IGT now, and declaring it a Big Game. Great minds think alike, or something like that. My takeaway from this series so far is that Philly is a flawed team that has had too many things go right for them so far. Hamels (who we missed this series) is a stud, but the rest of their rotation is suspect. Rollins and Howard are performing below their potential. As we saw in games 1-3, their offense can be stopped. I see no reason why the Mets can't take this division. Yes, it will require that the bats get going for a longer stretch. But we are not playing in a division with a Cubs/Brewers or Devil Rays/Red Sox. We have a nice 6 game stretch against bad teams going into the break. We need this game tonight.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 07:13 AM

I agree, this would be a Big Win. And it would be considerably bigger if the Mets could win 6-2 with six solid innings from Pedro than if they won 8-6 with five lousy innings from Pedro.

seawolf17 Jul 07 2008 07:25 AM

I'd even take a 3-2 loss if we get six quality innings from Pedro. He may not be PEDRO any longer, but they need him to be something if they're going to come back and win this thing -- and splitting four games in Philly, whereas it's not ideal, is not the end of the world either, especially considering the Fish are on a tough West Coast swing right now and our guys are heading home to face two teams they should be able to beat.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 07:41 AM

seawolf17 wrote: I'd even take a 3-2 loss if we get six quality innings from Pedro. He may not be PEDRO any longer, but they need him to be something if they're going to come back and win this thing -- and splitting four games in Philly, whereas it's not ideal, is not the end of the world either, especially considering the Fish are on a tough West Coast swing right now and our guys are heading home to face two teams they should be able to beat. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. Win tonight as ugly as it needs to be. Pedro can work on his cometics at AAA for all I care.

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2008 07:47 AM

Also, this team has put itself in a position where these 'we did OK' splits of 4-game series aren't getting us anywhere. Lose tonight and that's 3 of those in a row.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:04 AM

Over the last ten games all three teams in the top of the division have gone 5-5. A win here (and yeah, I'll take an error-strewn 11-7 duckfucker) going into two series aganst second-divison clubs would be a chance to make a move There's going to be an intense amount of heat on some team after today, and I'd rather it not be on Jerry Manuel, but his brother insteead. As baseball teams gravitate toward .500, there's one really good (over .600) team in the game right now (Tampa), and three really bad (sub-.400) ones (Seattle, Washington, San Diego). But (1) we spit the bit against some of these, and (2) Colorado and San Francisco are close to really bad, but both have their share of weaponry and we can't win if we aren't showing up. Let's show up today and get on a roll. Remember that we play these guys again a week after the All-Star break, hopefully healthier. But you can bet that we'll be seeing Hamels next time.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 08:21 AM

Yeah, I'd MUCH rather see them overcome a bad start by Pedro than lose despite a good one. There are seven games remaining before the All-Star break. My goal is to have the Mets win five of them. (More would be nice too, of course.) A win against the Phillies tonight, no matter how ugly, and then two of three against both the Giants and Rockies. That would leave them with a modest 49-46 (.516) record, which, no matter how modest, is a lot better than where they've been for most of the year.

soupcan Jul 07 2008 08:21 AM Re: IGT, 7/7: Mets @ Phils

="TransMonk"] Last time the Mets were above .500: 6/5/08 Last time the Mets won 3 in a row: 5/29/08 Last time the Mets were 2.5 games back: 5/20/08 In addition, a win today would give the Mets a 7-3 season series advantage with only 2 of the remaing 8 games against Philly to be played in Philadelphia.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 08:25 AM

Yep, this game is a big one. I hope Pedro Martinez had Wheaties for breakfast this morning.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:59 AM

Style points don't count here - we need a win with a capital W!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 09:11 AM

By the way this is a Big Game only because both Saturday and Sunday were also Big Games. This has been a strange year even by Met standards. I emotionally folded up the tents Friday night, thinking that maybe the Jerry Era was indeed no different than the Willie Era after all, after a few weeks of truly believing it was going to be different. Then with my spirit destroyed on Saturday they unexpectedly win, then look like they'll win again Sunday only to beg me to start hating them again before turning around and winning the damn thing after all, as if to say, "FU, John Cougar Lunchbucket, if that is your real name, we Mets in the Jerry Era aren't so emotionally weak after all. Sure, there are still scumbags form an earlier time, like Wagner, that we need to shut up and trade to Cincinnati, and Alou, who we should release for fucking us over so many times, but dammit, we have regained the will the win after so many months without it, and we're just learning it all over, so do us the favor of hanging in there while we get it together. Our wins are not pretty, and don't come as frequently as we'd like even still; but they will come. See?"

Centerfield Jul 07 2008 09:20 AM

JCL and I had the same weekend. I actually turned off the game yesterday after Wagner's fuckjob and let my son watch an episode of Dora. I was shocked when the episode ended and the game was still on.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 09:51 AM

Centerfield wrote: JCL and I had the same weekend. I actually turned off the game yesterday after Wagner's fuckjob and let my son watch an episode of Dora. MK would have so shinkicked you for that!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 09:54 AM

I too turned off the game after Werth's homer. I did a half hour on the treadmill, took a shower, read my daughter a chapter from her Harry Potter book, and then checked online and saw the happy (and surprising) final score. I had that game mentally filed in the Loss column.

soupcan Jul 07 2008 10:04 AM

I started watching it at my father-in-law's house in Rockport, MA, 200 miles from my house Left there at the start of the rain delay for the drive home. Turned on WFAN about 45-50 miles from home just in time to hear Heilman get the final out of the 8th. Listened to Wagner give up the Werth homer as my wife looked at me and said sarcastically 'Wow, shocker.' Got home, put the kids to bed and saw Tatis hit his and Bazooka Joe not throw the last out into rightfield.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 10:16 AM

Centerfield wrote: JCL and I had the same weekend. I actually turned off the game yesterday after Wagner's fuckjob and let my son watch an episode of Dora. I was shocked when the episode ended and the game was still on. I had a similar evening. When Werth went deep I shut it off and my family and I went for a nice walk. Came home to find out that they had in fact won the game. Good stuff.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 01:58 PM

Goodguys lineup via Rubin: Reyes, ss Chavez, rf Wright, 3b Beltran, cf Easley, 2b Delgado, 1b Tatis, lf Schneider, c Martinez, rhp Rubin also sez Mets confirm Church's trip to NY, though no DL yet.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:03 PM

J. Rollins SS S. Victorino CF C. Utley 2B R. Howard 1B P. Burrell LF G. Dobbs 3B J. Werth RF C. Coste C A. Eaton P

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:05 PM

Phils reliever Tom Gordon placed on the 15 day DL with right elbow inflammation following yesterdays game. Pitcher R.J. Swindle will replace Gordon on the roster.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:09 PM

Slight delay as the field needed some extra treatment due to the recent weather woes.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:11 PM

If your interested in voting David Wright in for the final All-Star Game spot, please vote. http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nym

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 05:14 PM

Reyes gets things started nicely with a leadoff single.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 05:16 PM

Follow that with a steal of second and a bunt single by Endy, and we're in business. First and third for Wright.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 05:18 PM

David brings home the run with a groundout to second. Not quite the three-run homer I was hoping for. Beltran up.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:21 PM

Wow. Wacky 1st. Reyes steals 2nd...I think..he stumbles and the ball got thru the catcher. He could have had 3rd, but Im just glad he didn't hurt himself. Chavez bunts him over. A perfect bunt that is thrown away and he gets a single. Then Wright hits a hump back liner to Utley that looked like a DP, but Chavez is called safe at second, umps saying Chase missed the tag...Reyes scores. Looks like Chavez was out to me but the other Manuel does not put up much of an argument. Easley drives in Chavez with a single to right!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:24 PM

Lets Go Pedro!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:30 PM

Nice first from Pedro. Two ground outs and a foul pop out to Wright. 1-2-3.

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2008 05:30 PM

Zvon wrote: Pitcher R.J. Swindle will replace Gordon on the roster. Sounds like what they'd name the dishonest lawyer in a bad sitcom.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:41 PM

I like how this is going so far. Tatis: infield single Tatis breaks up a possible DP with a nice slide. Two out walk to Reyes Chavez singles in a run. Wright doubles in two! WOOTOOTOOTILYDOO!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:43 PM

5-0 Mets after 1 and a half.

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 05:45 PM

Tonight we're driving in the RISP we left out there yesterday. The O seems to have some cahnfidence.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 05:46 PM

Hope you're all voting for Mr. Wright to make that All Star game, cuz If Burrell gets voted in ahead of him for that last spot I'm gonna hurl.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 05:55 PM

I was driving home from the library listening to the game on my wife's XM radio. Phillies announcers are horrible. Now, I realize that they're all homers. But this was lame banter. When Tatis got his hit, Larry Sorenson was all over him for his "tired act" after hitting the home run, saying he practically somersaulted around the bases. "If a guy did that against Nolan, he'd be in the hospital." Then, after Chavez's rbi, one of the two said that it was his ninth. And Sorenson says, "9???" making fun of him for having only nine rbi. I was almost longing for Joe Morgan.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 05:56 PM

Get home. Change clothes. Get dinner. Check score. 5-0. Drop dinner. Stain carpet/feed dog.

KC Jul 07 2008 05:57 PM

Better than kick dog.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:00 PM

AG/DC wrote: Get home. Change clothes. Get dinner. Check score. 5-0. Drop dinner. Stain carpet/feed dog. 8. Vote for Mr. Wright. ;)

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:07 PM

Oberkfell at first looks like he's thinking to himself, "I can't believe this is Pedro Martinez, standing right here next to me, talking to me."

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:08 PM

KC wrote: Better than kick dog. The dog got whatever the carpet didn't. Plus the red cabbage, which he apparently didn't like.

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 06:09 PM

Rout on! Two out RBIs make me happy.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:09 PM

I LOVE how this is going so far 8-0 And thats all for Eaton. Phils phans are boooooooin him so loud you should be able to hear it at home Edgy.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:10 PM

We have a nice opportunity here to burn through their bullpen before the Cardinal series.

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2008 06:14 PM

Hey, once you drop your dinner you no longer have to feed the dog. Considering the defense they're getting tonight, the Phils would be better off with Trooper Dobbs at 3rd

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:20 PM

Hey, Pedro got his ERA under 7.00!

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 06:24 PM

Just watched all the wonderful video highlites on Gameday. Two plays that can easily get overlooked were (1) Tatis hustling down the line and going hard into Rollins after the diving stop Utley made on Schneider's hard shot and (2) the nice piece of hitting Schneider did to get his bat on a pitch low and way outside with the hit and run on. It's great to see the Mets hustling and playing aggressive baseball.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:28 PM

Pedro scoring from second on a single. He almost seemed to be off with the pitch.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:32 PM

AG/DC wrote: Hey, Pedro got his ERA under 7.00! And now it's over again!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:37 PM

Utley smacks HR # 25. Can't let these guys get back into this. It's only the 4th and the Phightin's can explode offensively. Chase supposed to be involved in the All Star Home Run Derby. He has this little snappy swing, all bat speed. Not really a HR type swing. I can only hope the derby messes up his swing for the rest of the season. (I actually like and respect Mr. Utley very much, and hate to say that ^, but if it helps the Mets make a run for it, tuff Tatis's)

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 06:46 PM

AG/DC wrote: AG/DC wrote: Hey, Pedro got his ERA under 7.00! And now it's over again! Back under!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:49 PM

Pedro tonight has been both awsum and erratic. At times: great control, hitting spots to perfection. At other times: looking like bad-Ollie. Only two hits and 3 walks for Philly, but if your watching you know what I'm saying. He threw a lot of pitches that inning, but gets out of it with minimal damage. Nice K on Coste to end it. How long does Pedro go?

soupcan Jul 07 2008 06:52 PM

On the radio earlier, Hagen (Hagin?) was talking about Rollins playing deep on the outfield grass and as he moved in - to the dirt I'm sure - he said that Rollins was now on 'the skin of the infield'. I've never heard that term. I like it though. Anybody?

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 06:57 PM

soupcan wrote: 'the skin of the infield' Sounds like a line from an upcoming Madonna song.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:57 PM

soupcan wrote: On the radio earlier, Hagen (Hagin?) was talking about Rollins playing deep on the outfield grass and as he moved in - to the dirt I'm sure - he said that Rollins was now on 'the skin of the infield'. I've never heard that term. I like it though. Anybody? I never have. I like that. I like any new terms, words, and phrases applied to baseball that paint an accurate picture of the action.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 06:57 PM

="TransMonk"] ="soupcan"]'the skin of the infield' Sounds like a line from an upcoming Madonna song.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:02 PM

five minutes. Not bad.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2008 07:02 PM

I was channel surfing after the end of the last half inning. On the YES network, Ellis Valentine is batting. They're showing the 1977 AS Game. (Rollins bluffs, doesn't go) Utley still up.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2008 07:05 PM

Here comes another past future Met: Willie Montanez.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:06 PM

To answer my own question, Ill take Pedro on an inning by inning basis unless he gets in real bad trouble. Limit him to 120 pitches, but I'm old school, doubt they let him stay in that long. He's currently in the low 90's. Phils broadcasters over the first few innings have built a pedestal of praise in regards to Martinez's career and his chances of making the Hall Of Fame. Very respectful. This Utley at bat is most important. HE RINGS HIM UP!

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:07 PM

I'd sure send him out for the sixth. But I don't get to talk to him in the dugout.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2008 07:08 PM

Phils out. Seaver to pitch the 7th. Will face Willie Randolph. I know what'll happen.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:09 PM

OO, the rook gets the mound. Swindle in. Its his MLB debut AND his birthday. Gratz R.J.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:10 PM

Fresh meat for the Mets offense to hopefully feast upon, as R.J. Swindle takes the mound for the Phillies.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:11 PM

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 07:11 PM

KaBoom for Mr. Wright. MK has a similar motion to Swindle's. Except I think MK's motion is more effective!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:12 PM

Nice to meet ya Swindle. Happy birthday

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:12 PM

R.J. Swindle's career ERA: Infinity.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:13 PM

Wright goes off on the birthday boy! Welcome to the big leagues, R.J!

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:16 PM

Tick, tack, toe, three hits in a row! Not a good move Charlie. Shudda saved him till the lefties were up if thats what he's there for.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:17 PM

Swindle trying to rob back some of his cahnfidence as he Ks lefty Delgado on three pitches.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2008 07:19 PM

This games' going pretty well so far, I'd say. Better than the 6-2 win I was looking for on page 1 of this thread.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:20 PM

Tatis draws a walk and the bases are juiced for Schneider with one out.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:22 PM

He walks Tatis, and bases loaded for lefty Schneider. No one warming up for Philly. Schneid lifts an infield pop out. If Pedro reaches Ill have to laugh.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:23 PM

LOL

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:24 PM

It's not nice to laugh, Zvon. Ah, hell go ahead, I am. I doubt the Mets get invited to Swindles next Birthday party.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:27 PM

Is Easley hurt?

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:30 PM

Did I ever mention how much I hat Burrell? Thats it for Martinez after Dobbs doubles.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:31 PM

Pedro suddenly isn't fooling anyone. Burrell homers and Dobbs doubles so Pedro's night is over. Armas will come in to put out the Phillies uprising.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:32 PM

Fist bump snd a cheek slap from Pedro after he turns the ball over to Armas.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:32 PM

AG/DC wrote: Is Easley hurt? They said he came up tender on that play at the plate. Leg/calf? I was afk afew. CBS Sportsline has him still in. That accurate?

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:36 PM

Gameday still has him manning second.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:36 PM

He's still in, but the Phils' booth was surprised to see him get thrown out.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 07:39 PM

Ron Darling needs a ride to the West Side after the game, since it's getting too late to catch a train back from Philly. Do we know anyone at the game who could give him a ride?

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:39 PM

AG/DC wrote: He's still in, but the Phils' booth was surprised to see him get thrown out. So was I, and he definitely slowed down on his way home. Armas closes the book for Pedro nicely with 2 Ks.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:40 PM

We're starting to get into pull-the-starters territory. Aguila, you go to left and send Tatis to third. Reyes, you go in for Reyes. What do you mean, you're confused?

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 07:44 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2008 07:47 PM

Phillies Manuel decided to get Utley out of potential harm's way and sends Bruntlett in to play second base the rest of the way. The Mets should follow Edgy's advice and do likewise. Edited for mispelling of Bruntlett

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:44 PM

Chase Utley outta the game. Thank you Charlie for throwin up the white flag, which is what that means to me. They will have Swindle continue to assess what it is they have here in this young birthday boy. And he puts in a 1-2-3 inning.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 07:45 PM

SNY is going to let fans Call the Booth next inning. Which means that this is officially a rout.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 07:54 PM

Hold off on pulling the starters! I want this one signed, sealed and delivered.

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 07:57 PM

How many HR's can umpires botch this year? Instant replay, please.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 07:57 PM

NO! BAD CALL! They reverse the ground rule double by Howard! They had it right the 1st time! And our Manual gets tossed!

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 07:58 PM

Manuel tossed. Good for him...the Mets got screwed.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 07:59 PM

This is totally bogus! A Phillies fan shouldn't be allowed to interfere with a ball that Endy could have caught and then have it called a homer!

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 07:59 PM

My word.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:00 PM

tmf: this is officially a rout<<< Very out of character ... nothing is safe in that hell-forsaken bandbox.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:01 PM

Yes, and it reinforces why I shouldn't assume stuff like that.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:02 PM

Right before the strikeout, Gary announced that they wouldn't be taking phone calls after all. Ron confirmed, "No - it's a close game again."

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:05 PM

Heilman comes on and Ks Burrell, who I hat. VOTE MR. WRIGHT NOW! Swindle stays on. Lets get some more runs.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:06 PM

One other thing, how could a ball 15-20 feet over his head be caught by Endy?

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:09 PM

Some kid behind the plate is doing the "Angels in the Outfield" wing flap. I can't, for the life of me, imagine why.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:09 PM

If they can rewrite history to call that a homer, I can rewrite it just as accurately to say that it was on its way down and into Endy's glove. Both scenarios are equally plausible.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:10 PM

KC wrote: One other thing, how could a ball 15-20 feet over his head be caught by Endy? Do not doubt anything Chavez can do with a glove. He could jump 30 feet and catch it on the way down.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:12 PM

Swindle's fastball is so slow that most of the time Gameday still labels it a changeup. Either that or his fastball really is 82-84 mph and his change up is either 81-83 mph or 74-75 mph. Whatever it is he's throwing, the Mets suddenly can't hit it.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:12 PM

tmf: Both scenarios are equally plausible<<< Ridiculous. We need six outs.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:14 PM

Less ridiculous than that call reversal and ejecting Jerry to boot.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:15 PM

Maybe to you.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:15 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Swindle's fastball is so slow that most of the time Gameday still labels it a changeup. Either that or his fastball really is 82-84 mph and his change up is either 81-83 mph or 74-75 mph. Whatever it is he's throwing, the Mets suddenly can't hit it. Last inning he K'd Delgado on a 58 mph ...something.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:15 PM

Zvon wrote: ="KC"]One other thing, how could a ball 15-20 feet over his head be caught by Endy? Do not doubt anything Chavez can do with a glove. He could jump 30 feet and catch it on the way down. Just ask Scott Rolen!

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:16 PM

Looooooooooooong at bat by Dobbs. Heilman gets the K, though.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:17 PM

Camera switches to Santana sitting in the dugout as the ball is hit into play. Whoops!

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:17 PM

Great battle between Dobbs and Heilman, but Heilman finally gets the K for the first out of the inning.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:20 PM

4 to go.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2008 08:22 PM

10 - 7, need four outs. Jenkins 2 run bomb.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:21 PM

Jenkins homers to cut the lead to 10-7. Which probably means we get Wagner next inning.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:22 PM

GOD DAMN. 10-7 after another moon shot.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:22 PM

Gary: Jenkins is two for his last forty. TWO for FORTY! The home run was a foregone conclusion, no?

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 08:22 PM

Well, we're getting closer to getting fucked. Cue Wagner.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:22 PM

Suddenly, this game isn't such a laugher.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:23 PM

Suddenly, pulling Utley looks not so good.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 08:24 PM

Anything can happen once the Alomars are in charge.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:25 PM

Onto the 9th!

KC Jul 07 2008 08:25 PM

VCF: The home run was a foregone conclusion, no?<<< Foregone how?

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:25 PM

we cannot lose this game If we do I may have to join Grote in Schmuckville till 2009.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:28 PM

TATIS! WTF YA DOIN!!!??? It was a single right to Burrell. Pat may suck in left but he don't suck THAT much.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:28 PM

Ugh. Tatis had no shot at a double on that play. Let's hope that doesn't come into play later in this inning. Wags is throwing in the pen...

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:28 PM

A for effort, Fernando. Not so much for brains.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:29 PM

KC - "Foregone how?" The momentum has crossed over to the opposing side of the field. With it went much of the confidence of Mets boosters. Many then start to fatalistically, assume the worst.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:29 PM

Zvon wrote: If we do I may have to join Grote in Schmuckville till 2009. Is that anywhere near Bumbleass?

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:30 PM

Next town over, I believe.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:31 PM

Here we go.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:31 PM

Officially -- but quietly -- worried.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:31 PM

Sandman Time.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:33 PM

="KC"]VCF: The home run was a foregone conclusion, no?<<< Foregone how? I'm just buying into the whole "the broadcasters jinxed us" nonsense. I'm actually confident Wagner will get this save, anyone else?

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:33 PM

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:34 PM

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote: I'm actually confident Wagner will get this save, anyone else? Gots 2 b.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:34 PM

="Vince Coleman Firecracker"] ="KC"]VCF: The home run was a foregone conclusion, no?<<< Foregone how? I'm just buying into the whole "the broadcasters jinxed us" nonsense. I'm actually confident Wagner will get this save, anyone else? Why not? Odds grossly in his favor.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:35 PM

Leadoff double by Shane BigDorito.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:36 PM

Still confident. I think.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:36 PM

Baseball is hard.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:37 PM

="Vince Coleman Firecracker"] ="KC"]VCF: The home run was a foregone conclusion, no?<<< Foregone how? I'm just buying into the whole "the broadcasters jinxed us" nonsense. I'm actually confident Wagner will get this save, anyone else? Not me.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:37 PM

Thats how Maine gets those silly arm cramps. Hangin over the dugout rail like that. Lead off double by Victorino and that was LITERALLY on the white line, a rope to the left field corner.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:39 PM

A walk and the tying run comes to the plate. No outs. Visit from old white guy.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:40 PM

Once again, for my sanity: Ryan Howard vs LHP, 2008: .188/.247/.355

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:40 PM

Bruntlett walks and now Howard steps in as the potential tying run. I feel a 4-6-3 DP coming on.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:40 PM

Note: Pedro Feliz is still on the Phillie bench.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:41 PM

Our All-Star is really starting to get my goat.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:41 PM

BIG K of Ryan Howard. One down.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:42 PM

Wags handles Howard. Now this jerk. Go get 'em Billy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 08:42 PM

Who doesn;t see this ending badly

holychicken Jul 07 2008 08:43 PM

why do they do this to me? why do the mets hate me?

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:43 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Who doesn;t see this ending badly I'd still be surprised if they lose. YES 2 out.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:43 PM

Phew! Long out by Burrell and one out to go. Feliz as the PH.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:44 PM

Getting Burrell: bigger than getting Howard. Here comes Feliz.

KC Jul 07 2008 08:44 PM

Lotta drama, down to one out.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:45 PM

Feliz will not beat us again.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:45 PM

AG/DC wrote: Getting Burrell: bigger than getting Howard. Here comes Feliz. Amen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 08:46 PM

Fucking pathetic

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:47 PM

Mother fucker! RBI by Feliz, error on the throw allows ANOTHER run to score. 10-9 and runner on second fucking base.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:47 PM

Well, Wagner got a ground ball.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 08:47 PM

Fuck Wagner, he had a 3 fucking run lead

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:47 PM

GAH!!!!!!!!!! Little league play! 10-9 K, alls we need is one out.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:47 PM

Well, that conference didn't work.

Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:48 PM

(exhale)

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2008 08:48 PM

Piece of cake

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2008 08:48 PM

Wagner can go make love to an alpaca.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:48 PM

Game ovah. They had em all the way. /takes suicide pill out of mouth...

Zvon Jul 07 2008 08:48 PM

TransMonk Jul 07 2008 08:49 PM

Not pretty...but Mission Accomplished!

KC Jul 07 2008 08:49 PM

Ain't nuttin' but a thing, we'll be in first place by the break!

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:50 PM

Some fucking closer. I can't believe he's getting a save for this shit.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:50 PM

Take that, Phillie Punks! We were toying with you, messing with your heads! But let's not make a habit of it...

A Boy Named Seo Jul 07 2008 08:50 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ="seawolf17"]I'd even take a 3-2 loss if we get six quality innings from Pedro. He may not be PEDRO any longer, but they need him to be something if they're going to come back and win this thing -- and splitting four games in Philly, whereas it's not ideal, is not the end of the world either, especially considering the Fish are on a tough West Coast swing right now and our guys are heading home to face two teams they should be able to beat. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. Win tonight as ugly as it needs to be. Pedro can work on his cometics at AAA for all I care. Good call, Dickshot.

Grote15 Jul 07 2008 08:51 PM

We win when I post shit so I'm a goin.. Wagner our fucktard all-star LETS-GO-METS LETS-GO METS Great job guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 08:51 PM

Put it in the books!!! Piece of cake. Never in doubt. Is anyone buying that? Me neither. This was a big win, but the way the bullpen imploded and turned a laugher into a nausea inducing nailbiter is quite disheartening.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:51 PM

Damn thing is over:

Gwreck Jul 07 2008 08:51 PM

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Fman99 Jul 07 2008 08:52 PM

I'm still palpitating.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:53 PM

Matt Yaloff in the studio started off the post-game show by shouting, "I can't take it anymore!"

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:54 PM

7 out of 10 phrom the Phils, 2.5 phrom phirst. Big win.

AG/DC Jul 07 2008 08:55 PM

W: Manuel L: Manuel S: Alomar, Sr. How about going after Werthe instead of Coste? Sounds like a dumb economic strategy anyhow.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 08:55 PM

Well, at least Wagner is making progress. Yesterday, he allowed them to tie the game. Today, he left the tying run on scoring position. Tomorrow....

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2008 08:55 PM

I turned this thing off at 10-2 and kept peeking in every once in a while ... and every time I did it was getting closer even though I missed all the scoring. Then I watched bottom 9.

holychicken Jul 07 2008 08:56 PM

Sorry, this was all my fault. I turned off the game at 10-1 and went to play videogames. I looked at the score online in the 9th and it was 10-7. . .I RUSH downstairs just in time to see Beltran's ill-advised throw and Wright pulling his glove away from it. . . but I helped Wagner get that last guy out. I pretty much was there only for the good stuff. Go me. I might not be able to sleep for a bit.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 07 2008 08:56 PM

AG/DC wrote: How about going after Werthe instead of Coste? Sounds like a dumb economic strategy anyhow. Bahdum, ching!

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 08:59 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Well, at least Wagner is making progress. Yesterday, he allowed them to tie the game. Today, he left the tying run on scoring position. Tomorrow.... Yesterday he gave up 2 in the 9th. Today he gave up 2 in the 9th. That's not progress. That's a bigger cushion.

KC Jul 07 2008 09:01 PM

tmf: Matt Yaloff in the studio started off the post-game show by shouting, "I can't take it anymore!"<<< Cool, maybe he'll go away and take Maz with him next year.

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2008 09:01 PM

I know people are really down on Wagner after last night, but he had a lot of "help" in making this game overly exciting and nervewracking. Both Armas and Heilman did theior part to screw up this game. Fortunately, the Mets held onto this one and were able to get the win. I just wish they could have hammered and embarrassed the Phillies after what had to be a demoralizing loss for them last night.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 09:04 PM

The other Manuel is being asked about removing Chase Utley during the post game press conference. Says: "ugh,...we were down,..we were down 10-2,..ugh,..and Chase is pretty banged up, ..ugh, and I felt he ,ugh(sniff)..needed the rest". Swindle was in so long due to Rudy Seanez back spasms making him not available and ol' Charlie did not want to use Romero tonight.

themetfairy Jul 07 2008 09:06 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: I know people are really down on Wagner after last night, but he had a lot of "help" in making this game overly exciting and nervewracking. Both Armas and Heilman did theior part to screw up this game. The difference is that Amas and Heilman haven't trashed any of their Mets teammates in the press for not doing their jobs. If he's going to talk the talk, then he'd better damn well walk the walk. Walk being a figurative term, and not to mean bases on balls.

KC Jul 07 2008 09:11 PM

RD: Fortunately, the Mets held onto this one and were able to get the win<<< Fortunately, they scored 10 instead of 8 is what it boils down to. Hopefully the misplaced venom will wear off after a good night's sleep for some of the unhappy campers.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 09:12 PM

themetfairy wrote: ="Rockin' Doc"]I know people are really down on Wagner after last night, but he had a lot of "help" in making this game overly exciting and nervewracking. Both Armas and Heilman did theior part to screw up this game. The difference is that Amas and Heilman haven't trashed any of their Mets teammates in the press for not doing their jobs. If he's going to talk the talk, then he'd better damn well walk the walk. Walk being a figurative term, and not to mean bases on balls. Good call.

soupcan Jul 07 2008 09:14 PM

A win is a win is a win I guess, but geez Louise that was a tough 9th inning to sit through.

Zvon Jul 07 2008 09:21 PM

So it was ugly. So we all had to sweat through it. Who cares, we needed to win this game. And we did. So the Mets have a way to break your heart sometimes. Thats the way baseball is. They also have given us and baseball some of the most fantastic moments the game has ever seen over the years. And whether you put out positive optimism or negative pessimism we are all here for one reason. Cause we care deeply about this team, these major leaguers who bear our teams crest, these Metropoltans. I thank you all for your company. ________________________ is that too over the top?^

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2008 09:26 PM

Not at all! And no game is complete without Zvon graphics!

MFS62 Jul 07 2008 09:28 PM

On the radio, the three Mets announcers paid homage to a famous Bob Murphy quote after a similar Met win over the phillies. ("They won the damn game") My sentiments were reflected by a quote from the late great Pirate announcer Bob Prince, who said in similar circumstances, "We had 'em all the way". (Except I never refer to teams I root for as "we") Later

Number 6 Jul 07 2008 09:30 PM

I'm trying to keep things in perspective. The Mets took 3 out of 4 from the Phillies. But man, that was frustrating.

seawolf17 Jul 08 2008 07:12 AM

MFS62 wrote: On the radio, the three Mets announcers paid homage to a famous Bob Murphy quote after a similar Met win over the phillies. ("They won the damn game") My sentiments were reflected by a quote from the late great Pirate announcer Bob Prince, who said in similar circumstances, "We had 'em all the way". (Except I never refer to teams I root for as "we") Later They played the Murphy clip after the "last out" highlight on the FAN this morning. Classic, classic, classic. What's odd is that I remember that game as the Mario Diaz Game, since he's the guy who caught the final out.

soupcan Jul 08 2008 07:33 AM

And as I read this morning, the Murphy game was against the Phils in Philly and the final score was 10-9.

Centerfield Jul 08 2008 07:50 AM

Gary Cohen said that too last night. I think he said "In the immortal words of Bob Murphy, the Mets win the damn game." If I remember correctly, Gary is laughing his head off in the background when Bob mutters his famous line.

Vic Sage Jul 08 2008 09:06 AM

Zvon wrote: ...And whether you put out positive optimism or negative pessimism we are all here for one reason... as a general outlook, i favor positive pessimism, though i must admit that I am, on occasion, negatively optimistic.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 08 2008 09:13 AM

I'm not here for the positive optimism or for the negative pessimism. I like the repetitive redundancies.