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Gay Dame IGT, Zito v. Maine, 7/10/08

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 07:29 AM

Jerry talking as if Argenis Reyes and Nick Evans will get starts this afternoon. Zito we all know has been awful this season but coming off a good start. I'm a little bit worried about Maine, hopefully the O makes this an easy day for him and he enjoys a nice break.

SteveJRogers Jul 10 2008 07:39 AM

Beat me to it Johnny DickCouguarBucket! Heading over actually. Got a modest one game Met win streak going!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 07:41 AM

It would suck if the Mets beat the Giants' two best starters, and then lost to the awful one. Argenis Reyes has played well enough that I won't begrudge him a start, but having him and Evans in the lineup on the same day might weaken the lineup too much. Hopefully Castro starts instead of Schneider. I think I'd put Argenis in the second slot, so we don't have a relative dead zone of A. Reyes/Evans/Maine.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2008 07:49 AM

DGANG almost certainly means Schneider. Both yesterday and today were LHPs so I was thinking going in that it's just a matter of which game Castro got and which Schneider did. Be nice to get the sweep. I thought 4 of 6 was pretty much a minimum for these final two series before the ASB. Taking the first 3 puts us ahead of the game.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 08:11 AM

I kind of hate Schnedier against lefties, relative to Castro. And I hope with the relative amount of rest Castro has gotten, one DGaaNG won't kill him.

soupcan Jul 10 2008 08:17 AM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I'm a little bit worried about Maine, hopefully the O makes this an easy day for him and he enjoys a nice break. He doesn't seem to be... ]The right-hander John Maine plans to start Thursday’s series finale against the Giants although he left his last start, a 9-4 victory Saturday over Philadelphia, with pain in his left elbow. “It’s my left arm, so I don’t care,” Maine said Wednesday, laughing. Maine said he might have hurt his arm while swinging a bat against the Phillies. He threw a side session Monday and he said he felt little pain in his left arm — but not enough that he would consider it a handicap. He had not swung a bat since Saturday. “If I’m out there, I’m not babying it,” he said. I also saw last night on one of the myriad of post-post-game shows that Jerry said that Castro will not play today.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 08:33 AM

This smells like a pretty weak lineup then. My guess, as of 10:30 a.m.: J.Reyes ss Chavez rf Wright 3b Beltran cf Delgado 1b Schneider c A. Reyes 2b Evans lf Maine p Not too imposing. I guess the saving grace here is that the Mets are playing a team that tends to score zero runs per game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 08:38 AM

I'm going with the Scrub Special: JReyes SS AReyes 2B Wright 3B Beltran CF Tatis 1B Evans LF Aguila RF Schneider C Maine P

bmfc1 Jul 10 2008 08:52 AM

Zito says that it will be "fun" to pitch today and also says that the Mets "badmouthed" him. I found this in today's Chronicle: All week, the tabloids here have gone cuckoo over the impending divorce of Alex Rodriguez and his wife, Cynthia, as well as their alleged love quadrangle with rockers Madonna and Lenny Kravitz. Wednesday's New York Post, for instance, wrote about a stripper who supposedly had an affair with A-Rod. The story quoted friends of the woman describing Rodriguez as "beautiful," "very attractive" and "well-endowed." Barry Zito, who pitches in today's series finale at Shea Stadium, acknowledged that stuff such as that played into his decision to sign with the Giants rather than the Mets, who also pursued him. "I knew that would be a factor, the media markets," Zito said. "You get exposed and you don't really have a personal life anymore. It becomes so much more inflated than the reality is, which is, we're just playing ball. I think buying into the lie that we're doing something so important, I think it hurts our performance because we feel our performance is determining the fate of the world. A lot of times in huge media markets you can start to think that." Zito has seen the A-Rod stuff in the papers and said, "It's just a shame. I don't know what the real story is. Only a limited amount of people do. It's just a shame that society is geared this way where we put someone's details of their lives or problems on the front page. It's a shame that people are entertained more with the downfalls and struggles of certain peoples in the spotlight than they are with their successes." Zito can only imagine how he would have been treated in New York if he signed with the Mets for $126 million and started a season 4-12. Last year, Zito was 11-13, with two of his wins against the Mets. In fact, he pitched seven shutout innings in a victory at Shea and acknowledged he throws with a little extra motivation against the Mets because he believes team officials bad-mouthed his abilities two winters ago in a bid to lower his signing price. He noted he won his first 11 decisions against the Rangers, who drafted him in 1998 but, in Zito's mind, tried to lowball him. "It's always fun to go out and pitch well against the team that said certain things about you," he said. "Now that I'm kind of pitching the way I should be, it will be fun." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/09/SPIF11ME2P.DTL (emphasis added)

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 09:03 AM

Translation: Barry prefers a city where he pitch terribly and bed muscle-bound strippers in relative anonymity. Couldn't. Resist. Bad Edgy.

Gwreck Jul 10 2008 09:26 AM

Mets lineup ([url=http://mets.lohudblogs.com]source[/url]): Reyes SS Reyes 2B Wright 3B Beltran CF Tatis RF Delgado 1B Evans LF Schneider C Maine P

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 09:28 AM

Damn, I knew my insertion of Aguila and sitting of Delgado was too aggressive. Still, I got the first 5 right and therefore deserve a cold frosty beer.

themetfairy Jul 10 2008 09:35 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Damn, I knew my insertion of Aguila and sitting of Delgado was too aggressive. Still, I got the first 5 right and therefore deserve a cold frosty beer. Fine, but at least wait until noon to drink it!

Number 6 Jul 10 2008 09:36 AM

They should bring up Jose A. and bat him 3rd. That is, if he's still with the organization, which I'm too lazy to look up.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 09:54 AM

The Reyesest team you can field: Jose Reyes, ss, New York Mets Argenis Reyes, 2b, New York Mets Raul Reyes, cf, Savannah Sand Gnats Julio Reyes, 1b, Olmecas de Tabasco Rene Reyes, lf, Pericos de Puebla Leonardo Reyes, rf, Tri-City Dust Devils Guillermo Reyes, 3b, Mobile BayBears Jose A. Reyes, c, Esterellas del Oriente JoJo Reyes, sp, Atlanta Braves Dennys Ryes, rp, Mnnesota Twins Anthony Reyes, rp, St. Louis Cardinals Al Reyes, rp, Tampa Bay (Devil) Reyes

Number 6 Jul 10 2008 10:20 AM

I couldn't even be bothered (arsed?) to look up where Jose A. landed. Meanwhile, you're looking at the roster of the Tri-City Dust Devils. I just can't compete in this league.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2008 10:34 AM

AG/DC wrote: The Reyesest team you can field: Jose Reyes, ss, New York Mets Argenis Reyes, 2b, New York Mets Raul Reyes, cf, Savannah Sand Gnats Julio Reyes, 1b, Olmecas de Tabasco Rene Reyes, lf, Pericos de Puebla Leonardo Reyes, rf, Tri-City Dust Devils Guillermo Reyes, 3b, Mobile BayBears Jose A. Reyes, c, Esterellas del Oriente JoJo Reyes, sp, Atlanta Braves Dennys Ryes, rp, Mnnesota Twins Anthony Reyes, rp, St. Louis Cardinals Al Reyes, rp, Tampa Bay (Devil) Reyes The sport of kings!

metirish Jul 10 2008 10:56 AM

Tha way Zito is jawing I might think he's 12 - 4 , STFU.

Gwreck Jul 10 2008 11:25 AM

metirish wrote: Tha way Zito is jawing I might think he's 12 - 4 , STFU. No kidding. Also, this is not the first time Zito has faced the Mets since he signed the big money deal. Surprising to see him doing this now.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 11:33 AM

This is, I think, the third blue-cap day in a row. No pinstripes, though.

holychicken Jul 10 2008 11:38 AM

Maine a little wild. . . 3 walks already and about even on strikes to balls. . .and that is with 2 strikeouts in a row to end the second. Hopefully he has settled down. BTW, how the hell am I supposed to work with a game on?

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 11:47 AM

Schneider vs. lefties going into this at-bat: .204 / .259 / .204 // .463 It's not Wagner got Willie fired. (Naturally, Schneider sticks it to me by getting a walk and at least clearing the pitcher. Good man.)

metsguyinmichigan Jul 10 2008 11:50 AM

Zito says badmouthing drove him away from an East Coast team he had no intention of signing with, but would use as leverage to drive up the price of a contract for a team in California, where he wanted to be all along. He should be sending flowers to whoever he thinks did the badmouthing, because he got exactly what he wanted.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 11:50 AM

Ralph Kiner in the booth! He's looking dapper in his SNY shirt.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 12:02 PM

Argenis Reyes, hitting .400.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:04 PM

Beltran, for some reason, does the unorthodox and instead of taking a called third strike, like he does in EVERY OTHER AT BAT, singles home the go-ahead run.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:06 PM

Two run double for Tatis! 3-0 Mets! (Beltran ignores Aguayo's stop sign and scores the third run.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 12:16 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 10 2008 12:20 PM

Radio guys say Wright's reaching by error was a tough score and that he prolly deserved a single. Wayne Hagin forgot to tell me what base Wright wound up on after Beltran's RBI single (it was 2nd). I hate when that happens. Hagin and Rose seemed in disagreement over wether Beltran would be caught had the throw not been cut. Hagin called it like Beltran ran through and would've been meat had it not been cut, Howie was like he had it all the way and was right to ignore the sign.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:19 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Radio guys say Wright's reaching by error was a tough score and that he prolly deserved a single. TV guys agreed. Wright really smacked that pitch. Maine's up to 80 pitches with 2 out in the fourth.

Centerfield Jul 10 2008 12:20 PM

Damn. There goes the shutout streak. Still 3-1 good guys.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 12:22 PM

Have the Mets ever swept a three-game set by shutout? Something says 1979 to me.

Centerfield Jul 10 2008 12:33 PM

Wright works the walk. If nothing else, we're pumping up Zito's pitch count.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:36 PM

AG/DC wrote: Have the Mets ever swept a three-game set by shutout? Something says 1979 to me. Really? That would be very surprising. I'll have to see if I can find anything in the UMDB.

Mendoza Line Jul 10 2008 12:38 PM

AG/DC wrote: Have the Mets ever swept a three-game set by shutout? Something says 1979 to me. Slowish day at work, so I checked 1977-1984 on bbref. No three-game series swept by shutout, though the Mets won three consecutive shutouts June 13-15, 1984.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 12:45 PM

I'm either confusing the years, or possibly recalling the Mets being swept by shutout over three games circa 1979. Which wouldn't be very surprising.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:46 PM

September 1969 against the Phillies: 5-0, 1-0, 2-0. (And prior to those three games, they beat the Cardinals 6-0. That was the only time they ever had four shutouts in a row.) They had three in a row five times, once earlier that same September, then again in May of 1970, June of 1984, May of 1985, and April of 1988. But none of those were series sweeps.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 12:46 PM

We ain't sweeping anything as long as Maine is walking the opposing pitcher and the freeswinging leadoff hack.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 12:48 PM

The Mets have been shutout three times in a row three times: September 1963, June 1975, and July 1992. None of those were series sweeps.

holychicken Jul 10 2008 12:52 PM

Well, that's what you get for walking the pitcher and the leadoff hitter to start an inning :(

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 12:55 PM

OK, boys Time to loosen up, grow some beards, play with kids, and go out and beat up some Giants.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 01:08 PM

You know this all was caused by premature consultation with the record books on consecutive shutouts.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 01:17 PM

I'd take that one on mice elf, but I didn't bring it up until the first run was yielded.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 01:18 PM

Oh, and please don't pull a perfectly good pitcher after five only to have a professional hitter go up there and bunt. I hate that.

Number 6 Jul 10 2008 01:25 PM

Do I ever despise the bunt there. Bring in a pinch-hitter in a tie game in the 6th(!), to bunt a very slow-footed runner to second who can't score on most singles anyway. Blech.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 01:25 PM

Ngklalsdf!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 01:25 PM

He was hitting for Muniz, not Maine. But I do agree that it's a waste of a bench player, a commodity that's become too rare with the growth of the standard pitching staff.

Number 6 Jul 10 2008 01:25 PM

AG/DC wrote: Oh, and please don't pull a perfectly good pitcher after five only to have a professional hitter go up there and bunt. I hate that. Yeah, and that.

Centerfield Jul 10 2008 01:31 PM

Nice inning by Schoeneweis. Ben, does your nose smell anything for the bottom of the 7th?

Number 6 Jul 10 2008 01:34 PM

More bunts.

themetfairy Jul 10 2008 01:38 PM

Ka-Boom Tatis! 5-3 Mets :)

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2008 01:38 PM

Sorry, no. But I like the Tatis homer even though I didn't smell it in advance.

Fman99 Jul 10 2008 01:39 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You know this all was caused by premature consultation with the record books on consecutive shutouts. Ironically, premature consultation can often be fixed by thinking about baseball. Oh wait, what?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 01:42 PM

Ironically, I just climaxed over Fernando Tatis

MFS62 Jul 10 2008 01:43 PM

Tatis is hitting like its 1999.* Later *= Yes, that was a Prince reference. (Sorry if someone has used it before)

Fman99 Jul 10 2008 01:43 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ironically, I just climaxed over Fernando Tatis Irv, cleanup in isle 17!

soupcan Jul 10 2008 01:45 PM

That was awesome. Just back from a 2-Guinness lunch, flip on the Slingbox to see Tatis coming up with Wright on second. Gotta piss so I can't watch the at-bat. Run to the bathroom, come back having missed two pitches, first pitch I see - KABOOM! Oh yeah.

themetfairy Jul 10 2008 01:51 PM

Shoddy fielding lets the Mets tack on another run :)

soupcan Jul 10 2008 01:54 PM

I'm taking credit for this whole inning. Sorry I couldn't have gotten back sooner.

AG/DC Jul 10 2008 01:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 10 2008 01:56 PM

My boss walks in on me and quickly minimize my gameday screen showing a 3-3 tie with Wright on second. I pretend to care deeply about what she's saying, nod, smile, backslap, ass kiss, whatev. Soon's she leaves, I check my nose for brown matter, re-ope' the window, and we're up 6-3, sisters and brothers. We score again as I type! We go up by four, Billy Wagner sees his save total staying the same for another day.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 10 2008 01:55 PM

Giants can't wait to fly outta here.

themetfairy Jul 10 2008 01:56 PM

7-3 after seven. Gotta love those tack on runs :)

metirish Jul 10 2008 01:56 PM

If Willie were still manager the score would be 4-3.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 10 2008 02:21 PM

Wagner in the dreaded non-save situation.

sharpie Jul 10 2008 02:21 PM

Over. The Mets notch their third straight 3-hitter.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 10 2008 02:22 PM

metsguyinmichigan Jul 10 2008 02:23 PM

Awesome! Good job by the pen today.

themetfairy Jul 10 2008 02:24 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] Long time no see!

seawolf17 Jul 10 2008 02:44 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] I missed you, old man. I'm starting to love this team again, which is mighty dangerous.

Rockin' Doc Jul 10 2008 05:32 PM

Zito sure showed the Mets not to talk about him behind his back. Hey Zito, pitch more and bitch less.

Nymr83 Jul 10 2008 05:37 PM

oh, day game today, great. *remind self to check schedule in the morning instead of assuming there'll be agame to come home to

SteveJRogers Jul 10 2008 05:53 PM

="seawolf17"] ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] I missed you, old man. I'm starting to love this team again, which is mighty dangerous. JUST when we thought we were out! THEY PULL US BACK IN!

cooby Jul 10 2008 06:08 PM

I have a question. Are day games not on WFAN?

SteveJRogers Jul 10 2008 06:15 PM

Today's was. WFAN.com's internet stream though, no. Met games can never be on the FAN's internet stream.

cooby Jul 10 2008 06:21 PM

Ah, so that was the problem...now I no better than to even try. Thank you, Steve. SteveJRogers wrote: Today's was. WFAN.com's internet stream though, no. Met games can never be on the FAN's internet stream.

metirish Jul 10 2008 07:02 PM

Watching the replay and Sergio Romo's ( replaced Zito) eyes look very dark , like he should be in a goth band . I swear he has black makeup around his eyes.

cooby Jul 10 2008 07:22 PM

He probably got no sleep last night, worrying about facing the Mets

metirish Jul 10 2008 07:31 PM

cooby wrote: He probably got no sleep last night, worrying about facing the Mets No doubt :)