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Feliciano!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 05 2008 08:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 05 2008 09:29 PM

How does he do it? Feliciano vs. First Batters: Thanks for the fix Numbers thru 7/5: 15-38, 3 HR, 7 BB, 1 HBP 395 BAA, 605 OBAA only 1 blown save Date Opponent Batter Result 4/2 FLA Hoover 1B 4/9 PHL Bruntlett 1B 4/10 PHL Werth BB 4/13 MIL Fielder K 4/17 WAS N. Johnson BB 4/18 PHL Utley K 4/19 PHL Dobbs 1B 4/20 PHL Feliz HR 4/22 CHC Soto  i-BB 4/24 WAS Kearns lineout-3 4/25 ATL K. Johnson 1B 4/26 ATL Texiera K 4/27 ATL McCann groundout-3 4/29 PIT LaRoche popup-6 4/30 PIT Doumit 6-3 5/2 ARI Montero 5-3 5/4 ARI Burke E-1 5/6 LAD Hu 1B 5/10 CIN Ross 1B 5/11 CIN Patterson lineout-9 5/14 WAS Rauch K 5/20 ATL K. Johnson HBP 5/21 ATL K. Johnson BB 5/22 ATL McCann K 5/24 COL Holliday 5-3 5/26 FLA Cantu BB 5/29 LAD Loney 1B 5/30 LAD DeWitt 1B 6/1 LAD Martin foulout-3 6/3 SF Bowker popout-2 6/5 SD Gerut flyout-9 6/6 SD B. Giles 4-3 6/7 SD Hairston HR 6/10 ARI Drew K 6/11 ARI Burke BB 6/15 (1) TEX R. Vasquez 1B 6/15 (2) TEX R. Vasquez K 6/16 LAA Figgins 1B 6/20 COL Helton BB 6/24 SEA Cairo 1B 6/27 NYY Abreu K 6/28 NYY Betimit K 6/29 NYY Christianson lineout-9 7/1 STL Ankiel flyout-7 7/2 STL Duncan HR 7/5 PHL Werth 1B

Zvon Jul 05 2008 09:21 PM

That chart hurts my brain.

Nymr83 Jul 05 2008 09:38 PM

7 walks and a hbp to 46 batters isn't good, 9 k's doesnt quite cut it the real problem is that the 24 guys that neither struck out, got on base via balls (or hbp), or homered are 12-24 (with one reaching via error). and they've all been singles. that BABIP will come down.

AG/DC Jul 05 2008 09:45 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 05 2008 10:08 PM

I think I'm reading about BABiP way too much. The notion that it's a factor beyond a pitcher's control is still one I don't buy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 05 2008 10:03 PM

Nymr83 wrote: 7 walks and a hbp to 46 batters isn't good, 9 k's doesnt quite cut it the real problem is that the 24 guys that neither struck out, got on base via balls (or hbp), or homered are 12-24 (with one reaching via error). and they've all been singles. that BABIP will come down. Well, if it were much higher he wouldn't be employed anymore; but in the bigger picture, I'm not sure if it's a BABiP issue -- considering guys hit only 260 against him overall.

Nymr83 Jul 06 2008 01:26 AM

AG/DC wrote: I think I'm reading about BABiP way too much. The notion that it's a factor beyond a pitcher's control is still one I don't buy. i would expect pitcher A's babip to conform to pitcher A's historical babip, even if i were to reject the notion that babip will regress to a league average i think feliciano has been unlucky with leadoff singles this year

smg58 Jul 06 2008 06:59 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 06 2008 04:53 PM

AG/DC wrote: I think I'm reading about BABiP way too much. The notion that it's a factor beyond a pitcher's control is still one I don't buy. I don't think it's entirely beyond a pitcher's control, but there is an element of randomness involved in getting hits (particularly singles), plus the defense behind you plays a role. One factor I'd like to see get more attention in this regard is the isolated power (slugging-BA) that batters have against a pitcher. As a measure of extra-base hits, that should tell you how hard he's being hit, and that's a factor of BABIP that a pitcher generally does control.

metsmarathon Jul 06 2008 07:41 AM

for those balls in play, is he getting a lot of ground balls that are finding holes, fly balls that outfielders aren't catching up to, or are they line drives?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2008 07:48 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="AG/DC"]I think I'm reading about BABiP way too much. The notion that it's a factor beyond a pitcher's control is still one I don't buy. i would expect pitcher A's babip to conform to pitcher A's historical babip, even if i were to reject the notion that babip will regress to a league average i think feliciano has been unlucky with leadoff singles this year But that's the whole point. He's brought in to face specific batters, so these are situations in which he's meant to succeed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2008 02:45 PM

This would be a good time to improve these figures, doncha think?

AG/DC Jul 06 2008 02:51 PM

Gameday shows Howard standing out there in the batter's box, getting soaked while everyone else has left the field. Advantage Feliciano, I think.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 06 2008 05:14 PM

wham