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The Phirst Phight Phur Phirst: IGT Phils @ Mets - 7/22/08

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 04:36 PM

The Phirst Phight Phur Phirst (Philet of Phish watch, too: IGT Phils @ Mets - 7/22/08 Phils 1. J. Rollins, SS 2. C. Utley, 2B 3. P. Burrell, LF 4. R. Howard, 1B 5. J. Werth, RF 6. P. Feliz, 3B 7. S. Victorino, CF 8. C. Ruiz, C 9. J. Blanton, P Mets 1. J. Reyes, SS 2. E. Chavez, RF 3. D. Wright, 3B 4. C. Beltran, CF 5. C. Delgado, 1B 6. D. Easley, 2B 7. M. Anderson, LF 8. R. Castro, C (2d straight start - both against RHP's) 9. J. Santana, P

metirish Jul 22 2008 05:05 PM

Lets

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 05:06 PM

Go

Zvon Jul 22 2008 05:15 PM

Zvon Jul 22 2008 05:17 PM

Damn, three two out singles and the Phils draw first blood.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 05:23 PM

Endy gets a one-out single. It would be very nice to get that one run back here. (Or more, of course!) Come on, David!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 05:24 PM

I'm blacked out here in the Philadelphia market. What are the Mets wearing? Blue caps? Pinstripes?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 05:24 PM

I'm afraid my psychic intuition is sensing a double play. Hope I'm wrong.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 05:25 PM

I am! Fly out to center. Not what I was hoping for, but better than a DP. Maybe Carlos will homer for us.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 05:38 PM

Blue Caps and Snow white tops.

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 06:00 PM

The Mets tie the game on Wright's double. Endy made them throw him out at the plate - only a perfect throw from Rollins kept the Mets from taking the lead on the play.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 06:06 PM

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 06:06 PM

Vamos Carlos! Delgado's 2-run Kaboom gives the Mets a 3-1 lead.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 06:08 PM

Carlos Delgado is making a case for his return in 2009. I'm so glad the "Mike Carp can't be any worse" crowd didn't get their way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 06:41 PM

That home run by Delgado was pretty awesome. He seemed to adjust at the very last instant then absolutely smashed it, off the ground and into the sky. Oh, well flies out this time. Was Charlie Manuel run? I had the sound down but he had a beef with that attempted pickoff of Reyes.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 06:44 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Was Charlie Manuel run? I had the sound down but he had a beef with that attempted pickoff of Reyes. Yep. For arguing a check swing called no swing during Delgado's at bat, according to Phils broadcast.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 06:46 PM

themetfairy wrote: The Mets tie the game on Wright's double. Endy made them throw him out at the plate - only a perfect throw from Rollins kept the Mets from taking the lead on the play. The Phils played that well all around and so because they did everything right a mediocre throw would have had him too. Keith was all over that as a good play but, with no outs, I'm not as sold. Yeah, Manuel was run between innings, presuably dicsussing the non-call on the Delgado half-swing a coupla pitches prior to the HR

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 06:47 PM

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 06:47 PM

Zvon Jul 22 2008 06:48 PM

Castro blastro!

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 06:48 PM

That was a nice shot. I like Jerry's strategy of having the Mets keep on scoring :)

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 06:52 PM

="themetfairy"]I like Jerry's strategy of having the Mets keep on scoring :) I really hope it isn't true that Willie didn't follow that strategy!

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 06:56 PM

It doesn't matter whether it's true. It matters whether the players think it's true.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 06:57 PM

If we can get 2 runs with bases empty, 2 out and Marlon Anderson up, anything is possible. Jerry for MOTY.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 22 2008 06:58 PM

themetfairy wrote: It doesn't matter whether it's true. It matters whether the players think it's true. Good point. I'm so glad the Willie Randolph days are behind us. Meanwhile, Santana's thrown 76 pitches through 6. (And Blanton has thrown 109.) Johan's looking like he can go 8 today. I think he'll eat more innings than Blanton will.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:02 PM

I wish Johan would get off the give back runs after we score strategy. I know it has been said before by others, but he does seem to do it quite a lot.

apmorris Jul 22 2008 07:05 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Johan's looking like he can go 8 today Let's hope - he can't give back any more runs tho.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:10 PM

Who put Sandy back at 3rd base? Jeezus

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:11 PM

Lead off double by Endy. The Mets really need to cash him in to get back the run the Phillies scored in the top of the inning.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:12 PM

Its like deja vu all over again. lol.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:13 PM

Wright follows with a single, but Endy is out at the plate. I like aggressive baserunning, but with no outs you have to be sure Endy can make it.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 07:13 PM

SSDI (same shit different inning)

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 07:17 PM

I think they prohibit weapons in the stadium just so fans won't shoot out that stupid Kevin James screaming montage when it comes up on the big screen

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:20 PM

We'll show them our Tatis!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:23 PM

Chase Utley, ultimate frisbee legend.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:23 PM

Rockin' Doc - "We'll show them our Tatis!!!" Apparently, Romero and the other Phillies weren't impressed.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 07:26 PM

Ran ourselves out of several runs tonight.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 07:29 PM

Does it not occur to fans on these foul pops that a ballplayer might be coming along any second now?

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 07:32 PM

Whew! The top of the 8th had the potential to turn fugly, but Howard popped up to end it. 5-2 going to the bottom of the 8th.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:32 PM

St. Anna showing a joie de vive we haven't seen a lot of tonight.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:35 PM

They said Wags was available for tonights game but its Sanchez up in the pen for the 9th.

Nymr83 Jul 22 2008 07:37 PM

8 strong innings for santana, and not a walk to be found, thats the kind of outing i want to see.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 07:40 PM

Werth, Feliz and Victorino between the Mets and first place. Go get 'em, Duaner!

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:41 PM

Nymr83 wrote: 8 strong innings for santana, and not a walk to be found, thats the kind of outing i want to see. I don't think he's walked a phreakin Phil all season.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:46 PM

Keith just name dropped Milt Thompson.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:47 PM

let's turn 3

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:49 PM

Sanchez got ripped off on that changeup to Werth, who follows with a single. That pitch was just below the letters right across the plate. And Dobbs smacks a pinch hit single. Werth slips rounding 2nd and will drop anchor there. And Victorino follows with a line single to load em up. Thats all for Sanchez.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:49 PM

Oh my, bases loaded and Bazooka Joe coming in for the save.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:53 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh my, bases loaded and Bazooka Joe coming in for the save. I gotta find a graphic for him. Remember the old Bazooka Joe penny bubble gum? Was that the name? Or was it that he was jut on the lil comics that came with the gum... These are the questions I have in the 9th as Smith goes to 3-1 on Ruiz.

Nymr83 Jul 22 2008 07:53 PM

fuckin reyes can't even step on the base????

metirish Jul 22 2008 07:54 PM

Terrible decision by Reyes.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 07:54 PM

Sanchez and Smith doing their best to make people appreciate Wagner.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 07:54 PM

Oh my....Reyes that was a mistake. Had to get an out there.

Nymr83 Jul 22 2008 07:55 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Sanchez and Smith doing their best to make people appreciate Wagner. smith came in and got a ground ball to the shortstop, theres 0 blame on him this inning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 07:56 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Sanchez and Smith doing their best to make people appreciate Wagner. They'll have to do more than that. Well, Sanchez sorta pissed me off. Tough call vs. Werth but he had Dobbs 0-2 and lost him then served it up to Victorino. Smith was pretty unlucky.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 07:56 PM

If this one gets away, I just might puke.

Fman99 Jul 22 2008 07:57 PM

This guy is so Taguchi he doesn't even know it.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 07:59 PM

C'mon Pedro, sit this guy down.

Fman99 Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

FUCK

Nymr83 Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

Taguchi hits it over Chavez's head and its tied, and still 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs. FUCK

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

Fuck this shit.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

metirish Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

WOW , stunning turn of events here.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

The Big O Jul 22 2008 08:00 PM

Phuck.

Nymr83 Jul 22 2008 08:01 PM

ruiz scores, taguchi scores, i'm done.

Fman99 Jul 22 2008 08:01 PM

I am disgusted.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:01 PM

Sure, why not? This is a fucking nightmare.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:02 PM

That f*****n Chavez base-running debacle from earlier -- no, make that two base running debacles -- came back, didn't they?

metirish Jul 22 2008 08:02 PM

All the good feeling is leaving Shea , anyone out yet?

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:02 PM

Santana has to be wondering what he has to do to earn a win. This is disgraceful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:02 PM

Maybe we can get Endy Chavez thrown out as the tying run in the bottom oif the inning.

holychicken Jul 22 2008 08:02 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: That f*****n Chavez base-running debacle from earlier -- no, make that two base running debacles -- came back, didn't they? Yeah, no shit. The first one was remotely excusable, the second was just plain stupid. I can't believe this shit.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:03 PM

O M G We were cruisin! We had this in our pocket!

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:03 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Maybe we can get Endy Chavez thrown out as the tying run in the bottom oif the inning. You assume there will be a bottom of the inning. You need to get people out to get to that.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 22 2008 08:04 PM

Feliciano hasn't been worth squat in a while. He was horrid in Cincy, too.

Fman99 Jul 22 2008 08:04 PM

UN FUCKING REAL

KC Jul 22 2008 08:04 PM

Jumpin Jehosafats, this sucks day old dead moose ass.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:04 PM

Jesus H. Christ! Did the bookies get to the Mets or something?

themetfairy Jul 22 2008 08:05 PM

Holy Crap - Feliciano can't even catch a simple ball!

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:05 PM

UGH! Feliciano drops a DP grounder! Another run in. 8-5 This is unphuckinbelievable.

Fman99 Jul 22 2008 08:05 PM

I'm punching out Maverick.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:06 PM

The Mets have a new strategy for this series. They appear to be trying to where the Phillies out running the bases in the ninth. They must be hoping the Phillies will be to tired to put up much of a fight in the remaining games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:06 PM

I hope Maverick isn't your wife.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:07 PM

It's deja vu all over again.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 22 2008 08:07 PM

Heilman has been just has horrible lately.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:08 PM

The Mets must think it's September.

bmfc1 Jul 22 2008 08:08 PM

With Wagner n/a, would it have been the worst thing to let Santana start the 9th?

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:08 PM

You gotta hand it to this team- they have no qualms about shitting the bed in front of everyone.

metirish Jul 22 2008 08:09 PM

This is the kind of game that could turn a season for the worse.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:11 PM

I am going to kill Derek Jeter and bury him in his Edge. This counts as a confession, but we all know it's really SNY's fault.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:11 PM

Maybe Chavez could redeem himself here.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:11 PM

bmfc1 - "With Wagner n/a, would it have been the worst thing to let Santana start the 9th?" Unless he said he couldn't go back out, I would say that the answer is obviously no. It would have been hard for Santana to have screwed up the ninth than his supposed relief help has.

metsmarathon Jul 22 2008 08:12 PM

seriously, 105 pitches, and your closer is unavailable. is it really that unheard of to think of santana at least attempting to pitch a complete game? jeez!

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 22 2008 08:13 PM

I would be shocked if the Mets got anyone on base in this half of the inning. If they're like me, it's everything just to keep their food down.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:12 PM

Any chance the Phillies would let our guys hit against our bullpen? We might have a chance that way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:13 PM

Eh, they'll get over this. Bad night for Sanchez, he doesn't have too many of those. Freaky bad play by Reyes. Feliciano's been shit all year, this just hastens his departure. Only victims are us fans.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:14 PM

There's no way this Lidge can continue to pitch at this unhittable pace. He's due for a real larrupin' right here.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:14 PM

3-1..take the walk Endy.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 22 2008 08:14 PM

Lidge sucks. Chavez walks.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:16 PM

Now all we need is Wright to get on so one of the Carlos's can blow the place up with a Kaboom.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 08:16 PM

metsmarathon wrote: seriously, 105 pitches, and your closer is unavailable. is it really that unheard of to think of santana at least attempting to pitch a complete game? jeez! No it wouldn't, although to be fair he was PH'd for with 2 runners on.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:16 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 22 2008 08:19 PM

Just think of [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pujCbuVbb7E&feature=related]this[/url], and watch Lidge give it back.

Elster88 Jul 22 2008 08:16 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Heilman has been just has horrible lately. Yeah it's Heilman's fault.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:16 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="metsmarathon"]seriously, 105 pitches, and your closer is unavailable. is it really that unheard of to think of santana at least attempting to pitch a complete game? jeez! No it wouldn't, although to be fair he was PH'd for with 2 runners on. No, 1 out and 0 on -- it was A Reyes in the 8th.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:18 PM

Dammit, Wright K's.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 22 2008 08:18 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="metsguyinmichigan"]Heilman has been just has horrible lately. Yeah it's Heilman's fault. I didn't say that.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:18 PM

So much for my dream. Wright strikes out. It shall fall to the two Carlos's.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 08:19 PM

I got my 7th & 8th innings reversed.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:20 PM

Get on for Delgado, Beltran.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:21 PM

Why wasn't Endy sent home there? Edit- on the wild pitch, that is.

KC Jul 22 2008 08:23 PM

Eeek, g'night.

metirish Jul 22 2008 08:24 PM

Tough loss , just got to get them tomorrow night.

holychicken Jul 22 2008 08:24 PM

I hat baseball.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:25 PM

Well, that sucked. Waht a demoralizing loss.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:25 PM

One of the worst games I've ever seen. Bad, bad, bad.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 22 2008 08:28 PM

Joe Smith for closer.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:29 PM

This is one of those few times I'd be booing the team. I echo JCL sentiments multiple times. (btw, I laughed so hard when I saw that post beer flew out my nose. And I think that laugh is what I needed to keep me sane thru that pathetic let down. So, ty 4 that JCL)

soupcan Jul 22 2008 08:30 PM

As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. So the Mets are one game out, big whoop. Its a 3 game set. They'll get 'em tomorrow.

Rockin' Doc Jul 22 2008 08:32 PM

Moral victories are nice, but I'd rather have the actual win in the standings.

soupcan Jul 22 2008 08:34 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Moral victories are nice, but I'd rather have the actual win in the standings. Of course. I'm just trying to be able to get to sleep tonight...

metirish Jul 22 2008 08:36 PM

Manuel - " it was suggested to me that I give Wagner the night off"".

bmfc1 Jul 22 2008 08:38 PM

Jerry said that he thought about letting Johan start the 9th but Burrell had the double.

Zvon Jul 22 2008 08:38 PM

soupcan wrote: As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. So the Mets are one game out, big whoop. Its a 3 game set. They'll get 'em tomorrow. Ill go with that. I needed that too, thnx. Those Endy plays--he was sent on those so he don't get the goat horns. Jose's blunder and Sanchez's outting gets the nod, one horn for each.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2008 08:43 PM

="soupcan"]As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. Except that they did a number of things wrong and that's something that kept happening last September too. They lost games then when they were the better team in addition to the ones they lost when they were outplayed. Last year they were the better team for 145 games and still blew it. This year they've NOY been the better team for virtually every one of the first 100 games. Poor baserunning, poor decisions, bad (timely) pitching and/or the inability to get the 3rd out are things bad (or at least not good) teams do.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 22 2008 08:46 PM

I gotta say, the July 4 loss did more to destroy my faith than this one did.

holychicken Jul 22 2008 08:48 PM

soupcan wrote: As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. So the Mets are one game out, big whoop. Its a 3 game set. They'll get 'em tomorrow. Your tranquility is scaring me. I hope this isn't some calm before the storm :)

Zvon Jul 22 2008 09:00 PM

I only got one pic for tonights fiasco....

Gwreck Jul 22 2008 09:38 PM

I can assure you it was at least 1,000 times worse with loudmouth Philly fans in our section. This one was far worse than the July 4 loss. --- Positive spin: We've still taken 7 of 11 from Philadelphia this year. We're only 1 game out of first. We can retake first with wins tomorrow and Thursday.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 23 2008 04:36 AM

Gwreck wrote: I can assure you it was at least 1,000 times worse with loudmouth Philly fans in our section. Ugh, my condolences. I almost had tickets to last night's game, and I don't know if I'd be able to handle Phillie Phans after watching a game like that. My goats, and their share of goat-milk: 1.) Sanchez- 4 2.) Feliciano- 3 3.) Aguayo- 2 4.) Reyes- 1 I had no problem with taking out Santana for the 9th. I had no problem giving the ball to Sanchez. Sanchez just shit the bed, and that was basically the ball game. It didn't help that Feliciano was also worthless last night, but I knew there was no way the Mets were gonna come out of a bases-loaded, no out jam without giving up the lead. Sanchez was the closer last night, and when your team is in a save situation, it's nearly impossible to right the ship if your closer implodes.

AG/DC Jul 23 2008 06:33 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 23 2008 07:11 AM

I think we need to put Duaner 2006 behind us. Right now, he's a major league reliever on guile alone. That's fine for what it is, but he's come back with almost none of the closer-quality nastiness that distinguished him then, and we're still trying to develop him back to the level where he can go up against another team's best in a tight spot in the late innings. Heck, yeah, I'd rather have had a tired Johan. (I say now.) Maybe next year Duaner gets a little more back. This year, he's Don Aase.

smg58 Jul 23 2008 07:07 AM

I was at Shea last night, possibly for the last time. It was great fun for eight innings. I thought keeping Santana in would have been the right move even if Wagner was available, and a no-brainer if he wasn't. I don't think Willie ever made a worse pitching decision. I don't even think Art Howe ever made a worse pitching decision. We haven't upgraded our third base coach, that's for sure. If you send somebody to the plate with no outs, he'd better make it. At least once out of two. And even if he gets thrown out, the play should at least be close. The second time was really bad, because Chavez was held at second on his double when he'd have reached third easily. I can understand playing shallow against So Taguchi, but Easley could have caught a fly ball hit to where Chavez was positioned. Taguchi hits a weak pop fly that wouldn't have even scored a run if Chavez was positioned anywhere close to normally, and instead it's a game-tying double. Joe Smith did nothing wrong and winds up the losing pitcher. Stats suck sometimes.

Centerfield Jul 23 2008 09:26 AM

The Mets made Stella cry.

themetfairy Jul 23 2008 11:04 AM

Centerfield wrote: The Mets made Stella cry. That's the final straw! I hat these guys.

Vic Sage Jul 23 2008 03:00 PM

PHUCK!